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Also I love playing in and modding very role heavy games. I love the puzzle of it. Maybe that's a different game than mafia, but it is fun times. Coming up with roles for role heavy games isn't about "lol this would be so crazy!" but rather thinking of something fun and cool and then what could be used to counteract it on the other team. I find it very funny that Ecco is the one calling for restraint because it's only ever in Eccogames that I find myself completely at a loss for how to play and how to interpret things because I can't rely on the setup to be normal. I never feel the mod more than in an Eccogame, and I always got the impression that's exactly what she wants?
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Asiina posted:Also I love playing in and modding very role heavy games. I love the puzzle of it. Maybe that's a different game than mafia, but it is fun times.
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It sucks to be scum in a game that is completely solvable by night actions
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JakeP posted:It sucks to be scum in a game that is completely solvable by night actions Nah, then you just lie and screw with people. Or tell the truth and somehow it works out, I did that in one of the recent role madness games
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Opopanax posted:Nah, then you just lie and screw with people. Or tell the truth and somehow it works out, I did that in one of the recent role madness games I really hate being scum, and legit feel bad lying in mafia games
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Sep 3, 2015 18:07
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I love being scum. Weasling out of certain death is the best feeling.
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Sep 3, 2015 18:08
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i feel guilty to those that I have tricked knowing they will soon feel shame in being wrong
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Sep 3, 2015 18:09
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I like being a SK because I get to laugh at the sky and control the narrative in a way the scum don't anticipate.
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Sep 3, 2015 18:10
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merk posted:I love being scum. Weasling out of certain death is the best feeling. I prefer dominations. CYOR big game flawless scum victory 
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Sep 3, 2015 18:18
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Lumpen posted:The game of Mafia is a finely crafted mechanism. It is like Chess, in that amazing subtlety arises from apparent simplicity. Chess is not better if pawns are replaced by "Laser Ninjas" with new convoluted abilities. Sorry about your case of terminal Bad Opinions. Also chess is never good, much like mafia.
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Sep 3, 2015 18:21
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JakeP posted:i feel guilty to those that I have tricked knowing they will soon feel shame in being wrong I feel you, and I am glad that you feel intense empathy like me. It's not debilitating or anything, it still feels good to win, but mafia is not a game of trust for sure. GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:I like being a SK because I get to laugh at the sky and control the narrative in a way the scum don't anticipate. The Scum Must Die!!
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Sep 3, 2015 18:24
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I fall for Jake's lies every time.
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Sep 3, 2015 18:29
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Allen Wren posted:Sorry about your case of terminal Bad Opinions. I'll fight you.
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Sep 3, 2015 18:30
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We're keeping the fantasy movie league going for the fall season ye?
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Sep 3, 2015 18:33
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CCKeane posted:I'll fight you. That would be more interesting than chess or mafia.
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Sep 3, 2015 18:34
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CCKeane posted:I'll fight you. He's not wrong though.
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Sep 3, 2015 18:38
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Little Mac posted:Rarity, pardon me if I'm confusing you with someone else, but didn't you used to dance for a living? Nope, that was me that did the nudie dancing. Lives change 
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Asiina posted:I find it very funny that Ecco is the one calling for restraint because it's only ever in Eccogames that I find myself completely at a loss for how to play and how to interpret things because I can't rely on the setup to be normal. I never feel the mod more than in an Eccogame, and I always got the impression that's exactly what she wants? "feeling the mod" isn't a bad thing (except to libertarians). part of why I make my setups "different" (I would use) is to keep people on their toes and learn to discount role information, focusing on how people play. I make stuff that's deliberately misleading because I want people to give me the finger and not be mislead. The opposite of "role madness" isn't "simplistic; boring". I like to think most of my games strike a good balance between being different and experimental while still keeping to fundamental mafia principles. merk posted:Is someone going to take the lead on creating that Google Doc? We will start sending invitation PMs once Ecco's setup is ready.
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Maybe we should have more open setup games. Met ran some Palace games a few months ago and I really enjoyed them! I should do that since I like modding games more than writing setups.
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Sep 3, 2015 19:08
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I like open setups, and F11 style setups where there are 3 potential open setups for the game
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Sep 3, 2015 19:13
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BottleKnight posted:In my first couple town games I was trying really hard to be funny and honest and was called out as scummy constantly for it. Now I'm super self conscious and reserved as a mafia player regardless of alignment and I am called scum significantly less and yet somehow also am less helpful to town, I think. It's definitely a very weird phenomenon. It is definitely possible to be active and forceful and aggressive while still keeping yourself away from being lynched and there are players here who are very good at it. You just need a certain self-awareness in what you're saying and a lack of fear over being called scummy.
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merk posted:I love being scum. Weasling out of certain death is the best feeling. There's nothing more fun than pulling off flawless or solo scum victories.
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EccoRaven posted:"feeling the mod" isn't a bad thing (except to libertarians). part of why I make my setups "different" (I would use) is to keep people on their toes and learn to discount role information, focusing on how people play. I make stuff that's deliberately misleading because I want people to give me the finger and not be mislead. Roles aren't meant to fit together like a puzzle or solve the game, fmpov. They are supposed to give you opportunities to find those moments where players reveal their true intentions. If you balance them in a way that encourages discussion without drowning the game with noise they are doing their job and making the game more interesting. For town, managing the signal to noise ratio is a key part of winning I think, and so in a ~role madness~ game I feel like you have a lot less control. Jasmine-type players tune out or fall in a pit of conspiracy. It's like mafia yoga or something, you have to clear your mind of the role noise... look inward to see a player's true intent. NAMASTE.
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Sep 3, 2015 19:18
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Hello thread. Im getting on a plane to singapore in one hour.
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uranus posted:Hello thread. Im getting on a plane to singapore in one hour. I've always wanted to go there and really experience eastern capitalism, make sure to make a nice post about it with cool pix!!!
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come sign up for bottleknight's game http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3739747 unless you are dumber than a dumb dumb deer
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Dhaes posted:dumber than a dumb dumb deer yuming is not dumber than a dumb dumb deer
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Dhaes posted:come sign up for bottleknight's game
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Sep 3, 2015 20:25
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If only I was confident I could juggle 5 games.
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Kashuno posted:If only I was confident I could juggle 5 games. are you confident you can juggle 4? I can't even juggle 3 things irl.
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BottleKnight posted:are you confident you can juggle 4? I can't even juggle 3 things irl. I didn't realize I signed up for four games until it was too late and they all started the same day so I don't have much choice now
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I agree with lumpen by which I mean that I think open and semi open setups are way more fun not that I think you should be able to pay to murder people.
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Dhaes posted:yuming is not dumber than a dumb dumb deer
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I love very simple set ups with one thing skewed off from the regular actually. I really liked running ballot box even though it wasn't balanced. Things like WIFOAs and Temple games are also fun in that they are fairly vanilla and thus their key and important differences stand out more.
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Vanilla games make me want to emulate that wu affiliate who chopped off his dick and jumped off a building
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Tremendous Taste posted:Vanilla games make me want to emulate that wu affiliate who chopped off his dick and jumped off a building 
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yuming posted:Only sometimes. I think I maybe too busy to play :| I will think about it. Yuming is a game with both Dhaes and myself! That should sell it for everybody!
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CCKeane posted:Yuming is a game with both Dhaes and myself! Hmm.
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Not to pressure you yuming but if you give me some feedback on what deadline times and such would work best for you I will implement them!
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don't forget to make your FML picks guys, Autumn season starts this weekend
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