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Sushi in Yiddish
Feb 2, 2008

Ragequit posted:

It's like the power up battles in DBZ that last across 5 episodes. Instead of gold super hair it's gold earrings and instead of yelling it's word salad. Derek is Gohan and Chris is Cell, but Chris is sucking up donations instead of townfolk. Derek tries to end it with a Kamehameha of 10,000 word blog posts, but will this be enough to defeat Chris? TUNE IN NEXT TIME ON DRAGON BALL Z.

I hope this is an analogy you can relate to.
Who is Mr. Satan in this analogy?

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The Marauder
Dec 1, 2013

Why walk out when you can outrun?
Why are there so many posts here about so little?

3
Aug 26, 2006

The Magic Number


College Slice
hi derek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88WL5MX1Co8
MP3 Here

code:
the legend lives on from the forums on down
of the game dev who made wing commander
the man they all say never quite found a way
to respond to the lies and the slander

from his backers he scored eighty-six million bucks more
though the promises made were quite empty
that company and crew was a bone to be chewed
when the blogs of october came early

the game was the pride of all nerdlings worldwide
spending all of their cash for no reason
as the kickstarters go it was bigger than most
with rewards and good stretch goals well seasoned

concluding some sales with a coupla' space whales
while their deadlines were still disappearing
come three years later when their twitter feeds rang
could it be derek smart they'd been fearing?

the forums online made a tattle-tale whine
with the subreddit frantically wailing
and every man knew as the chairman did too
t'was the goons of october come stealin'

the sale came late and the videos had to wait
though the hit in morale was a small one
when the article came it was more of the same
in the face of a million refunds

when suppertime came all the mods came on deck sayin'
fellas, we'll just have to ban ya
at seven p.m. the last blog post came in, they said
fellas, it's been good to know ya

the chairman wrote in he had committed no sin
toward the broken, the poor, and the hateful
and later that night on his battered website
went the wrecks of star citizen's faithful

does anyone know where the love of god goes
when you browse those forums for hours?
the faithful still say we'll see gameplay next may
if you just spend a thousand more dollars

it might be online and it might be single player
it might even see a release soon
but all that we see is the hopes and the dreams
of the redditors, furries and spacegoons

freelancer's good, wing commander's alright
and the x series keeps on surviving
old freespace seems like a young nerd's dreams
elite and the rest keep on flying

and year after year it just keeps getting clearer
that a space game's just planning for failure
when star citizen goes just like everyone knows
will the goons of october remember?

in a dusty old thread on the forums they watched
the collapse of the faithful on reddit
and as denial began, they stood tall to a man
or at least five in the case of ben lesnick

the legend lives on from the forums on down
of the game dev who made wing commander
chris roberts they say always could find a way
to turn failure to more propaganda 

EminusSleepus
Sep 28, 2015

the forbes author is awesome! lol

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




The Marauder posted:

Why are there so many posts here about so little?

the star citizen story in a nutshell

Devian666
Aug 20, 2008

Take some advice Chris.

Fun Shoe

The Marauder posted:

Why are there so many RSI emails over the past 3 years when the game doesn't exist?

terrorist ambulance
Nov 5, 2009

Ragequit posted:

It's like the power up battles in DBZ that last across 5 episodes. Instead of gold super hair it's gold earrings and instead of yelling it's word salad. Derek is Gohan and Chris is Cell, but Chris is sucking up donations instead of townfolk. Derek tries to end it with a Kamehameha of 10,000 word blog posts, but will this be enough to defeat Chris? TUNE IN NEXT TIME ON DRAGON BALL Z.

I hope this is an analogy you can relate to.

people paying thousands of dollars for vaporware and making posts like this

do you all have brain tumors or something

the radiation is coming from inside the thread

Ragequit
Jun 1, 2006


Lipstick Apathy

terrorist ambulance posted:

people paying thousands of dollars for vaporware and making posts like this

do you all have brain tumors or something

the radiation is coming from inside the thread

I was just expanding on the guy that mentioned DBZ like a hundred pages back. Sandi once called me retarded - maybe there is something to it.

