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FH is such an interestingly designed area.
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I do find it kind of interesting how the only land-based bridge between Galbadia and Esthar territory doesn't have about 50000 soldiers from both sides staring each other down over a demilitarised zone.
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Oct 22, 2015 09:04
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I would have prefered some more visible backstory for it. So the people live in the ruins of... ... of... uh. of. A solar power plant and a train station in the middle of the ocean, next so some rail switches?
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Oct 22, 2015 15:28
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Wipfmetz posted:I would have prefered some more visible backstory for it. So the people live in the ruins of... ... of... uh. of. A solar power plant and a train station in the middle of the ocean, next so some rail switches? it's not hard to imagine that the bridge came first, when Galbadia and Esthar were on better terms, and FH popped up in the middle as a settlement. the solar panels were probably installed by them for energy purposes.
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Oct 22, 2015 15:58
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Two Finger posted:I do find it kind of interesting how the only land-based bridge between Galbadia and Esthar territory doesn't have about 50000 soldiers from both sides staring each other down over a demilitarised zone. They probably had at some point at least on the Galbadian side. They'll got bored looking at nothing at some point and left,most likely. Esthar hasn't been aggressive or present at all since their war ended.
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Oct 22, 2015 16:41
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I don't know if it's made explicit, but I always felt that what we're told next up date explains how FH came about.
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Oct 22, 2015 17:41
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Hymirvetr posted:They probably had at some point at least on the Galbadian side. They'll got bored looking at nothing at some point and left,most likely. Esthar hasn't been aggressive or present at all since their war ended. Actually thinking about it this does make sense and is explained.
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Oct 22, 2015 17:46
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Fisherman's Horizon was always my favorite city from FF. Midgar is cool, but who doesn't love a weird shanty town/power plant/fishing village in the middle of the ocean, potentially with its own rail line? Just thought it was really neat.
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Oct 22, 2015 18:13
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Kajeesus posted:I don't know if it's made explicit, but I always felt that what we're told next up date explains _______ ff8.txt Simply Simon posted:No town would abbreviate itself just so you don't have to write as much text in the boxes, While that guy just saying OH BY THE WAY WE CALL IT FH to a brand new visitor (so to speak) is a little awkward the idea of acronyms/initials for a place isn't so rare or unusual as to merit the level of hate here. It's pretty common, actually. I can think of a lot in North America alone. As an example, I'm pretty sure if I said "I'm from LA" you'd know what I meant. Or, at least most Americans would probably know regional ones - depending on where you are "I'm going to NYC," "I was in STL the other day," "I'm going to head down to AC for some gambling," "I'm too lazy to make up more fake sentences for SLC, SF, NOLA, and so on" plus BC in Canada and DF in Mexico and I'm positive they have many more that I don't know about. So North America, at minimum, has this poo poo on lockdown.  Psion fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Oct 22, 2015 |
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Oct 22, 2015 18:52
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Psion posted:"I was in STL the other day," "I'm going to head down to AC for some gambling," "I'm too lazy to make up more fake sentences for SLC, SF, NOLA, and so on" I've never heard anybody refer to these places this way in speech, and just imagining it makes me want to punch them. That said, you're right that's it's true for some places, like LA or (Washington) DC.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:21
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Schwartzcough posted:I've never heard anybody refer to these places this way in speech, and just imagining it makes me want to punch them. That said, you're right that's it's true for some places, like LA or (Washington) DC. well, I have and I don't get overly aggressively mad about how people choose to refer to their cities  besides, you think that's bad, wait until aviation nerds get involved. Then it's referring to cities by airport code. Do you know where YYZ is? You will soon  I'm sure part of it is a regional thing - I doubt people outside the midwest would get STL, people outside the east coast probably have no idea about AC, and same for west coast and SF. But either way - the concept is pretty widespread.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:23
