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Trabant posted:And some "oh, just casually holding up my heavy-rear end stereo equipment" ads: Absolutely no chance they didn't green screen a forklift out of this picture
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Ozz81 posted:Absolutely no chance they didn't green screen a forklift out of this picture More likely those are just the front panels glued to Styrofoam.
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Oct 18, 2015 20:19
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KozmoNaut posted:I agree, a decent stereo amp will never be obsolete as long as it has at least one line-level input. At least not until anything not Class D or better is outlawed for being inefficient Oh hello, me. I had until very recently an older Yamaha amp running the sound for my dedicated arcade PC, paired up with some 80s floor speakers [you know, those big rectangular speakers everyone's parents had], and that thing was amazing. The bass could shake the walls and floor, the mids and highs were nice and clear, it was a great, great amp. Unfortunately, the left channel died, and I ended up looking around for another basic two channel amp at thrift stores to no avail. Finally bought a brand new one, another Yamaha, super basic 2 channel amp that works pretty well, though it doesn't quite have the oomph that the older one did. I am loving this old audio tech discussion, the last page was amazing. Ozz81 posted:Absolutely no chance they didn't green screen a forklift out of this picture Seriously. The component system that I took my old amp off of, which had an equalizer, CD changer, FM tuner and... something else [power distribution?] weighed a ton.
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Oct 18, 2015 20:21
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My dad still has one of these he purchased new somewhere between 1978-1982 in his workshop, powering some JBL cabinet speakers from the 60s.
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Oct 18, 2015 20:28
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Trabant posted:
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Oct 18, 2015 20:32
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Phanatic posted:Soviet Walkman knockoff? Doesn't walk [X] Isn't man [X] Checks out.
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Oct 18, 2015 20:34
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Trabant posted:As long as we have brown people and old white people who are scared of them, AM radio will thrive.    from the page you linked: http://cassetteplayers.tumblr.com/
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Oct 18, 2015 21:02
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flosofl posted:My dad still has one of these he purchased new somewhere between 1978-1982 in his workshop, powering some JBL cabinet speakers from the 60s. same, my dad has this thing too
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Oct 18, 2015 21:12
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Jesus, that font. 
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flosofl posted:My dad still has one of these he purchased new somewhere between 1978-1982 in his workshop, powering some JBL cabinet speakers from the 60s. In the late 90's, our family PC was sitting on top of a finished piece of wood that was resting on top of a pair of cabinet speakers that were connected to one of these. I used to play Quake through one of these.
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Oct 18, 2015 22:43
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Jesus, that font. I know, it's just about perfect. Apparently derived from this: http://fontsinuse.com/typefaces/23744/metropolis
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Lowen SoDium posted:In the late 90's, our family PC was sitting on top of a finished piece of wood that was resting on top of a pair of cabinet speakers that were connected to one of these. I used to play Quake through one of these. I was doing pretty much the same thing until just a few years ago when a random power outage finally killed it. I'll take older receivers like this over the modern stuff in an instant as long as I can keep them working. My favourite Soundjam MP skins were always the ones that looked like front panels on 80s hi-fi gear.
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It's not like much has happened with amplifiers over the last 30 or 40 years, apart from marginally better signal/noise ratios and lower noise levels, both of with were already good enough by the 70s for any sort of normal playback. And maybe higher power efficiency too, what with class D and that sort of stuff. Other than that, it seems that the biggest "advances" have been in pointless features and cost cutting. Really the biggest new feature that's come along is the remote control, and that happened like ~30 years ago. KozmoNaut has a new favorite as of 23:14 on Oct 18, 2015 |
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Jesus, that font. Seriously, I feel like Patrick Bateman admiring a business card looking at that
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KozmoNaut posted:It's not like much has happened with amplifiers over the last 30 or 40 years, apart from marginally better signal/noise ratios and lower noise levels, both of with were already good enough by the 70s for any sort of normal playback. And maybe higher power efficiency too, what with class D and that sort of stuff. I want to say with HDMI and the right kind of setup your TV can turn on your stereo and that kind of stuff, too. It's pretty neat.
