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Hashtag Banterzone posted:
VW would loving dance in the streets if all that came of this was having to pay a few million in damages to small claims settlements that they didn't even bother to send a lawyer to. edit: which is the whole point of class action suits in the first place. It creates a situation where companies can be held liable for loving up and/or screwing customers in a way that isn't dependent upon the customer having the resources (even if that's just having time to go down to small claims court) or inclination to file a suit. Otherwise the math would lean pretty heavily in favor of doing whatever the gently caress and just paying off the small percentage of people who actually have the lawyers and money to file a real suit, and digging in your pockets for change to throw to the people who can only afford small claims but are still stubborn enough to go through with it. edit: CommieGIR posted:Don't worry. Really, the VWs are doing nowhere near the damage the GOP is doing to the environment. It's already been said, but just because other, worse poo poo happens doesn't mean you can't be pissed off at other, lesser bad or stupid poo poo. My wife's purse got stolen a few years back. Just because some other women that day got murdered or raped doesn't mean she couldn't be pissed that her poo poo was taken or feel upset about the whole situation. gently caress the GOP's anti-environmental bullshit, but gently caress VW too. Cyrano4747 fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Oct 26, 2015 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:VW would loving dance in the streets if all that came of this was having to pay a few million in damages to small claims settlements that they didn't even bother to send a lawyer to. It's not like the class action lawsuits would go away just because a bunch of people sued in small claims court. If I thought that VW owed me $20 I would probably just join the class action suit. I would do the same if I was claiming $1m in damages as I don't have the money to fight a big case like that. But $1,000 to $3,000 seems like it might be a sweet spot where it makes sense to go to small claims court. Also do you really think VW wouldn't send anyone to fight in small claims court? I'm hoping that myturbodiesel or another forum will add a new FAQ called "How to sue VW" and I can just print that off.
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Cyrano4747 posted:It's already been said, but just because other, worse poo poo happens doesn't mean you can't be pissed off at other, lesser bad or stupid poo poo. My wife's purse got stolen a few years back. Just because some other women that day got murdered or raped doesn't mean she couldn't be pissed that her poo poo was taken or feel upset about the whole situation. I was more lamenting that we can't seem to stave off environmental damage because fucktards keep removing our environmental protections. But yes, gently caress VW too. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Oct 26, 2015 |
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:
It happens all the time. If some guy is suing you in some county in the middle of gently caress-all for a couple thousand and your lawyer costs a few hundred per hour (plus travel expenses) it's frequently a lot cheaper to just no-contest it. edit: some quick googling shows that in California only 40% of cases that went to small claims court were contested, and that includes everything from angry geeks suing Apple to some guy trying to get his neighbor to fix his lawn after a dog digs it up. I strongly suspect that the corporate defendants are a lot less likely to show up than the dude having a throw-down with someone in his neighborhood. ALso note that that is CA. I'd love to find statistics on what percentage of corporate defendants bother in, say, LA or SF vs. Amarillo, TX. And no, I wasn't saying that a class action wasn't going to happen because small claims, I was saying that small claims is such an easy buy-out for VW that they'd be thrilled with small claims settlements. It's a cheap out. edit: lol, also from the California numbers: 41% where white, 80% were english speaking, and 50% had a university degree. Basically people with the education to know when they're getting hosed and that there is a recourse and the economic position where they can take a day off work. edit x2: haha holy poo poo reading some more a full 21% of the english speaking litigants (and a whopping 28% of the white litigants) had a graduate degree or higher. Cyrano4747 fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Oct 26, 2015 |
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They had an old Beetle on Garage Squad last night and now the common-law-missus wants a beetle. Cool, right? Except I have no idea what's separates a good Beetle from a bad one, which years to avoid/seek, and common problems besides things like rust and major frame damage etc. Any guidance for a Beetle novice?
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Oct 27, 2015 13:49
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Don't. EDIT: Unless you make it look like this. 
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Oct 27, 2015 13:59
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Dick Trauma posted:Don't.  Anyways I kinda figured that they're all nearly identical (excluding the New Beetle) so no big deal, I guess.
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scuz posted:Anyways I kinda figured that they're all nearly identical (excluding the New Beetle) so no big deal, I guess. Don't say that to a Beetle fan- they really sniffy about the shape of light clusters and bootlid handles
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spog posted:Don't say that to a Beetle fan- they really sniffy about the shape of light clusters and bootlid handles No, do it, on the samba, for science.
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Fart Pipe posted:No, do it, on the samba, for science. spog posted:Don't say that to a Beetle fan- they really sniffy about the shape of light clusters and bootlid handles
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spog posted:Don't say that to a Beetle fan- they really sniffy about the shape of light clusters and bootlid handles Heh, Im the nerd that can tell you the differences between years all the way up to about 74  If it's just a cheapo weekend car for her, buy whatever. If you want it to hold value the older the better. I have a rusty 58 sunroof in my garage that I pulled out of a field simply because I wanted a project it's an awesome year/model.
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veedubfreak posted:Heh, Im the nerd that can tell you the differences between years all the way up to about 74 ...HOW rusty?
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Don't buy a year that has coveted taillight covers. My Dad's neighbor would have her's stolen all the time, until my dad made her makeshift ones out of tape and red plastic lighting filter.
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Oct 27, 2015 18:12
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scuz posted:...HOW rusty? Body is fine, has the usual spots, but the heater channels are toast since it lived during the time of salted roads.
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Coming up fast on 50k 2014 Passat with the 1.8l tsi. Just go to the dealership for the 50k service package or is it time to start looking for a reliable Indy. Also how do I find a reliable Indy mechanic?
