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Azran posted:I will be so mad if we get boats before italians. But that way they could immediately include the Regina Marina once the Italians are out.
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So are the new BR ratings already implemented but not showing up on my client yet or is the matchmaking in AB really hosed? I played a few rounds of ground forces AB with a buddy who doesn't enjoy RB and with a max 6.7 loadout I've been seeing IS-4M, T-10M, M60 and the occasional Maus every other round. I assumed with that many more players in AB the MM spread would be less and not more.
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Sep 13, 2015 09:45
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Nuramor posted:But that way they could immediately include the Regina Marina once the Italians are out. I mean, there's no way they aren't adding Italians because they seem to be pretty popular, had a really good navy and it's the only other fully-fledged Axis power that can compete against Allies by itself in at least two game modes (naval and air). That said, I wonder what they'll do with Japanese and Italian tanks.
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Feindfeuer posted:So are the new BR ratings already implemented but not showing up on my client yet or is the matchmaking in AB really hosed? I played a few rounds of ground forces AB with a buddy who doesn't enjoy RB and with a max 6.7 loadout I've been seeing IS-4M, T-10M, M60 and the occasional Maus every other round. I assumed with that many more players in AB the MM spread would be less and not more. Are you sure you don't have a Kugelblitz slotted? It's 7.0 in arcade.
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Sep 13, 2015 10:16
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Preechr posted:Are you sure you don't have a Kugelblitz slotted? It's 7.0 in arcade. That's it, I still have the tech-tree set to RB where it's 6.7. I'm an idiot.
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Sep 13, 2015 10:21
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Azran posted:I mean, there's no way they aren't adding Italians because they seem to be pretty popular, had a really good navy and it's the only other fully-fledged Axis power that can compete against Allies by itself in at least two game modes (naval and air). That said, I wonder what they'll do with Japanese and Italian tanks. Probably as a few premiums.
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Sep 13, 2015 10:36
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There doesn't seem to be any point in flying anything German that isn't a single seat fighter - is there anything worthwhile up the bomber and attacker trees, or should I stop bothering with them altogether?
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Sep 13, 2015 11:02
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The BF110, the Me 410 B6/R6 and maybe one of the earliest Do 217, the one with 4 20mms. As an aside, the B17 is so goddamn useless for CARB. Even the slightest movement at 300 IAS will break its wings.
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Sep 13, 2015 11:13
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lenoon posted:There doesn't seem to be any point in flying anything German that isn't a single seat fighter - is there anything worthwhile up the bomber and attacker trees, or should I stop bothering with them altogether? I have a similar question about the Russian bombers, I've loved the IL-2 line but the IL-4 and others along the bomber line seem really underwhelming.
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By the midgame I generally can't use 20mm cannons on planes for ground attack any more, it's usually 37mm or bust at that point. EDIT: Or a bigger caliber like the 45 or  75mm
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Sep 13, 2015 12:42
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Wild Horses posted:So the n1kJ seems like a powerhouse. Anything special you need to keep out for when flying it or is it just zero +1 Japan in general owns with even the Zeroes that are great despite being so highly specialized. The N1K plays almost like an endgame Yak should feel like but with a poo poo-ton more ammo and is still actually extremely competitive against pretty much anything it comes up against. lenoon posted:There doesn't seem to be any point in flying anything German that isn't a single seat fighter - is there anything worthwhile up the bomber and attacker trees, or should I stop bothering with them altogether? Yeah, Germany is basically all about the 109/190. The other planes are pretty great in SB though where stuff like the 410 can pull crazy snaproll spins and instantly regain control and slower, less agile BnZ isn't a problem because most people can't see behind them. But really you can even fly a Kingfisher in SB and do alright so it isn't just Germany. The 110 is good but you pretty much get it automatically and the 217s are more for experienced players that don't play alone. The bombers are all pretty bland in terms of performance but help keep things interesting in a game that mostly has allied players bothering with ground attack. Stukas are a favorite among really good players that want to play hardmode but like the Il-2 they can be frustrating if you don't know what you're doing. In arcade the other planes do well because of raw firepower but again these likely won't be your first choice if all you care about is winning and want to minimize your chances of dying. USA is the best nation for twin engine fighters with the F7F and P-38 while Japan has the fun ones that get huge gently caress-off cannons. But a 262 is basically a flying shotgun in AB jet tier. Thief fucked around with this message at 13:26 on Sep 13, 2015 |
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Azran posted:I mean, there's no way they aren't adding Italians because they seem to be pretty popular, had a really good navy and it's the only other fully-fledged Axis power that can compete against Allies by itself in at least two game modes (naval and air). That said, I wonder what they'll do with Japanese and Italian tanks. Italians and Japanese, if the T25 and Panther II are a precedent, are totally doable. Italy's only real problem is T5 where they've mostly got German/American stuff, Japan has basically gotten the all clear now that 70s equipment is a-okay.
