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Octopode posted:Lots of independent, verified people, for instance, gave similar facts and stories about Saddam Hussein's WMD programs following the first Gulf War. Those stories turned out not to be true. The same might be true here, but no one can say for certain or not without at least attempting to prove the story, as presented by one side only, wrong.
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:The joke is that lots and lots of stories written these days by journalists are literally just repackaged press releases. I think a sign that we've reached maximum saturation is that I'm no longer sure if people took the post seriously or that I cannot tell if their responses are serious.
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sorla78 posted:no pageviews and clicks, you? Good journalists write things nobody reads!
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Dusty Lens posted:I think a sign that we've reached maximum saturation is that I'm no longer sure if people took the post seriously or that I cannot tell if their responses are serious. Yes khwarezm posted:Good journalists write things nobody reads! Rupert Murdoch agrees.
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Octopode posted:They could be entirely legitimate sources, completely verified, all providing the same story. Without any attempt to find facts that disagree with that story, the only thing you can say for certain is that they all gave reports of the same story. It doesn't actually make that story true. Comparing Sandy to WMD-s is cute, but I think you guys keep missing the crucial point. It does not matter if the story is true or not. The only thing that matters is the money. Do they have it or not. Even if the Sandy is literally the devil and CR just fucks up everyone's work and does nothing good for the project - (which i am sure is not true) given enough money, we would still get SC and this poo poo with the Escapist is just a fart in the wind which will pass.
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what I'm getting from this discussion is that some people have worked is some really lovely jobs if they think a bunch of their co-workers have a massive axe to grind as soon as they leave the company. if all your co-workers are assholes, it's you that's the rear end in a top hat
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Octopode posted:Lots of independent, verified people, for instance, gave similar facts and stories about Saddam Hussein's WMD programs following the first Gulf War. Those stories turned out not to be true. The same might be true here, but no one can say for certain or not without at least attempting to prove the story, as presented by one side only, wrong.
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Octopode posted:They could be entirely legitimate sources, completely verified, all providing the same story. Without any attempt to find facts that disagree with that story, the only thing you can say for certain is that they all gave reports of the same story. It doesn't actually make that story true. 
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G0RF posted:If you are likening Chris Roberts to Saddam Hussein and Robert's Cloud Imperium Games to Hussein's Dictatorial Kleptocracy, then I think we've found some common ground. No, I think I compared Chelsea Day to Colin Powell at some point. I'm not sure.
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Octopode posted:They could be entirely legitimate sources, completely verified, all providing the same story. Without any attempt to find facts that disagree with that story, the only thing you can say for certain is that they all gave reports of the same story. It doesn't actually make that story true. not a cult
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Dusty Lens posted:I think that they should have honored ethics in video game journalism Well, according to the Ethics Committee on Gaming Journalism, she really did violate the ethics of... Nah, I'm not going there. Good luck though.
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Agrajag posted:not a cult this is getting old
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To whichever Goonrathi member lives in Secane PA lol nice car
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Octopode posted:Lots of independent, verified people, for instance, gave similar facts and stories about Saddam Hussein's WMD programs following the first Gulf War. Those stories turned out not to be true. The same might be true here, but no one can say for certain or not without at least attempting to prove the story, as presented by one side only, wrong. There were lots of independent, verified people saying they didn't have them. Including a UN weapons inspector, and an English expert who killed himself because he was being hounded by government goons to change his loving story. tooterfish fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Oct 3, 2015 |
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Don't you even dare! Baghdad Bob was the only good thing to come out of that war you rear end in a top hat! SirTagz posted:this is getting old not a cult
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SirTagz posted:this is getting old so is Octopode's aspergers syndrome
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sorla78 posted:Anyways. If twitter is indeed the prefered vector to establish sources, it's no wonder that investigative journalism is non-existent in gaming journalism. I would shut up as well, christ, these people are on linked-in... but I guess not compromising your potential sources and keeping communication private, is what keeps you from polishing your self-image in front of 5k followers. That fact that she asked to speak to someone via twitter in public doesn't make them a source as we don't know if they replied or not.