Sushi in Yiddish
Feb 2, 2008

I wonder what percentage of people in the brown sea actually have doubts but don't want to risk getting kicked out of eden

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003
If CitCon is a disaster (it will be) I demand that The Smart Room be re-released as The Smart Room 3000AD.

The Marauder
Dec 1, 2013

Why walk out when you can outrun?

thatguy posted:

If CitCon is a disaster (it will be) I demand that The Smart Room be re-released as The Smart Room 3000AD.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.
For those curious, there's a new Batgirl Star Citizen update. I haven't listened to it but am about to.

EDIT: Nothing worth mentioning. Ignore.

EDIT 2: Actually, addresses controversy. Eschews Derek as hater, trusts Ben & Sandi and the people (currently) making this game. Team CIG!

G0RF fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Oct 2, 2015

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



terrorist ambulance posted:

someone please explain in plain no-meme no-irony english what is happening thanks

Chris Roberts is garbage at developing a game and managing a company and has blown something in the range of $82 million for a series of mediocre tech demos. Derek Smart, after having his backer pledge refunded for digging into the company's failure to actually do the thing it was established to do (make a video game), has gotten into a slugging match with Roberts and company. It's quickly being revealed that, as stated, Chris Roberts is garbage at developing a game and managing a company.

And the people mostly staying outside of the fray are still wondering how the hell this thing raised $90 million when it was practically blaring warning klaxons from the moment the Kickstarter went up. Guys and gals, if a Kickstarter pitch ever includes a phrase along the lines of, "We want to make our dream game, and we really need your help!", it's a scam - or, more charitably, it's going to use your money for kindling in a furnace of incompetence.

Shala
Oct 15, 2006

i shot the pilot

Lipstick Apathy

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

dreams are happening now


terrorist ambulance
Nov 5, 2009
what about the refunds though. People are asking for and getting their money back?

Schnorkles
Apr 30, 2015

It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

3 posted:

hi derek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88WL5MX1Co8
MP3 Here

code:
the legend lives on from the forums on down
of the game dev who made wing commander
the man they all say never quite found a way
to respond to the lies and the slander

from his backers he scored eighty-six million bucks more
though the promises made were quite empty
that company and crew was a bone to be chewed
when the blogs of october came early

the game was the pride of all nerdlings worldwide
spending all of their cash for no reason
as the kickstarters go it was bigger than most
with rewards and good stretch goals well seasoned

concluding some sales with a coupla' space whales
while their deadlines were still disappearing
come three years later when their twitter feeds rang
could it be derek smart they'd been fearing?

the forums online made a tattle-tale whine
with the subreddit frantically wailing
and every man knew as the chairman did too
t'was the goons of october come stealin'

the sale came late and the videos had to wait
though the hit in morale was a small one
when the article came it was more of the same
in the face of a million refunds

when suppertime came all the mods came on deck sayin'
fellas, we'll just have to ban ya
at seven p.m. the last blog post came in, they said
fellas, it's been good to know ya

the chairman wrote in he had committed no sin
toward the broken, the poor, and the hateful
and later that night on his battered website
went the wrecks of star citizen's faithful

does anyone know where the love of god goes
when you browse those forums for hours?
the faithful still say we'll see gameplay next may
if you just spend a thousand more dollars

it might be online and it might be single player
it might even see a release soon
but all that we see is the hopes and the dreams
of the redditors, furries and spacegoons

freelancer's good, wing commander's alright
and the x series keeps on surviving
old freespace seems like a young nerd's dreams
elite and the rest keep on flying

and year after year it just keeps getting clearer
that a space game's just planning for failure
when star citizen goes just like everyone knows
will the goons of october remember?

in a dusty old thread on the forums they watched
the collapse of the faithful on reddit
and as denial began, they stood tall to a man
or at least five in the case of ben lesnick

the legend lives on from the forums on down
of the game dev who made wing commander
chris roberts they say always could find a way
to turn failure to more propaganda 

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

dreams are happening now


SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

So when you guys say "Sell .jpegs of imaginary ships", is the picture tied to the promise of a ship for a game never coming out? Or is the picture literally the deliverable?