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Pham Nuwen posted:More likely those are just the front panels glued to Styrofoam. I'm gonna guess there is a metal support bar running up or behind her left pant leg, similar to the old "meditating guy balancing on a walking stick" illusion that street performers do.
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El Estrago Bonito posted:I'm gonna guess there is a metal support bar running up or behind her left pant leg, similar to the old "meditating guy balancing on a walking stick" illusion that street performers do. That sends like a lot more work than just taking the heavy electronics out and holding up the empty case.
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Imagined posted:I want to say with HDMI and the right kind of setup your TV can turn on your stereo and that kind of stuff, too. It's pretty neat. Yeah, there's basically two ways to do it. Either with one of these: http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=10251 Or if your TV has audio out and you mute the TV speakers.
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Sorry to interrupt Hi-Fi chat, but here's something that seems to be pretty much obsolete in the gaming world: cheat cartridges and CDs. These things practically disappeared by the time the Xbox 360 and PS3 came out.
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Tubesock Holocaust posted:Sorry to interrupt Hi-Fi chat, but here's something that seems to be pretty much obsolete in the gaming world: cheat cartridges and CDs. Game genie was the poo poo. I think they mostly disappeared because the games because so much larger/more complicated. The first generation of them basically just peek/poked memory from the cart to the system. So for something like mario brothers, once you knew where the memory location for your lives were you could enter a 6 (I think) digit code to give yourself 99 lives. It was pretty genius.
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Yeah, unfortunately those things became security risks and with all the online accounts and achievements and poo poo you can't really have those running around the way they used to.
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Light Gun Man posted:Yeah, unfortunately those things became security risks and with all the online accounts and achievements and poo poo you can't really have those running around the way they used to. Yeah, I mean you can do the same thing now if you really want to (on a computer at least), but you'll probably just crash the poo poo out of the game. For anything multiplayer...etc. you just store all the important poo poo on the server.
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My college's radio station used to be 24-hour student-run programming, but last year got changed to running Georgia Public Broadcasting from 5 AM to 7 PM every day. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRAS_(FM)
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Tubesock Holocaust posted:Sorry to interrupt Hi-Fi chat, but here's something that seems to be pretty much obsolete in the gaming world: cheat cartridges and CDs. What killed these devices was how locked down consoles became. Anyone trying to make a cheat device now has to deal with system updates making their devices/hacks worthless, and most players aren't willing to risk getting their accounts (which contain all the DLC and games they bought) banned if they get caught. These days most "cheat devices" involve save editing since traditional realtime memory hacks are pretty much impossible now outside of PC game trainers.
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I seem to recall MS did something to render some third-party memory card products for the 360 useless, then eventually went the step further of letting people just use their own thumbdrives (which they should have just done in the first place). Ultimately, MS phased out their own proprietary memory card to the point that you can't use them in any new systems made I think in the last five years.
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Zonekeeper posted:What killed these devices was how locked down consoles became. Anyone trying to make a cheat device now has to deal with system updates making their devices/hacks worthless, and most players aren't willing to risk getting their accounts (which contain all the DLC and games they bought) banned if they get caught. Not really, though. These things (GameShark, game genie, action replay, etc) could only really thrive with cartridge based systems, since that allowed for an easy route to direct memory access. Yes, they came out for the playstation (with and without the parallel port) and PS2, but that was only due to iterative complex hacks as the systems themselves became more complicated. And once last generation came around, everything was USB, so there was no longer any way to get memory access. Sure, the console manufacturers wanted to prevent cheat devices, but once consoles turned into PCs there was nothing more to be done
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Imagined posted:I want to say with HDMI and the right kind of setup your TV can turn on your stereo and that kind of stuff, too. It's pretty neat. Yes, when it works. And of course A/V receivers have added support for the various new surround sound formats that have been developed. But that is something a separate sound processor could just as easily do, and then feed the decoded signal to a 1970s multichannel power amplifier (or a couple of stereo amplifiers). It would work exactly as well as using a modern A/V receiver. A little more bulky perhaps, but with the same functionality.
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Groke posted:Pretty sure my parents' old Tandberg stereo still works, and it has one of these. Indestructible. The drive belts are made of rubber and will stretch and rot. Replace them, and everything else will outlast civilization.