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Psion posted:ff8.txt I live just outside Boston, in a suburb that is a city in its own right. However, if I tell someone that I'm going into the city, they know I mean Boston. (Honestly, you say "I'm going into the city" to most people inside 495, and ANYONE inside 128, downtown Boston is implied.) The only other shortened version of Boston that is acceptable around here is "The Hub" (Look at it on a road map that shows out to 128 or 495) TBH though Boston feels more like an amalgation of several smaller cities/towns. Which makes sense if you know its history of expansion. [/derail]
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Oct 22, 2015 19:35
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Psion posted:well, I have and I don't get overly aggressively mad about how people choose to refer to their cities It's here.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:35
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Psion posted:well, I have and I don't get overly aggressively mad about how people choose to refer to their cities I live in the midwest and have never once heard anyone call St Louis(which is what I assume it stands for) STL. DC and LA are generally the only ones I hear commonly, and I think that DC is mostly called that because calling it Washington would be confusing.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:37
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Khisanth Magus posted:I live in the midwest and have never once heard anyone call St Louis(which is what I assume it stands for) STL. DC and LA are generally the only ones I hear commonly, and I think that DC is mostly called that because calling it Washington would be confusing. It could be Seattle too. I've seen it used for both, but always in print, never verbally.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:43
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FoolyCharged posted:It could be Seattle too. I've seen it used for both, but always in print, never verbally. I was assuming St Louis because he said no one outside the midwest would get it. I agree with the person saying that people using all these 2-3 letter abbreviations for cities in speech would make me want to punch them. Similar to people saying "lol" in speech.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:54
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Khisanth Magus posted:I live in the midwest and have never once heard anyone call St Louis(which is what I assume it stands for) STL. DC and LA are generally the only ones I hear commonly, and I think that DC is mostly called that because calling it Washington would be confusing. I live in St. Louis and people do call it STL out loud sometimes. Deal with it, people love abbreviations. It's also the boston situation sort of in that St. Louis city is independent from its metropolitan area and yet people all the way down to farmington will just say "I live in St. Louis".
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Oct 22, 2015 20:06
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The punching urge is because pretty much all of these examples scream "someone trying to sound cool" rather than any actual spoken convenience. Most of these initialisms take just as long to pronounce as simply saying the city's name. If you live in/around the city, you can just say "the city" and everyone will know what you mean. If you live outside the area, the person your speaking to would have to spend mental time trying to translate your weird-rear end abbreviation into actual useful information, so you may as well have just said the real name in the first place and taken out the guesswork.
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Oct 22, 2015 20:24
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FH has almost a Cosmo Canyon-y kinda feel to it, with the whole peace-loving vibe. EDIT: I meant CC
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Oct 22, 2015 20:33
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Psion posted:besides, you think that's bad, wait until aviation nerds get involved. Then it's referring to cities by airport code. Do you know where YYZ is? You will soon I'm not an av nerd, but I've been to airports. Most of them have reasonable names, like CPH for the Copenhagen airport, or CDG for Charles de Gaulle International. I guess by the time Pearson International was established, all the good abbreviations were taken. 
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Oct 22, 2015 21:37
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Kajeesus posted:I'm not an av nerd, but I've been to airports. Most of them have reasonable names, like CPH for the Copenhagen airport, or CDG for Charles de Gaulle International. I guess by the time Pearson International was established, all the good abbreviations were taken. Those are the IATA codes. The ICAO codes for Copenhagen and Charles de Gaulle are EKCH and LFPG, respectively. And then for the US there's also FAA LIDs. 
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Oct 22, 2015 22:13
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I wonder what spell Squall cast to cut the fishing line. I hope it was Break
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Oct 22, 2015 22:55
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People totally call Atlantic City AC in New Jersey. STL is something ive heard, but not often and ive heard Atlanta called ATL before. NOLA is practically a word, and im in Port St Lucie now and people shorthand it to PSL all the time
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Oct 22, 2015 23:30
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When I lived in Columbia, SC (which for whatever reason I always called Cola), people constantly called Atlanta ALT. Also Jacksonville was JAX. Less an abbreviation, more a nickname, but whatever the gently caress. Also, I've often heard SLC for Salt Lake City. People shorten things in arbitrary ways.