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lenoon posted:There doesn't seem to be any point in flying anything German that isn't a single seat fighter - is there anything worthwhile up the bomber and attacker trees, or should I stop bothering with them altogether? In any case, you want to go down the German heavy fighter line if only for the Ho-229 at the end. Aesaar fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Sep 13, 2015 |
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Sep 13, 2015 15:32
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Man, the hellcat is the best light tank in the game, which is kind of ironic since the actual tier III US light tank is poo poo. Also goddamn I hate the NPC tanks in this game. Woo shot seven idiots, bet that's going to be great! Wait, no, those were all NPCs and your contribution means nothing, woo. EDIT: From playing the Tiger I'm considering that the IS-2 might not be bad, I might just be bad at playing heavies. I can get a couple of kills in them but their lack of manoeuvrability inevitably means that they get out-flanked whenever there's a change in push direction. I feel like they'd need teamwork to work, at least. spectralent fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Sep 13, 2015 |
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Sep 13, 2015 16:25
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Did I make a poor life decision by playing low tier American tanks? A T34 or Stug looks at me the wrong way I'm blown to bits, meanwhile I'm putting shell after shell into the drat things and they just laugh at me strong in their mountains. These are penetrating shots mind you, not ricochets.
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Dr. Tough posted:Did I make a poor life decision by playing low tier American tanks? A T34 or Stug looks at me the wrong way I'm blown to bits, meanwhile I'm putting shell after shell into the drat things and they just laugh at me strong in their mountains. These are penetrating shots mind you, not ricochets. A: T-34 is a known issue and will be fixed soon. B: Low-tier americans suffer from only having AP to begin with, so penetrations usually don't knock out a vehicle and with bad aim will do jack all. The T-34 thing I can't help with but for StuGs, you want to shoot them in the "mailbox" on the front right (facing you) where the slit is. EDIT: Diagram for where this is and why: You aim here  Because the inside looks like this  And this will happen  Depending on how good/lucky you are you'll hit 2-3 crewmen, maybe kill the engine, and have a small chance of loving up the gun traverse. Two of these crew will be the gunner and driver, too. spectralent fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Sep 13, 2015 |
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Wild Horses posted:So the n1kJ seems like a powerhouse. Anything special you need to keep out for when flying it or is it just zero +1 I'd call it more of a Ki-61 +3 than a Zero +1. It does turn well but the straight line speed and climb are more Ki-61 than A6M* in terms of comparing favorably to stuff at its tier, and with four of those anemic Japanese 20mms you can (barely) reliably kill things in brief BNZ windows. Not that it's bad at energy fighting or turning, either. Really the only downside to good old George I've found is that like all Japanese planes it bursts into flames if so much as an unkind word is said against it and then burns to a crisp immediately with no chance of suppression. EDIT: Also the rockets the N1Ks get are comically useless.
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spectralent posted:A: T-34 is a known issue and will be fixed soon. B: Low-tier americans suffer from only having AP to begin with, so penetrations usually don't knock out a vehicle and with bad aim will do jack all. I'll give it a shot
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ArchRanger posted:I have a similar question about the Russian bombers, I've loved the IL-2 line but the IL-4 and others along the bomber line seem really underwhelming. https://youtu.be/D_dKbW7I1G0 Unless it's been balanced since then the IL-4 is good fun.
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chairface posted:EDIT: Also the rockets the N1Ks get are comically useless. Incorrect! Also yeah the Il-4 is so good, it's hard to believe the FM is correct but no one calls it a UFO so  e: If anyone was wondering about how long shells last once fired, someone chased a 122 mm with their MiG: http://gfycat.com/ThoughtfulDearFantail Sard fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Sep 13, 2015 |
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I would compare the IL-4 to a Stuka but with a bit better energy retention in turns which I'll attribute to it having two engines and basically 0 armor. (once you've dropped your enormous external bombs, of course.) The dorsal turret has a 360° field of fire and even can shoot targets your nose gunner is engaging.
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Airburst rockets are really OP if you know how to range them though I don't remember if the Japanese ones have that option and it wouldn't surprise me if you have to rely on direct hits. The N1K rockets are probably the worst air to ground in the game, even worse than bazookas which are somehow easier to aim. The Japanese rockets shoot at a weird arc that is greatly affected by distance to target and probably also convergence settings. It's been over a year so I dunno but back in the day we spent like literally hours trying to kill stuff with those rockets and even hitting your target at all was enough to cause celebration.
