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Dark. YggiDee posted:2) Dragon Ball Z Kai (the final arc may or may not be translated by the time you get there, so you might have to switch back to the old non-Kai dubs for the very end) All of DBKai has been translated. The final episode actually aired in June, so it's not that long over with. It cut the show down from 291 episodes to 159, so it's a slightly easier prospect to get into. It's basically the definitive version of the show (for now, anyway), so unless you have any nostalgia for the filler, head straight for that. Oh, and just so no one misses it  THERE'S AN UPDATE ON THE END OF THE LAST PAGE
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Was it Baba's guardian mummy that (correctly) predicted that all Yamcha has to look forward to is pain and suffering?
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Sep 2, 2015 13:30
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dasmause posted:Was it Baba's guardian mummy that (correctly) predicted that all Yamcha has to look forward to is pain and suffering? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQtCpUh0XD4
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Sep 2, 2015 13:59
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Leavemywife posted:I don't know if we ever see Chi Chi in a wedding dress. A quick Google search didn't bring up anything, so I'm assuming that we never see her wear it.  Right on her DBZ wiki page http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Chi-Chi
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Sep 2, 2015 15:27
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Few different shots of it, actually. You think Google would have been more helpful there.
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Sep 2, 2015 15:34
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Leavemywife posted:Few different shots of it, actually. You think Google would have been more helpful there. There's a wedding dress designer called "ChiChi", so that would probably clog the results a bit. Appending "Dragonball" as a search term brings more relevant results.
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Sep 2, 2015 15:40
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Seeing as we saw Baba this update I feel the need to point out that one of her fighting champions is Count Dracula, who is a kick boxer. He gets his rear end kicked by Puar. (Also some native American Kid iirc) There was also an Invisible Man, who Yamcha (yeah) was able to beat after Krillin sprayed him with
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Sep 2, 2015 16:44
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Junpei Hyde posted:Seeing as we saw Baba this update I feel the need to point out that one of her fighting champions is Count Dracula, who is a kick boxer.
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Sep 2, 2015 16:52
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Oooooh boy you're here. So, this is another anime-only bit of content. Goku and Chi-chi's wedding is never seen in the manga, and any interactions before you see them again several years later are non-existent due to Toriyama's self-admitted inability and fear of writing romances. This entire plot thread exists to give Goku and Chi-chi's SOMETHING beyond "we married now" like what happened in the manga. And in all honesty, it ends up rather sweet in the end. The game glosses over quite a bit of what happens and jumps right to the end of it all, sadly, but it makes a bit of sense from that perspective. At the same time, there is a long, multi-episode quest Goku and Chi-chi go through to find the Bansho Fan, taking them to places like: Oolong's home village, filled with pig people just like him; an encounter with Pilaf and goons again while trying to save a fire-eating giant bird; a mountain that throws hissy hits about women for no clearly discernible reason (basically, "Mt. MRA"); and finally leading up to what happened in the update here. All of this exists to give Goku and Chi-chi some time to actually interact as, well, a couple, and it honestly works quite well. You see their personalities mesh fairly well, and it ends up feeling less abrupt overall. It also serves as a nice little ending adventure to "Dragon Ball" proper.
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Sep 2, 2015 17:42
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Leavemywife posted:This is yet another character based on someone from the Journey To The West, where Dragon Ball got a lot of its inspiration from. I'm not going to go into that, because, seriously, that's a lot of stuff to talk about. I think the fan might be too. But yeah... that's a lot of poo poo to shift through. If you forget about Sun Goku, Nimbus, the Pole, and every other reference, you can tell Journey to the West was the basis on Dragon Ball because it is full of loving padding. Try reading that, and you'll look back fondly on DBZ's padding of two guys hovering and screaming and powering up for a couple episodes.
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Sep 2, 2015 18:50
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YggiDee posted:Things to watch. This is a good list, but I feel the need to add a couple more things: 1) The History of Trunks special. Kai actually skips it despite being canon, which is terrible because that's actually really good and important for Trunks' characterization. 2) Yo! Son Goku and his Friends Return. An OVA, sadly not dubbed. It is canon (as a character that only appears in it is mentioned in BoG). Not particularly important, but fun and worth the watch. 3) Bardock: The Father of Goku. Kai uses some of its scenes in its first episode, but it's still worth a full watch. It should be noted, though, that Toriyama retconned it out of existance with Dragon Ball Minus. 4) Despite the previous point, do NOT watch Episode of Bardock. It makes no sense and it is terrible. Just know that Bardock's a fan favourite so he gets every Super Saiyan form ever and the original needed a special to its own for some reason. A bad special. Leavemywife posted:
It should be noted that this is canonically how Goku's family survives despite none of them ever attempting to have a job. And, by Super, Ox-King is absolutely broke thanks to it. "The greatest son-in-law a king could ever hope for" indeed...