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Audi is testing a new RS4. They put the drivetrain into a new S4 (you can see the tacked on fender flares and the wheels are those of the current RS4). http://www.autoblog.com/2015/10/29/audi-rs4-avant-spy-shots/ 
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Mr. Apollo posted:Audi is testing a new RS4. They put the drivetrain into a new S4 (you can see the tacked on fender flares and the wheels are those of the current RS4). That is a sexy car, which means we won't get it here. Stupid soccer moms and their SUVs. Wagons are awesome. 
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Oct 31, 2015 03:24
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I guess I'm bad for this but I have a hard time keeping track of which fast Audi is which these days. It was simpler when there only ever seemed to be one RS*-badged model on sale at a time.
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StandardVC10 posted:I guess I'm bad for this but I have a hard time keeping track of which fast Audi is which these days. It was simpler when there only ever seemed to be one RS*-badged model on sale at a time. Vw and Audi both now have S lines, which are just body mods. R designates an actual performance. Unfornunately the US doesn't really get many R models, cause suvs.
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StandardVC10 posted:I guess I'm bad for this but I have a hard time keeping track of which fast Audi is which these days. It was simpler when there only ever seemed to be one RS*-badged model on sale at a time. S-line = A models with body kit and different wheels S = faster than A models RS = faster than S models plus = modifier to indicate it's faster than the regular models of that line (i.e. S8 plus, TTRS plus, R8 V10 plus) Mr. Apollo fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Oct 31, 2015 |
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Oct 31, 2015 16:08
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Mr. Apollo posted:A = regular This part I get. It's just that there's like a bunch of RS cars now and they all look kind of the same and have similar, but not identical powertrains and not all of them are sold in the USA.
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Ah, yeah I see what you mean. Like the SQ5 which is sold in Europe with a turbo diesel V6 and in North America with a supercharged gasoline V6 but otherwise look identical.
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StandardVC10 posted:This part I get. It's just that there's like a bunch of RS cars now and they all look kind of the same and have similar, but not identical powertrains and not all of them are sold in the USA. It's pretty simple RS3 = fastest A3 RS4 = fastest A4 RS5 = fastest A5 RS6 = fastest A6 RS7 = fastest A7 Just ignore the SUVs, they add nothing of value
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The 3 liter was buggered too. So there goes the Cayenne, and a bunch of Audis. http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/11/02/epa-diesel-suv-volkswagen-audi-porsche/75044132/
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My parents have one of the diesel Cayennes, it's pretty quick for what it is. My BMW 335D was loving plagued by emissions problems. BMW still refuses to cover the carbon buildup issue. Basically, US emissioned diesels are hosed.
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BlackMK4 posted:Basically, US emissioned diesels are hosed. Diesel is dead now anyway - Euro 6 is pretty much just as strict
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RIP diesel, your bullshit marketing claims of AMAZING LOW END TORQUE will not be missed.
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Jealous Cow posted:The 3 liter was buggered too. So there goes the Cayenne, and a bunch of Audis. next will be the V8 and V12 TDIs, which means CHEAP TOUAREGS AND Q7s FOR EVERYONE!!!!
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Pryor on Fire posted:RIP diesel, your bullshit marketing claims of AMAZING LOW END TORQUE will not be missed. ....uhhh...what? They do have amazing low end torque.
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CommieGIR posted:....uhhh...what? They do have amazing low end torque. Good mid range, no low end whatsoever (at least is the smaller VWs)
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neckbeard posted:next will be the V8 and V12 TDIs, which means CHEAP TOUAREGS AND Q7s FOR EVERYONE!!!! Oh god I hope this trickles down to the entirety of VAG and their reputation gets trashed. Here's to hoping the idiots around the scandal are enough to affect Porsche 911 pricing. A man can dream.
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dissss posted:Good mid range, no low end whatsoever (at least is the smaller VWs)  Nope. The VNT equipped CRD TDIs had awesome low end torque. Like, right off the line crazy good low end torque
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CommieGIR posted:
That isn't how I'd describe them at all (and I've had the misfortune to spend a lot of time in a lot of different small diesel cars)
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dissss posted:That isn't how I'd describe them at all (and I've had the misfortune to spend a lot of time in a lot of different small diesel cars) I love my small diesels.
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CommieGIR posted:
CommieGIR posted:I love my small diesels. Can confirm 15' tdi has a ton of torque low end, ok mid range, and what feels like nothing over 4k rpms.
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Lord of Garbagemen posted:Can confirm 15' tdi has a ton of torque low end, ok mid range, and what feels like nothing over 4k rpms. This. My 11 pulled like a train from 1500 all the way til it fell flat at 4k. Meanwhile the R doesn't seem to fully spool until over 3k, but keeps going until almost 7k.
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Lord of Garbagemen posted:Can confirm 15' tdi has a ton of torque low end, ok mid range, and what feels like nothing over 4k rpms. Yeah, the 2010 TDI has amazing low end torque, so much that driving in the rain could be interesting if you didn't start from 2nd or slip the clutch in first, because it would just start spinning the wheels and would make the Traction Control go nuts. But yeah, over 4k, it still responds, but its just not as peppy. Enough power to pass.
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You can spin the wheels shifting the ancient 2.5L too and guess what they accelerate faster than the TDI. There is no amazing torque, it's horseshit.
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The wheels hop in my lovely 2.0L MK4, even after the transmission mount bushing upgrades. 3 more years... 3 more years of payments and then I can sell it. Can't wait.
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Out with my old VW and in with a new one!
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