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Dr. Tough posted:I'll give it a shot Americans really don't come into their own in ground forces until you get access to the M3 / M4 in the medium tank line or the M10 (maybe that guntruck but I think its stupid) in the tank destroyer line. Prior to that you're slinging solid shot 37mm and driving motorized cardboard boxes which usually can be one-shotted by anything using ammunition more explosive than a bag of Pop Rocks, which accurately describes just about every non-American tank you'll meet. I guess their AA trucks are okay and their baby tanks are fun to Mario Kart around the map in but in terms of actual killing power or survivability they're absolute trash.
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Coming back after 4 months of not playing has been painful... That said, it's time to get working on the Leo 1. Was thinking about getting a T4 premium, but none tickled my fancy, so i Talismaned(ed?) the Tiger II H and started playing Realistic Battles. Definitely liking the no-markings in RB now. Still not entirely sold on the points system thing, but it at least allows me to possibly take out multiple tanks in one game, if i don't suck it up hardcore. Regarding the Leo 1, how is it? Flanking is what i love to do, so it might fit well. How is Germany at Rank 5 now?
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If you like RB's no-marker thing you might like sim. I found Tiger a struggle in RB but it's a beast in sim.
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spectralent posted:If you like RB's no-marker thing you might like sim. I found Tiger a struggle in RB but it's a beast in sim. SB has been what i've been playing exclusively before the 4 months leave. It's probably my favorite one and i totally agree, the Tiger (especially the 1 for me) is much better there, than in RB. That said, i sucked so unbelievably bad coming back that i had to maximize my RP income another way, so i switched to RB  Added to that is the fact that i'm a bit salty about the whole "SB Tanks only in Events" malarkey... 
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Sard posted:e: If anyone was wondering about how long shells last once fired, someone chased a 122 mm with their MiG: 
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Countdown until we see a gif of some tryhard Russians using 122's as indirect fire support with a plane spotting.
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Sep 14, 2015 00:58
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Got a 75% off the Pzbfw VI, so of course I grabbed it. My quest to acquire all tier-IV super-mediums* is a go. *(In keeping with all other german tanks of the tier the medium is a heavy)
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Stanley Goodspeed posted:Americans really don't come into their own in ground forces until you get access to the M3 / M4 in the medium tank line or the M10 (maybe that guntruck but I think its stupid) in the tank destroyer line. Prior to that you're slinging solid shot 37mm and driving motorized cardboard boxes which usually can be one-shotted by anything using ammunition more explosive than a bag of Pop Rocks, which accurately describes just about every non-American tank you'll meet. Eh, the M3 Lee/M1 Grant are pretty good once you learn how to use them, switching between both the 37mm and 75mm to put out a rapid stream of slugs and APHE. But yeah, American vehicles are best used in AB until you start getting Shermans. That way you can have the most fun doing donuts around everyone.
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Remember a few patches ago when the ground collision detection was hosed and going down any incline could kill half your crew and set your transmission on fire? The Panzer IV/70 is like that but all the time.
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spectralent posted:Remember a few patches ago when the ground collision detection was hosed and going down any incline could kill half your crew and set your transmission on fire? The Panzer IV/70 is like that but all the time. The Leo 1 was absolutely horrible for finding some invisible rock and then getting hung up on it until an enemy put you out of your misery.
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spectralent posted:Remember a few patches ago when the ground collision detection was hosed and going down any incline could kill half your crew and set your transmission on fire? The Panzer IV/70 is like that but all the time. One of my favorite rounds of Mozdak I crossed the river three times in a life. First pass broke my left tread. Second pass broke the right tread. Third pass I slowed down and made sure to hit the river nice and straight and broke BOTH treads.
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Hurtgen forest was fun. I made it across open ground slowly and by the time I'd gotten to the end I'd lost two crew and was on red transmission 
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spectralent posted:Hurtgen forest was fun. I made it across open ground slowly and by the time I'd gotten to the end I'd lost two crew and was on red transmission Normal wear and tear on a tank 
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PenguinScotty posted:Normal wear and tear on a tank Assault gun  Think I'm going to have to give up on the event; it's late and internet outages haven't been kind. I have a fuckton of spare vehicles for the USSR though, for some goddamn reason.
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Stuarts are very fun and can bully the poo poo out of germans just by driving in circles. * They eat poo poo the instant a T-50 appears. * Except Stugs AirborneNinja fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Sep 14, 2015 |
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