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What hot hatch do you own?
This poll is closed.
Golf GTI / R / R32 196 0.02%
Impreza WRX / STi 133 0.01%
Mazdaspeed 3 92 0.01%
Veloster Turbo 20 0.00%
Focus ST 149 0.01%
Other Hot Hatch 230 0.02%
Elantra GT 1000001 99.92%
Total: 1000821 votes
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RIP Paul Walker
Feb 26, 2004

Nohearum posted:

What's the most comfortable hot hatch for long highway trips? I'm currently driving a 1997 Civic and the cabin noise at highway speeds is starting to drive me crazy.

How much do you care if it's not hot? My 1.0 Focus is comfortable and impressively quiet on the highway, but far from hot.

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The Prong Song
Sep 7, 2002


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RIP Paul Walker posted:

How much do you care if it's not hot? My 1.0 Focus is comfortable and impressively quiet on the highway, but far from hot.

After disabling the Soundimposter on my FiST, the cabin is surprisingly quiet as well.

Dr.Caligari
May 5, 2005

"Here's a big, beautiful avatar for someone"
How rear seat room difference is there in FoST vs FiST? I've had my FiST about 3 years now and I really like it, but the kids are getting older (7 and 9) and in the rare occasion I have to take all four of us, things are a bit crowded.

If I were to be responsible I would look at a crosstreck or maybe Mazda6. But, I have an hour commute each way to work, so the thought of getting rid of my peppy mariokart makes me kind of sad.

Nohearum
Nov 2, 2013

KakerMix posted:

Going to bet the GTI/R is going to be the most comfortable out of the new ones. They are less harsh than an ST and the seats are much better for cruising. I drove to Michigan and back from Florida in 4 days and had no complaints, and also to Texas from Florida for Quakecon and two other people and we also had no complaints. This was in an MK6 R.

I would imagine the Mercedes AMG CUV would probably be the most comfortable although that's really tall for a hatch.

dissss posted:

I'd say the Audi S3 (if you consider that a hatch)

The GTI is a good all rounder though
I really, really like the Mk7 GTI but I'm terrified by the potential for reliability issues. Unfortunately only experience with VW products was through a friend who had a Mk4 GTI...I swear that car just hated humanity and did everything possible to ruin my friends day. It sounds like the Mk7's are much better behaved, but I still mistrust VW due to that one Mk4. I'll see if I can test drive one, maybe the incentives will be good due to Dieselgate.


RIP Paul Walker posted:

How much do you care if it's not hot? My 1.0 Focus is comfortable and impressively quiet on the highway, but far from hot.
I'm not too much of a horsepower junky since I've spent the last 11 years driving a car with ~115HP. I don't mind having to rev the snot of an engine to get up to highway speeds etc, and I tend to prefer cars that handle well versus pure straight-line speed. How many revs is the 1.0 pulling at 75mph? I'll see if my local dealer has one to test out.

Acky
Sep 30, 2004
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KidDynamite posted:

Those are awesome as gently caress. Good buy.

Got them for a steal too, 300$ for the set. Though one tire has a slight bubble on the sidewall so I'll replace it before I toss them on the car.

RIP Paul Walker
Feb 26, 2004

Nohearum posted:

I'm not too much of a horsepower junky since I've spent the last 11 years driving a car with ~115HP. I don't mind having to rev the snot of an engine to get up to highway speeds etc, and I tend to prefer cars that handle well versus pure straight-line speed. How many revs is the 1.0 pulling at 75mph? I'll see if my local dealer has one to test out.

It's got a tall 6th gear; I want to say under 3000 RPM but I don't recall. I do know at 75 it's quiet and relaxing, same as 55, same as 90.

You should definitely seek one out to try, I really like mine (minus the inconsistent build quality, aka Ford ownership experience). Handling is soft but quite good if you know how to drive properly, it's not fast but there is plenty of torque to lug you around pretty easily, and it's overall quite lovely to bomb around town in. For what I want out of my daily driver, I love it and would not trade it for an ST, but I'm not sure how I'd feel if I didn't have a 330Ci with coilovers and Super Sports sitting around.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Dr.Caligari posted:

How rear seat room difference is there in FoST vs FiST? I've had my FiST about 3 years now and I really like it, but the kids are getting older (7 and 9) and in the rare occasion I have to take all four of us, things are a bit crowded.

If I were to be responsible I would look at a crosstreck or maybe Mazda6. But, I have an hour commute each way to work, so the thought of getting rid of my peppy mariokart makes me kind of sad.

I've never actually ridden in my back seat (Focus ST) or in a FiST, so I can't really compare them, but I regularly take co-workers to lunch in my car, and I expressed concern at the rear-seat room, but everyone who has ever ridden back there says that it's really quite comfy, and they generally prefer to take my car than a co-workers Mustang, or the PT Cruiser convertible (oh god it's all I can do to tell her how horrible her car is, but I continue to somehow manage to shut my mouth about this thing that she somehow loves) and a couple of them prefer the Focus to one of those over-sized Jeeps that is one of the other regular options.