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Phanatic posted:Soviet Walkman knockoff? There were a few. I like the colors on this  I had this one before getting some Casio thing.  Stereo mic, line in, a speaker. Was creaky as gently caress, I mean if you squeezed it the plastic parts would make noises.
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loga mira posted:There were a few. I like the colors on this KASSETTNEY MAGNETOPHON
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Yeah the nomenclature was as clumsy as the devices themselves. Magnitofon, proigrivatel, you can see why there just called players nowadays. Some soviet audio gear was good looking I inherited one of these nice solid metal knobs
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Slanderer posted:Not really, though. These things (GameShark, game genie, action replay, etc) could only really thrive with cartridge based systems, since that allowed for an easy route to direct memory access. Yes, they came out for the playstation (with and without the parallel port) and PS2, but that was only due to iterative complex hacks as the systems themselves became more complicated. And once last generation came around, everything was USB, so there was no longer any way to get memory access. Sure, the console manufacturers wanted to prevent cheat devices, but once consoles turned into PCs there was nothing more to be done
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Platystemon posted:In the formal sense. Let's settle this permanently. This is the 1848 paper in which William Thomson (later Lord Kelvin) proposed an absolute scale of temperature. All measurements of temperature made in it are made in Celsius - which is hardly surprising, as Anders Celsius first devised a scale measuring temperature in percentiles of the difference between the freezing and boiling points of water in 1742. So while the degree kelvin has been adopted as the SI standard and all current measurements (including Celsius) are derived from it, the Kelvin scale was itself wholly derived from the Celsius scale. There is no difference between the two except the starting point.
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KozmoNaut posted:It's not like much has happened with amplifiers over the last 30 or 40 years, apart from marginally better signal/noise ratios and lower noise levels, both of with were already good enough by the 70s for any sort of normal playback. And maybe higher power efficiency too, what with class D and that sort of stuff. And now Marantz and Onkyo and a few other brands have this big problem with a certain USB board causing major headaches to the service agents. The boards were that bad a 3rd party was tasked to custom build boards and ship them out to everyone. the source of this information is myself and having to deal with multiple delays on the assholes spinning new board revisions and claiming 'next week it will be ready'. My boards arrive tomorrow so heres hoping I don't blow the poo poo out of multiple thousands of dollars worth of main boards because they rushed it.
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Going back to the FM chat for a moment: As one of the few - perhaps the only - country in the world, Norway has decided to close the national FM network in the immediate future. Local stations can continue in FM, but in January 2017 we will start turning off FM transmitters and moving everything else to DAB+ . This was decided many years ago contingent on good enough DAB coverage, and has kind of snuck up on everyone; there's been a lot of complaints recently but it looks like it will go ahead. Shame so few cars and phones have DAB+ receivers, and the effective coverage on remote roads is very mediocre ... but I'm cautiously positive. DAB is really neat when it works. Computer viking has a new favorite as of 12:24 on Oct 19, 2015 |
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Denmark is supposedly shutting down FM in 2019, so while the time frame isn't nearly as ambitious as Norway's, I still wonder how realistic it is. Very few new cars even have a DAB+ radio as an option, so there are still tons of FM radios being sold every day.
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KozmoNaut posted:Denmark is supposedly shutting down FM in 2019, so while the time frame isn't nearly as ambitious as Norway's, I still wonder how realistic it is. Very few new cars even have a DAB+ radio as an option, so there are still tons of FM radios being sold every day. Which is a failure in itself - it's not like adding DAB beside FM would be more than a rounding error in the cost (or power usage) of a modern car.
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There's got to be some pull with current FM radio stations here. I think if the FM broadcasters shut down, millions of people without a digital receiver would just go without the poo poo and just listen to music on their phones or ipods in their car or at work. The radio stations are that bad here in Australia no one would miss it except for local community radio playing certain stuff like non mainstream new music, and talkback radio (which is on AM anyway)
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Sweden has had a similar proposal about moving all FM radio to DAB+ on the table for a couple of years, but it was finally struck down recently because nobody could actually argue for how DAB+ would be an improvement over FM.
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Eh, I can list a handful of strong positives for DAB - the question is if it's worth the equally clear negatives.
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