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keep in mind this is a refral program for a game that does not exist and they have prize level for poo poo that does not exist and are selling 13k + packages of jpgs. everything smells fucky about CIG
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D_Smart posted:I think it was spot on. Aside from the fact that some Goon I had given the name of the fighter to, made an error with the SHA-256 and the name was cracked immediately. Thus giving them enough time to change the name to Sabre. As the guy who originally suggested the cryptographic prediction (partly because I treat you with the same skepticism that I treat anyone).... I can in fact confirm that Goons ruin everything.
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Unfunny Poster posted:Can you support your assertion that the anonymous sources were actually disgruntled with CIG? Not really, but weren't they let go? As for the claims of game development being toxic.... The amount of vitriol thrown towards developers, those involved in crowdfunded titles in particular is insane so I totally understand that argument. Without a financial audit, the entire thing is just one side versus the other. It has piqued my curiosity though.
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Alexander DeLarge posted:Not really, but weren't they let go? As for the claims of game development being toxic.... The amount of vitriol thrown towards developers, those involved in crowdfunded titles in particular is insane so I totally understand that argument. yeah crobizzle double dipping with his wife working at cig and being hired as part of the cast isn't a huge conflict of interest and indicative of fucky poo poo going on at all nope no siree
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Young Freud posted:This is going to sound like a nitpick, but why is Gary Oldman giving that speech? Someone posted Churchill's speech that's Roberts is cribbing from but he forgot that Churchill is a politician.
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Alexander DeLarge posted:Not really, but weren't they let go? As for the claims of game development being toxic.... The amount of vitriol thrown towards developers, those involved in crowdfunded titles in particular is insane so I totally understand that argument. Why do you assume they were "let go"? I don't recall that being mentioned in the article other than "they were former employees". You seem to be making assumptions.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Wasnt it a mix of ex- and current employees anyways? Yes, but that is ignored entirely because some people are deciding that if an ex-employee is involved they must have a grudge and must have been fired for being incompetent or whatever other assumptions are passed on as fact.
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Rudager posted:
To be fair, the whole recruitment thing is something people have been asking for a long time, but I do have to agree, why now? Couldn't have been too difficult to implement a unique code generator and create rewards that don't actually exist yet.
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Unfunny Poster posted:Yes, but that is ignored entirely because some people are deciding that if an ex-employee is involved they must have a grudge and must have been fired for being incompetent or whatever other assumptions are passed on as fact. oh come on, lets be honest here, they are dismissing everything simply by someone somewhere mentioning d.smart
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Agrajag posted:oh come on, lets be honest here, they are dismissing everything simply by someone somewhere mentioning d.smart Also GamerGate. Because SA is known to be super supportive and coordinators of that shitshow.
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Alexander DeLarge posted:Eh, I'll withhold judgement until I play 2.0 for myself, but wasn't the whole "out of money" thing unsubstantiated rumors coming from disgruntled employees? The numbers being thrown around just don't make sense, unless the whole mismanagement thing is really true (but I feel we'd be hearing a lot more from insiders if that were true) The fact that everything is focused strongly on selling more pre-order bonuses is another huge red flag. If everything was fine funding-wise then they could simply hunker down and produce results and let them do the talking. But they can't do that if they need to sell more virtual ships to survive.
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Unfunny Poster posted:Why do you assume they were "let go"? I don't recall that being mentioned in the article other than "they were former employees". You're correct, I haven't read the article since the day it came out, when all these rebuttals and discussions on various forums started happening, and then there was the whole Letter to the Chairman and ties to GamerGate and Derek Smart and all this crazy poo poo was talked about, I'm completely lost. I liked what I saw at CitizenCon though.
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Unfunny Poster posted:Also GamerGate. Because SA is known to be super supportive and coordinators of that shitshow. Is it safe to assume the general stance is "Don't touch the poop" and laugh at anyone with poop on their hands?
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Alexander DeLarge posted:I liked what I saw at CitizenCon though. What the gently caress? How?!
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death .cab for qt posted:What the gently caress? its his opinion can't really fault someone for liking something
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death .cab for qt posted:What the gently caress? Coming out of Elite Dangerous and the shitshow that was X Rebirth, it looks better than those.
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PITT posted:Easy... lets not get carried away with hyperbole here. It was pointed out to me that if you treat the original X Rebirth release as an early access title and look at the continued development it's had over the last 2 years then it actually starts to look a whole lot better in its current form, it might even bet getting praised instead of being an obvious target for jokes.
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Alexander DeLarge posted:Not really, but weren't they let go? As for the claims of game development being toxic.... The amount of vitriol thrown towards developers, those involved in crowdfunded titles in particular is insane so I totally understand that argument. There is no vitriol against developers. People in charge of companies making stupid decisions, yes. But developers? No.