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Sep 2, 2015 19:08
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Well it's because every time Goku wins the loving world martial arts tournament he gives away the money or the arena gets destroyed or something. They finally fix it in Super when Mr. Satan gives Goku all the prize money from the most recent tournament because he saved the world. And he had to convince Goku to take it because he was like "uhhh I dunno about that..." No wonder Chi Chi is pissed off all the time. But you can't really blame Goku, he barely understands what money is.
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Sep 2, 2015 19:17
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He won the last tournament in Dragonball, which probably funded about one or two meals.
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Sep 2, 2015 19:21
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FeyerbrandX posted:I think the fan might be too. If I have to read one more in-depth explanation of everything that just happened or see Sanzang kick Monkey out despite him being right about demons in disguise like five times now...
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Sep 2, 2015 19:38
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StrifeHira posted:Oooooh boy you're here. So, this is another anime-only bit of content. Goku and Chi-chi's wedding is never seen in the manga, and any interactions before you see them again several years later are non-existent due to Toriyama's self-admitted inability and fear of writing romances. It really does oddly works as a (presumably) unintended sendoff to the 'Dragonball' half of the series in terms of style and tone. After two story arcs (or arguably one really long one) about the Demon King Piccolo and trying to save the world from him in what would ultimately become the hallmark of the series thereafter, you get a story that's more about Goku exploring Dragonball's Earth, and helping one of his friends through a more personal predicament. Its filler, sure, but its the kind of filler that ultimately works to the story's benefit, rather than just padding out airtime because oh god Toriyama hasn't written the next chapter yet. Actually thinking about it, I think this is technically adult Goku's only traditional 'Dragonball' adventure, due to the skip to Z.
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Sep 2, 2015 21:22
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"Chi-Chi (乳) is a term for "milk" or "udder" in Japanese" Chi-Chi is a cow. What. Then again, probably shouldn't say that, or she'd castrate me with a rusty knife.
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Sep 2, 2015 22:31
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I think king Yemma is quite a bit taller than the Ox-King. 
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Sep 2, 2015 23:23
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Just got in here. Those are really some very pretty and functional small sprites for the characters. A+.
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Sep 3, 2015 01:23
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Silegna posted:"Chi-Chi (乳) is a term for "milk" or "udder" in Japanese" Well, her dad's the Ox King. Not really sure she'd take exception.
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Sep 3, 2015 01:49
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Didn't Chi-Chi only ask Goku to marry her because he patted her crotch to make sure she was a girl? That was his official test for the first few arcs of Dragonball.
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Nidoking posted:Didn't Chi-Chi only ask Goku to marry her because he patted her crotch to make sure she was a girl? That was his official test for the first few arcs of Dragonball. I think it was because the Ox King didn't intimidate him, and was bold enough to even attempt that. Then again, how the HELL can Chi-Chi ride the Nimbus when she dressed like...well, a DQ3 Female Warrior.
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Sep 3, 2015 03:09
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Nidoking posted:Didn't Chi-Chi only ask Goku to marry her because he patted her crotch to make sure she was a girl? That was his official test for the first few arcs of Dragonball. Yeah kinda, Chi-chi is a very sheltered child. Speaking of Chi-chi, I think this is kinda of interesting regarding her as a character. Combat Lobster fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Sep 3, 2015 |
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Sep 3, 2015 03:12
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Combat Lobster posted:Yeah kinda, Chi-chi is a very sheltered child. This was a pretty neat character examination. I might go a step further and say that thematically speaking she's also a vehicle for the readers/viewers in a sense. Like the reader, she cares about Goku and Gohan, and second-guesses their sometimes boneheaded ideas in the same way we might. Same with Bulma saying why not kill Dr. Gero instead of fighting the Androids, they're characters who can have more rational ideas that help to explain why the other characters act irrationally at times or why the plot goes against certain frames of logic.
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Sep 3, 2015 05:14
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Combat Lobster posted:Yeah kinda, Chi-chi is a very sheltered child. I always thought of it as. She grew up with basically no education and knows it, she knows goku has no education either and while he can punch through a mountain he can't hold a job. She wants better for gohan. Also Goku married into money (the ox kings money.) And gohan married into money (hercules money.)
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Sep 3, 2015 05:26
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Hey, everyone, you should all give a big "thank you" to Niggurath; he helped me refine my video process to make the boss fight videos look better! He took time out of his busy schedule to teach my dumbass how this all works. So, please, everybody, thank him, and if you meet him, give him a high five and buy him a beer.
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Sep 3, 2015 05:55
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Silegna posted:I think it was because the Ox King didn't intimidate him, and was bold enough to even attempt that. Then again, how the HELL can Chi-Chi ride the Nimbus when she dressed like...well, a DQ3 Female Warrior. Because how you dress doesn't reflect on how you ARE. Krillin and Roshi can't ride it because they're perverts, same as Bulma, but Chi-Chi never has thoughts like that, neither does Goku, the two of them are pure of mind and heart. Goku is a violent SoB who really only cares about fighting, but his reasons for fighting are pure (for the sake of fighting) Though note, the reason Goku married Chi-Chi out of universe? Toriyama really didn't like drawing her but didn't want to just drop her so "If I marry her to Goku I have to draw her."