I'm 5'10" and I'd have no problem riding back there for a while, I can't stretch my legs out like in the front seat of course, but it doesn't cramp me uncomfortably.

I know that with the seats in use, the space behind the seat is more than double in the Focus (24 cubic feet vs. 10) compared to the Fiesta.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
I use my Fiesta as an uber car and don't have any complaints from passengers. It's surprisingly drivable with the seat scooted way forward and I'm not short. (6' 1")

Mcqueen
Feb 26, 2007

'HEY MOM, I'M DONE WITH MY SEGMENT!'


Soiled Meat
Sold my ST today. It was an absolutely fantastic car for the money. Almost too good, on the verge of boring easy to drive fast.

Anyway, I'll miss hanging the rear out and making dumb blow off sounds with you, car.

Mcqueen fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Oct 25, 2015

ltugo
Aug 10, 2004

If there was a grading scale for torture I would give sleep deprivation and waterboarding a C-.
I may be getting a bump in salary soon, which means I may soon be in a position to make a vanity purchase to upgrade from my 2012 Sonic. What's the board's opinion of a loaded Kia Forte5 SX? Every online review seems to say it's a great value: Lots of equipment, good power, iffy steering. I'd be using it for a daily commuter (20 minutes each way), and kid transport (ages 6 and 10).

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
Itugo, if you are just looking for a nicer car than the Sonic, it's fine. If you want actual performance, it's not nearly as good as anything else in the hot hatch category.

The FoST back seat, at least on the ST3, is easier to get in to than my 128, but has about the same amount of interior room, if not less.

The Prong Song
Sep 7, 2002


WHITE
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MATTER
Well, after doing a Mountune intake kit, Cobb RMM + intercooler + hard pipes, and OTS Stg.2 map, I am happy to report the FiST will spin the front tires at the top of first and second. Time for a diff.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
JB1 went on the GTI today along with a little more aggressive map 6 setup. Car should be a little north of 300whp and weigh a little under 3000lb with a full tank. Not bad for a DD. Time to stop modding it, at least until its out of warranty and there are tunes for the Golf-R turbo swap - which is supposed to be good for north of 400hp.

joe944
Jan 31, 2004

What does not destroy me makes me stronger.

BlackMK4 posted:

JB1 went on the GTI today along with a little more aggressive map 6 setup. Car should be a little north of 300whp and weigh a little under 3000lb with a full tank. Not bad for a DD. Time to stop modding it, at least until its out of warranty and there are tunes for the Golf-R turbo swap - which is supposed to be good for north of 400hp.

Nice. It's going to be hard to not mod the R, but I need to have at least one warrantied DD. Stock performance is pretty adequate, although knowing there's lots of power on tap makes it tough!

Had to get the poor wrx towed home while I save pennies for the re-build, and the upgrades... Thinking about getting a full race efr7163 kit in addition to the built short block and some other supporting goodies. Should be able to get around 400whp on e85 on a mustang dyno.

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe
I'm having tons of fun with my R stock. Can't really afford to void the warranty on a 40k car atm. Managed to eek 29 mpg out of the last tank.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
What sort of rear-wheel drive hatchbacks are out there? They don't even need to be hot. People keep throwing out Subaru this and that, but I'm 6'7" and I have never comfortably fit in a Subaru, even in the passenger seat.

edit: I have question regret; this is an easily-googled thing, ignore me.

scuz fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Oct 29, 2015

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.
Subaru's are not RWD

The 1 series is the only RWD hatch I can think of but if you can't fit in an Impreza you certainly won't be able to for into that

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe

dissss posted:

Subaru's are not RWD

The 1 series is the only RWD hatch I can think of but if you can't fit in an Impreza you certainly won't be able to for into that
Right, I was just using them as an example of something that's too small for me. I've never actually sat in a BMW in my life.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003







I mean it is a hatch, not a trunk :haw:

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!
Is the BMW X1 rwd? I suppose that's kind of a hatchback, but the you'll need to do something about the truck ride height.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





IOwnCalculus posted:



I mean it is a hatch, not a trunk :haw:

Also, Fox body Mustangs!

Calidus
Oct 31, 2011

Stand back I'm going to try science!

scuz posted:

What sort of rear-wheel drive hatchbacks are out there? They don't even need to be hot. People keep throwing out Subaru this and that, but I'm 6'7" and I have never comfortably fit in a Subaru, even in the passenger seat.

edit: I have question regret; this is an easily-googled thing, ignore me.