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Alexander DeLarge posted:Coming out of Elite Dangerous and the shitshow that was X Rebirth, it looks better than those. i dont know what x rebirth is but it definitely does not look better than ED. everything about their demo was buggy and janky and the model animations are on par with arma/day z
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Young Freud posted:This is going to sound like a nitpick, but why is Gary Oldman giving that speech? Someone posted Churchill's speech that's Roberts is cribbing from but he forgot that Churchill is a politician. Military personnel rarely speak to a legislative body like that unless they're in a military dictatorship. I know here, in the United States, we've had speeches from military leaders in joint sessions of Congress, but, in our 300 years, they were never really during a war (although Eisenhower's speech on June 18th, 1945 might still count, but he was called by Congress to describe how well the Allies kicked the Nazis' asses) and are really only there to announce major organizational changes (such as Eisenhower announcing the creation of NATO and Gen. MacArthur's "old soldiers never die, they fade away" resignation). If you do this, you'll drive yourself insane. Croberts wrote and directed Wing Commander. Which is all that needs to be said. Alexander DeLarge posted:Coming out of Elite Dangerous and the shitshow that was X Rebirth, it looks better than those. Those two both exist. Star Citizen will never exist except as a 10 hour movie or a garbage squadron 42.
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Alexander DeLarge posted:Coming out of Elite Dangerous and the shitshow that was X Rebirth, it looks better than those. 30 minutes of nothing happening was better than a game with actual combat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fN9J_ZshHM???
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This is all being analyzed as if it needs to hold up to the standards of literally the best game ever made. That's CR's smooth talk getting to you. In reality, something playable needs to be released. I guess I am more optimistic because I think something multiplayer will come out. More importantly, I am given the chance to ruin someone's day. There's so many people that have spent so much, the tear-bank will be non-stop overflowing. The boring fps, janky movement, stuttering walls, etc all matter less if there's an opportunity to piss off a whale. They will play the game because they have to, they spent thousands. After some idiot loses his poo poo enough, then we will start to see the RSI forums burn. At some point the whales will be protected, but there's a small window of fun somewhere in this pile of poo poo, and I want it.
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It does look better than X-Rebirth, but saying something looks better than X-Rebirth is like saying someone is more attractive than a gangrene infection.
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Gerbil_Pen posted:This is all being analyzed as if it needs to hold up to the standards of literally the best game ever made. That's CR's smooth talk getting to you. Wasn't that the hope of goons? Just load up in hundreds of lovely ships and murder the whales over and over until they go insane?
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Gerbil_Pen posted:This is all being analyzed as if it needs to hold up to the standards of literally the best game ever made. That's CR's smooth talk getting to you. Two years later, you'll be able to have 1v1 matches in 2-3 small, featureless maps and the capital ships still won't be ready, calling it now.
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The fact that Star Citizen has both promised "Functioning Economy! No Pay to Win!" and also selling thousand dollar packages is why, even though I know very little about the game from a gameplay perspective, I know it will suck.
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Dapper Dan posted:Wasn't that the hope of goons? Just load up in hundreds of lovely ships and murder the whales over and over until they go insane? Which is to say they took advantage of an oversight in the combat system and used it to great advantage while taking out people's space Tesla/Ferrari/Bugatti's
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FilthyImp posted:Which is to say they took advantage of an oversight in the combat system Wasn't the official response from the devs was "working as intended" when the spacerich came crying? Because it was ~fantastic~ Unfortunately RSI would probably PATCH MECHANICS or BAN PEOPLE instead of letting their whales end up as prey. Buuuut that would require them to have a game first. OWLS! fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Oct 12, 2015 |
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OWLS! posted:Wasn't the official response from the devs was "working as intended" when the spacerich came crying? Because it was ~fantastic~
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I guess I'd settle for some good EVE stream sniping vids... someone linked a good one in the last thread.
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I just want to point out that if you sort it by just the production cost and don't include marketing, it looks like this.  I also want to point out that SWTOR took 200 million to produce, which is about how much SC would cost with all the features promised if they had someone sane manning the helm. As is, I bet it would be closer to 500 million to do everything they said they would.
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So if someone has LTI what's to stop them from running insurance scams by having a friend "steal" their ship? Either you can't actually steal ships or the ships themselves are a dime a dozen and the upgrades are what makes a ship valuable. Can a fully decked out chariot of class A beat a swarm of 5 goons in barebones class As? There seems to be a crazy amount of "game" stuff that hasn't been addressed in the slightest amidst all the oohing and ahhing over the visuals. (I know, I know...there's no game) I tried playing EVE with goons for a few weeks. The game itself sucked and was boring but the voicechat stories about all the scamming of pubbies was priceless. I have to think a significant portion of the "dream" factor for Star Citizen has been dudes who wished they didn't have such a lovely time playing EVE. They would pay anything to get in on the ground floor so they can be the ones stomping and pulling the strings in corps instead of getting ganked while ratting or getting scammed by goons.
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Amarcarts posted:So if someone has LTI what's to stop them from running insurance scams by having a friend "steal" their ship? They said they would hire people to be full time claims adjusters looking for insurance fraud. I'm not joking.
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Amarcarts posted:So if someone has LTI what's to stop them from running insurance scams by having a friend "steal" their ship? Well for starters there's no game
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I'm watching the twitch show.....  Did Sandi just start crying on the stage while talking about "connections" being made?Is she really referencing a "shadowy hate campaign against her"? Not a cult.
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Amarcarts posted:So if someone has LTI what's to stop them from running insurance scams by having a friend "steal" their ship? Just play X3, with or without mods. That's pretty much everything you could want out of EVE besides chatting with other people.
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