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Oct 23, 2015 05:52
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The sorta awkward initials thing is common for big cities, but it'd still be weird if you got off a plane at LAX and some dude was there to greet you like, "Welcome to Los Angeles, otherwise known as LA!" But RPGs are kinda weird in the fact that we have to act like it's normal that our main characters are so ignorant of the world they live in. Like, of course everyone on the garden should've known about FH. They should've been freaking out about that collision from the moment Balamb set adrift. That'd be like if you were an American setting sail in the Pacific, then being flabbergasted when you run into this island and strange culture called, "Hawaii." I guess this game does have limited communication throughout the world, but literally the first place you are in the game is a school, filled with older teenagers, presumably about to graduate. You'd think geography would be one of those classes an international mercenary group would have to pass.
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Oct 24, 2015 04:03
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Eh, it's easy to say I could do it better god knows how much later, but they could have easily had the guy just say something along the lines of "Welcome to Fisherman's Haven!" and then had Squall think "(So this is FH...)" It would have accomplished the same goal of informing the player without the stilted delivery.
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Oct 24, 2015 13:12
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Welcome to the Final Fantasy VIII Let's Play! In this thread, we call it the FF8 LP.
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Oct 24, 2015 13:42
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Mega64 posted:Welcome to the Final Fantasy VIII Let's Play! You seem to know rules different in this region. Let's post comments combining your rules and ours. (We call it SA).
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Oct 24, 2015 14:32
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Dingbat cherry aardvark hello. Try advance? Sorry... I think the Random rule was in effect when I wrote that. I'm going to hereby abolish it from the entire thread, because apparently I have the power to do that.
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Oct 24, 2015 16:06
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I really like the music here.
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Oct 24, 2015 17:07
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FoolyCharged posted:Eh, it's easy to say I could do it better god knows how much later, but they could have easily had the guy just say something along the lines of "Welcome to Fisherman's Haven!" and then had Squall think "(So this is FH...)" That is a lot better.
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Oct 25, 2015 01:25
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The_Frag_Man posted:That is a lot better. It might have been better before translation. Probably would have been hard to insert a transparent thought text box.
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Oct 25, 2015 02:13
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FF8 definitely had some parts that were difficult to localize. The note about Timber Maniacs being abbreviated to "Tim Mani" screams "this made sense in Japanese."
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Oct 25, 2015 09:45
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It's the usual old game localization problem--they weren't given access to the right resources or given enough time or maybe there wasn't even enough space to easily allow for variable width fonts, inserting new text boxes, etc. So, instead, they have to match each line with the japanese byte for byte without going bankrupt. Sometimes they'll use compression techniques to get more out of it but you can only get so much that way, if you can't add new text boxes.
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Oct 25, 2015 21:40
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i have a question selphie is normally pretty competent but she really dropped the ball back in the missile base. the win state is to alter the missile error rate and leave..... but at one point you're asked to move one of the missile launchers. wouldn't it be better for her to waste them right then and there, causing a 1/6th reduction in the amount of missiles fired? i get that they were trying to be stealthy and all but come on 'yep, squall, mission accomplished, we put the missiles in place to be launched but don't worry, we increased the chances they'll miss!' 'huh. maybe stop them being launched instead?'
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Oct 25, 2015 21:58
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Kajeesus posted:FF8 definitely had some parts that were difficult to localize. The note about Timber Maniacs being abbreviated to "Tim Mani" screams "this made sense in Japanese." Im sad now we missed out on it being called "Fishy Ho"
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Oct 25, 2015 22:18
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Two Finger posted:i have a question Helping to move the missiles allowed them to destroy the entire base. If they'd taken the time to check and make sure that the Galbadian officer was dead, no missiles would have been launched at all. Sabotaging the error ratio was the backup plan. Note that both "Plan A" and "plan B" were made much easier by the use of stealth.
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Oct 26, 2015 02:16
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yeah i guess that's true just always seemed really weird to me
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Oct 26, 2015 19:29
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Decus posted:It's the usual old game localization problem--they weren't given access to the right resources or given enough time or maybe there wasn't even enough space to easily allow for variable width fonts, inserting new text boxes, etc. So, instead, they have to match each line with the japanese byte for byte without going bankrupt. Sometimes they'll use compression techniques to get more out of it but you can only get so much that way, if you can't add new text boxes. I don't know how true it is but I heard they actually had to play through Japanese FFVIII to get the script for it. I have read other interviews with Square translators of the time so this doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility. It wasn't until after Xenogears they really started giving proper support.
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Two Finger posted:yeah i guess that's true Don't think about it.
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