Because if it's the latter, then :psyboom:

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



terrorist ambulance posted:

what about the refunds though. People are asking for and getting their money back?

Yes. From what I recall, there was a clause that, if the game was over a year late from its stated release, you could request a refund. I imagine Roberts and company are in damage control mode because they realize that this is what the end of a Ponzi scheme looks like: people start to get suspicious and begin demanding the money that they ain't got anymore.

SirPhoebos posted:

So when you guys say "Sell .jpegs of imaginary ships", is the picture tied to the promise of a ship for a game never coming out? Or is the picture literally the deliverable?

Because if it's the latter, then :psyboom:

You would, in theory, get the actual ship in the game once it was finished and released, but the game "Star Citizen" that the ship would appear in will never be finished or released.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Sappo569 posted:

Comment on the forbes article



I imagine him stroking the handle of his katana as he types that comment, DO YOU HAVE NO HONOR SIR!?

M'citizen

OhDearGodNo
Jan 3, 2014

terrorist ambulance posted:

what about the refunds though. People are asking for and getting their money back?

Some have, some still waiting. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to the response time.

Thor-Stryker
Nov 11, 2005

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Bitter Beard posted:

I think we as a Goon community are really looking at this all wrong, we shouldn't be poking fun we should be looking to make 'fan renderings' of Star Citizen merchandise and selling it to these people, they obviously have income to piss away.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

terrorist ambulance posted:

what about the refunds though. People are asking for and getting their money back?

Its hit and miss. I submitted mine on the 29th and still waiting.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

Vermain posted:

You would, in theory, get the actual ship in the game once it was finished and released, but the game "Star Citizen" that the ship would appear in will never be finished or released.

That's what I thought, but the more I learned I began to doubt that assumption.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001




:perfect:

A Neurotic Jew
Feb 17, 2012

by exmarx

:eyepop:

Malleovic
Sep 8, 2007

OMGGG you could've tripped and DIED
good god this thread has become absolute poo poo

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.
Truly.

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



Malleovic posted:

good god this thread has become absolute poo poo

As above, so below.

Raised by Hamsters
Sep 16, 2007

and hopped up on bagels

3 posted:

hi derek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88WL5MX1Co8
MP3 Here

code:
the legend lives on from the forums on down
of the game dev who made wing commander
the man they all say never quite found a way
to respond to the lies and the slander

from his backers he scored eighty-six million bucks more
though the promises made were quite empty
that company and crew was a bone to be chewed
when the blogs of october came early

the game was the pride of all nerdlings worldwide
spending all of their cash for no reason
as the kickstarters go it was bigger than most
with rewards and good stretch goals well seasoned

concluding some sales with a coupla' space whales
while their deadlines were still disappearing
come three years later when their twitter feeds rang
could it be derek smart they'd been fearing?

the forums online made a tattle-tale whine
with the subreddit frantically wailing
and every man knew as the chairman did too
t'was the goons of october come stealin'

the sale came late and the videos had to wait
though the hit in morale was a small one
when the article came it was more of the same
in the face of a million refunds

when suppertime came all the mods came on deck sayin'
fellas, we'll just have to ban ya
at seven p.m. the last blog post came in, they said
fellas, it's been good to know ya

the chairman wrote in he had committed no sin
toward the broken, the poor, and the hateful
and later that night on his battered website
went the wrecks of star citizen's faithful

does anyone know where the love of god goes
when you browse those forums for hours?
the faithful still say we'll see gameplay next may
if you just spend a thousand more dollars

it might be online and it might be single player
it might even see a release soon
but all that we see is the hopes and the dreams
of the redditors, furries and spacegoons

freelancer's good, wing commander's alright
and the x series keeps on surviving
old freespace seems like a young nerd's dreams
elite and the rest keep on flying

and year after year it just keeps getting clearer
that a space game's just planning for failure
when star citizen goes just like everyone knows
will the goons of october remember?

in a dusty old thread on the forums they watched
the collapse of the faithful on reddit
and as denial began, they stood tall to a man
or at least five in the case of ben lesnick

the legend lives on from the forums on down
of the game dev who made wing commander
chris roberts they say always could find a way
to turn failure to more propaganda 

Oh my god :golfclap:

Amun Khonsu
Sep 15, 2012

wtf did he just say?
Grimey Drawer

EminusSleepus posted:

the forbes author is awesome! lol



what an idiot. someone says something i dont like so I will throw away more money to prove him wrong. Im in the wrong business, I need to crowdfund an epic space game and cultivate lemmings like this.