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Onmi posted:Because how you dress doesn't reflect on how you ARE. Krillin and Roshi can't ride it because they're perverts, same as Bulma, but Chi-Chi never has thoughts like that, neither does Goku, the two of them are pure of mind and heart. Goku is a violent SoB who really only cares about fighting, but his reasons for fighting are pure (for the sake of fighting) Uh, are you sure that's right? He didn't like drawing her so he made her an important side character so he'd have to keep drawing her?
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Sep 3, 2015 06:48
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RareAcumen posted:Uh, are you sure that's right? He didn't like drawing her so he made her an important side character so he'd have to keep drawing her? I know it sounds weird, but yes. http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/son-goku-densetsu-toriyama-x-nakatsuru/ Who do you prefer: Bulma or Chi-Chi? Toriyama: To be honest, I’m really not fond of Chi-Chi as a character. (laughs) In the middle of the comic, I started to think, “I don’t want to draw her anymore,” and, sort of as a way of spiting myself, I decided, “you’ll have to draw her if she gets married to Goku, so marry them off!” So, I drew her as a kind of punishment. (laughs) Nakatsuru: So that was your reason behind it! (laughs) Toriyama: The women I draw all have the same sort of personality. I can’t draw gentle girls; I only know how to draw ones who are strong-willed.
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Onmi posted:Because how you dress doesn't reflect on how you ARE. Krillin and Roshi can't ride it because they're perverts, same as Bulma, but Chi-Chi never has thoughts like that, neither does Goku, the two of them are pure of mind and heart. Goku is a violent SoB who really only cares about fighting, but his reasons for fighting are pure (for the sake of fighting) ...Can Vegeta ride the nimbus?
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Sep 3, 2015 14:15
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BattleCattle posted:...Can Vegeta ride the nimbus? Probably not, but maybe. Vegeta did a lot of evil in the past, it's the same reason when he died he didn't get to keep his body, I think to be 'pure' you must never have been 'tainted' Goten can also ride the Nimbus, so it's a characteristic of the Son family to just have that humble existence. Keep in mind that Upa, Launch in her 'good' personality, Uub and an unnamed mermaid and muscular woman could all ride the Nimbus. Bulma couldn't, Trunks could (In the opening of a video game), Krillin couldn't, Master Roshi couldn't. I think the main difference between Goku and Vegeta would be Pride. EDIT: In the manga and japanese dub, Roshi intended to give Goku the Immortal Phoenix who bestows Immortality to Goku before being informed that, ironically, it had died due to eating tainted bird seed. So instead he gave him the Nimbus. This was for finding and bringing back his Turtle for the record. Roshi has ENDLESSLY COOL loving poo poo just lying about. Onmi fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Sep 3, 2015 |
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Sep 3, 2015 14:45
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Roshi is an enormous badass, but a lot of that is overlooked because he's old and loves porn to a degree even that industry would find unhealthy.
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Sep 3, 2015 15:39
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Roshi is like one of those retired JRPG heroes where he borrowed all this mystical poo poo for a quest once and forgot to give it back. Also he takes lousy care of it, if he managed to get a frickin' Phoenix killed. Being alive is their only job. Also the Bansho fan - potholder thing.
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Onmi posted:EDIT: In the manga and japanese dub, Roshi intended to give Goku the Immortal Phoenix who bestows Immortality to Goku before being informed that, ironically, it had died due to eating tainted bird seed. So instead he gave him the Nimbus. This was for finding and bringing back his Turtle for the record. ...I really need to read the manga.
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BattleCattle posted:...Can Vegeta ride the nimbus? Vegeta is just as pure as Goku, but in a different way. BattleCattle posted:...I really need to read the manga.
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Sep 3, 2015 17:50
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The real question is if (DBZA) Nappa could fly on Nimbus.
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Sep 3, 2015 18:22
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Vegeta's pure. A pure piece of poo poo.
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Sep 3, 2015 18:24
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Waffleman_ posted:Vegeta's pure. 
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quote:Vegeta had a calm, pure (evil) heart awoken by the anger of playing second fiddle to a cretin. I wouldn't say 'calm'. His rage broke over. At the verge of his death in space, he blew his top so far that he flipped over from his normal raging to ice-cold. His own words: "I didn't care about Kakarot. I didn't care about being the best." ...Yet again, when he lets go of his pride and anger, he gets better. Unless the training in space bit was made up, of course. I wouldn't know. I think it's...important to think about that. Super Saiyan is effectively Berserk. Rage beyond anything, enough rage to force you to let go of all reason-and break out the other side. Bloodly fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Sep 3, 2015 |
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Sep 3, 2015 18:38
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I hope this LP brings Yamcha up to his canonical power level of being equal to Cell. Or at the very least his canonical power level of being equal to first form Frieza.
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Bloodly posted:I wouldn't say 'calm'. His rage broke over. At the verge of his death in space, he blew his top so far that he flipped over from his normal raging to ice-cold. His own words: "I didn't care about Kakarot. I didn't care about being the best." Where else would he have taken the space ship he stole from Dr. Briefs?
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