Telescoping steering wheels have made buying cars as a tall person 10x easier than it was in the past.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe

The Locator posted:

Also, Fox body Mustangs!
:doh: Forgot about those! They're so cheap and prolific round these parts (for example). The interior looks as though it was designed by Fischer-Price, but I can change all that.

scuz fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Oct 29, 2015

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
Renault 5 Turbo. Not a very practical (or plentiful) hot hatch though.

blk
Dec 19, 2009
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scuz posted:

What sort of rear-wheel drive hatchbacks are out there? They don't even need to be hot. People keep throwing out Subaru this and that, but I'm 6'7" and I have never comfortably fit in a Subaru, even in the passenger seat.

edit: I have question regret; this is an easily-googled thing, ignore me.

I asked myself the same question when I was car shopping in late 2006/early 2007and ended up with one of these:

Don't even think about parroting the Top Gear 'hairdressers car' joke; it's tired and moderately homophobic.

Not hot or pretty from the front, but very spacious inside for four adults and could haul a hell of a lot of stuff. The pano roof was awesome.

That said, I was going about this the wrong way by making a list of bulletpoints like RWD, Hatchback and should've bought something more sporty. I think I ended up paying 13,500 back then; I wonder what else I could've got for that money at the time.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
Well that's a very pretty automobile, but my price range is in the low 4 digits :3:

Optimus Subprime
Mar 26, 2005

Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?

Isn't the Cadillac CTS-V coupe technically a hatchback?

Aargh
Sep 8, 2004

The BMW 1 series? Did you guys get the hatch?

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

Aargh posted:

The BMW 1 series? Did you guys get the hatch?

No because I'd probably own one if we did.

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe
There are basically no rwd hatches in the US. The Us market is dominated by suvs and fwd appliances. If you want a hatch you have to take what you can get. At best AWD is about all you can get here. That being said.

WINTER MODE ENGAGE.



TSW Snettertons in 17x7 with 235/45/17 Continental Winterextreme SI. Wheels are surprisingly light. The entire setup feels a good 8-10 pounds lighter per corner. Will be interesting to see how it affects my mileage.

veedubfreak fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Oct 31, 2015

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

fknlo posted:

No because I'd probably own one if we did.

Not if you were 6 foot 7 - I feel cramped in one and I'm 6 nothing and scrawny

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe

dissss posted:

Not if you were 6 foot 7 - I feel cramped in one and I'm 6 nothing and scrawny

Being average height is pretty cool.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

dissss posted:

Not if you were 6 foot 7 - I feel cramped in one and I'm 6 nothing and scrawny

Yeah, I'm not a freak of nature.

joe944
Jan 31, 2004

What does not destroy me makes me stronger.
I think some of you are mistaking those fastbacks for hatchbacks.

Now that I think about it, I've actually never owned a sedan.

Drove my parents hatchback 87 lebaron for a few years.
Bought a 84 944 and drove that for another 10 or so, fastback.
DD'd an 04 mazdaspeed miata for 3 years.
Drove my 14 wrx hatchback for 2 years until she blew. Built engine and have my eye on an efr7163 kit coming soon...
16 golf R for a week and a half.

Apparently I like turbo cars that are not sedans.

joe944 fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Oct 31, 2015

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe

veedubfreak posted:

There are basically no rwd hatches in the US. The Us market is dominated by suvs and fwd appliances. If you want a hatch you have to take what you can get. At best AWD is about all you can get here. That being said.

WINTER MODE ENGAGE.



TSW Snettertons in 17x7 with 235/45/17 Continental Winterextreme SI. Wheels are surprisingly light. The entire setup feels a good 8-10 pounds lighter per corner. Will be interesting to see how it affects my mileage.
That's a swell lookin automobile!

So you're saying I need to convert something I like to RWD? OK!

fknlo posted:

Yeah, I'm not a freak of nature.
In the words of Stephen Merchent, who is the same height as me, "I've been a lot of heights, and 6'4" is the best."

Eelface
Jul 23, 2002

I somehow remembered a close customer while doing retail in college owned a ford dealership and emailed him about an RS. Can get one for MSRP now is the white or neon blue question that will haunt me

Night Danger Moose
Jan 5, 2004

YO SOY FIESTA

Eelface posted:

I somehow remembered a close customer while doing retail in college owned a ford dealership and emailed him about an RS. Can get one for MSRP now is the white or neon blue question that will haunt me

That blue is an amazing colour. Don't pass it up.

DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.

Aargh posted:

The BMW 1 series? Did you guys get the hatch?

We get the X1, which was basically a 1 hatch on stilts until the new 2016 model switched to being a big Countryman.

No stick in any configuration but an RWD X135 with the M-sport package would be pretty nice.

Always the E36 compact, though, if you want cheap RWD hatch.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
They are basically worth nothing, the S50/S52 drops right in and E30/E28 LSDs bolt in.

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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

DEUCE SLUICE posted:

Always the E36 compact, though, if you want cheap RWD hatch.



I've long liked these but never see any locally.

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