The Marauder
Dec 1, 2013

Why walk out when you can outrun?

I concur with this assessment.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Irrational Man posted:

If Sandi were a man there would be no mention of her to begin with, since no one would want to make him/her a target without some underlying prejudice to substantiate it (well assuming homophobia didn't take its place since she's now a man). As long as the evidence is thin, its credulity is linked to stereotyping women in management which is inherently sexist. Even if it turns out Sandi is a witch, right now you'd be believing the right thing for the wrong reasons.

These are just allegations and she deserves the benefit of the doubt

I was expecting this to be accompanied by an account registered in the last five days. I was disappointed.

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

EminusSleepus posted:

the forbes author is awesome! lol



not really sure what reaction the dude was expecting to get by saying he threw more money into the black hole.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

3 posted:

hi derek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88WL5MX1Co8
MP3 Here

code:
the legend lives on from the forums on down
of the game dev who made wing commander
the man they all say never quite found a way
to respond to the lies and the slander

from his backers he scored eighty-six million bucks more
though the promises made were quite empty
that company and crew was a bone to be chewed
when the blogs of october came early

the game was the pride of all nerdlings worldwide
spending all of their cash for no reason
as the kickstarters go it was bigger than most
with rewards and good stretch goals well seasoned

concluding some sales with a coupla' space whales
while their deadlines were still disappearing
come three years later when their twitter feeds rang
could it be derek smart they'd been fearing?

the forums online made a tattle-tale whine
with the subreddit frantically wailing
and every man knew as the chairman did too
t'was the goons of october come stealin'

the sale came late and the videos had to wait
though the hit in morale was a small one
when the article came it was more of the same
in the face of a million refunds

when suppertime came all the mods came on deck sayin'
fellas, we'll just have to ban ya
at seven p.m. the last blog post came in, they said
fellas, it's been good to know ya

the chairman wrote in he had committed no sin
toward the broken, the poor, and the hateful
and later that night on his battered website
went the wrecks of star citizen's faithful

does anyone know where the love of god goes
when you browse those forums for hours?
the faithful still say we'll see gameplay next may
if you just spend a thousand more dollars

it might be online and it might be single player
it might even see a release soon
but all that we see is the hopes and the dreams
of the redditors, furries and spacegoons

freelancer's good, wing commander's alright
and the x series keeps on surviving
old freespace seems like a young nerd's dreams
elite and the rest keep on flying

and year after year it just keeps getting clearer
that a space game's just planning for failure
when star citizen goes just like everyone knows
will the goons of october remember?

in a dusty old thread on the forums they watched
the collapse of the faithful on reddit
and as denial began, they stood tall to a man
or at least five in the case of ben lesnick

the legend lives on from the forums on down
of the game dev who made wing commander
chris roberts they say always could find a way
to turn failure to more propaganda 

:perfect:

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



Amun Khonsu posted:

what an idiot. someone says something i dont like so I will throw away more money to prove him wrong. Im in the wrong business, I need to crowdfund an epic space game and cultivate lemmings like this.

Here's the secret to making an enormous amount of money in a short amount of time: sell people desire, rather than an actual product that they can place their hands on.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Malleovic posted:

good god this thread has become absolute poo poo

how much have you invested?

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares



I have requested permission from my wife to suck your dick.

The request has been granted.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Wingman's hangar is still going strong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5am0Q5R0Bs

Just not for star citizen. Seems like Eric made the SMART decision and vacated.

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megalodong
Mar 11, 2008

Malleovic posted:

good god this thread has become absolute poo poo

How do you not post at all for 8 years, and then proceed to make your first, and the majority of your following posts, in a thread about star citizen?

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