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Sushi in Yiddish posted:Cutlass Shrugged Where in the gently caress are all those ships kept, anyway?
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Sushi in Yiddish posted:Cutlass Shrugged I'm stealing this.
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Literally Kermit posted:Where in the gently caress are all those ships kept, anyway? *fart* the hanger module *fart*
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Literally Kermit posted:Where in the gently caress are all those ships kept, anyway? .\My Documents\My Pictures
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Agrajag posted:Don't you even dare! Baghdad Bob was the only good thing to come out of that war you rear end in a top hat! Every time you guys write 'not a cult' i hear 'HELMET!! HELMET!! HELMET!!' loving hive mind
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Klyith posted:.\My Documents\My Pictures god damnit SirTagz posted:
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Literally Kermit posted:Where in the gently caress are all those ships kept, anyway? Most of them don't even exist enough to be put in a hangar. I think they halted a lot of progress (such as it was) on the big ships because they were going to have boarding and most weren't designed to be fun maps to FPS in.
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Thing is, I own exactly as many spaceships as the guy who has spent the most money on SC - and chances are I always will. For some reason, that thought makes me feel a little bit richer.
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AP posted:That fact that she asked to speak to someone via twitter in public doesn't make them a source as we don't know if they replied or not. Sure the collective rational minds on this board agree. Still, if she was a source this would have compromised her and if she is not a source, it might raise suspicion and end up being a liability. In the words of Sandi: "She is a traitor we cannot trust her, we don't hire her."
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SelenicMartian posted:Are those unshaven mikes or... they're there to prevent the mic's from picking up excessive background noise
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good morning star citizen thread. Dusty Lens posted:I think that they should have honored ethics in video game journalism and ensured that the party being reported on was aware of what was being published and was provided ample time to edit and correct any points that it felt required adjustment before it was published barring a collapse in an agreement regarding advertising rights which tbh may be what happened here which will make me look like a real dork.  is that one of those word salads that computers make? what're they called?
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SirTagz posted:Comparing Sandy to WMD-s is cute, but I think you guys keep missing the crucial point. It does not matter if the story is true or not. The only thing that matters is the money. Do they have it or not. Well there's also the case of is the game possible to make? Can you make a seamless living, multiplayer universe where dozens of people control capital ships and seamlessly transition into first person shooting inside every ship and planet? Can you do this in Cryengine? No you can't.
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nopantsjack posted:Well there's also the case of is the game possible to make? But if they can, does that mean you don't exist?
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:good morning star citizen thread. Bloggers. Seriously though I should rephrase: in imagination land, this 'verse, they would be in a hanger module? What? I have to buy a whole new cheap space bus to ferry me between stations if i want to move my personal fleet to a new area. SC just gets a handwave? Edit: this is in Elite: Dangerous. Ships just stay in the station you left them in if you buy a new one and don't sell the old. Literally Kermit fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Oct 3, 2015 |
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:good morning star citizen thread. Markov chains.
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sorla78 posted:But if they can, does that mean you don't exist? Its somewhat of a moot point, because they can't. They might end up with an incredibly unstable sorta planetside/E:D game though.
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Don't worry you guys, at this point Star Citizen is too big to fail, the government is going to have to step in and bail them out
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Octopode posted:Without any attempt to find facts that disagree with that story, the only thing you can say for certain is that they all gave reports of the same story. It doesn't actually make that story true. The thing about bitter ex staff making a story up is that, sure what you say is possible, especially with how easily people can communicate online nowadays, but they'd have to be really really pissed off to go through with it. The only type of thing that I can see pissing a group of people off enough to make up some stories that your old boss and his wife are breaking the law and were a complete nightmare to work for would be if your old boss and his wife were a complete nightmare to work for. If they were potentially breaking the law too, that would just increase the chances you went public because in part you felt it was the right thing to do in addition to the whole revenge motivation. Personally, I think it's all pretty much true because if we ignore the escapist for a moment, it being true also helps explain why Derek Smart didn't really need much time to get warmed up but went nuclear with his first blogpost, which was way before a lot of the layoffs.
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