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Synnr
Dec 30, 2009

pwnyXpress posted:

Well, yeah, especially the way I play it.

My Zoroastrian family tree is a rhombus, but sometimes you gotta cut it up to sneak them traits in!

e; Hmm didn't work this time, what the heck.

Synnr fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Nov 8, 2015

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catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Crisis of the Confederation does the space feudallism thing, but as a CK2 mod connoisseur I cannot recommend it. Instead of jumping straight into cool space feudalism, the creator insisted that the mod be about the transition from modern government into space feudalism. So first you have to go through a clunky approximation of 20th-century style political crises, and at some point space feudalism might kick in.

I've been trying to figure out how to play CotC but it feels really clunky to me. And I still haven't figured out what Operations are supposed to be, just that a war gets declared and a dozen of them pop off. Also I kept on being switched from Neo-Socialist to Terran Republican and back every couple months. I think it might be a bit too ambitious for its own good.

space kobold
Oct 3, 2009


Ugh, really? You can't host your own CK2 mod on github? The whole point of making this dumb Kobold mod is so others can contribute and/or work it into their own equally dumb fantasy mods.

We need a :paradox: in the same vein as :riot:

In other news I kind of sort of made a mod that adds a kobold/draconic culture + events. I'm also adding undead kobolds now too BECAUSE I CAN AND NONE OF YOU CAN STOP ME. This is now the third game I've modded kobolds into in my spare time. I have a problem. Help.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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All I want to do is usurp Andalusia. Why can this goddamn Caliph not ever be at peace? I've been waiting for more than ten loving years and I need to get the kingdom to reduce my vassals to a safe level.

cock hero flux
Apr 17, 2011



catlord posted:

And I still haven't figured out what Operations are supposed to be
Operations are military officers within the country you are fighting declaring war on you with the ships under their command. Basically the President or whoever is at the top declares war/has war declared on them and then various Admirals under them start Operations against the enemy. If one of the Admirals reaches 100% warscore in their Operation they capture the enemy leader automatically, ending the war, and get lots of prestige and bonuses. If you manage to get 100% warscore against one of these Admirals you can force them to surrender, which gives them a big penalty to their Martial stat and some other things for a while and kicks them and their fleet out of the war, but doesn't end the actual, larger war.

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?

cock hero flux posted:

Operations are military officers within the country you are fighting declaring war on you with the ships under their command. Basically the President or whoever is at the top declares war/has war declared on them and then various Admirals under them start Operations against the enemy. If one of the Admirals reaches 100% warscore in their Operation they capture the enemy leader automatically, ending the war, and get lots of prestige and bonuses. If you manage to get 100% warscore against one of these Admirals you can force them to surrender, which gives them a big penalty to their Martial stat and some other things for a while and kicks them and their fleet out of the war, but doesn't end the actual, larger war.

Ah, ok. I checked through several developer diaries and didn't see what they were. I also couldn't seem to declare operations back where I figured it would explain what they were. It's an interesting mod for sure, but somewhat confusing even for someone who's not a total beginner at CK2.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X

Jedit posted:

All I want to do is usurp Andalusia. Why can this goddamn Caliph not ever be at peace? I've been waiting for more than ten loving years and I need to get the kingdom to reduce my vassals to a safe level.

You literally have to keep a daily eye on him because Caliphs are at peace like three days every ten years. Peace really is not how Caliphs roll.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

Eric the Mauve posted:

You literally have to keep a daily eye on him because Caliphs are at peace like three days every ten years. Peace really is not how Caliphs roll.

Someone masochistic for major grief over the internet coming their way could make a mod called: "Islam overhauled: A Religion of Peace."

forkis
Sep 15, 2011

space kobold posted:

Ugh, really? You can't host your own CK2 mod on github? The whole point of making this dumb Kobold mod is so others can contribute and/or work it into their own equally dumb fantasy mods.

We need a :paradox: in the same vein as :riot:

In other news I kind of sort of made a mod that adds a kobold/draconic culture + events. I'm also adding undead kobolds now too BECAUSE I CAN AND NONE OF YOU CAN STOP ME. This is now the third game I've modded kobolds into in my spare time. I have a problem. Help.

I think you got the drama a bit garbled. They can't stop you from hosting your mod on github, and it's allowed as long as you don't distribute the link outside the mod team. However if you do actually distribute the github link publically then you're not allowed to have a thread for, or even acknowledge the existence of your mod on the Paradox forums.

Basically: it seems like unless you're willing to go along with the charade that modding hasn't really changed since the year of our lord two thousand and nine, the Paradox forums probably aren't gonna be a good fit.

forkis fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Nov 9, 2015

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Tbh, I'd quite like if there was more discussion of mods here on SA, if only because, again, more convenient for me~

Ofaloaf
Feb 15, 2013

Deceitful Penguin posted:

Tbh, I'd quite like if there was more discussion of mods here on SA, if only because, again, more convenient for me~

I have been told that all mod links outside the Paradox forums are illegal versions of a mod and presumably therefore anyone who linked a mod elsewhere would be subject to fines, jail time and possibly transported to a penal colony.

Groogy
Jun 12, 2014

Tanks are kinda wasted on invading the USSR

Ofaloaf posted:

and possibly transported to a penal colony.

Also known as fetching me Coffee.
Ofaloaf, chop chop!

space kobold
Oct 3, 2009


The paradox forums don't deserve my silly mod about kobolds anyway. Once I get an alternate custom portrait set from an artist buddy of mine I'll post it up here for you all to enjoy (mock me for).

Currently using a considerable amount of borrowed assets from other mods to fill in the art gaps. Without permission. :ssh:

edit: Oh, hello there Groogy.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Ofaloaf posted:

I have been told that all mod links outside the Paradox forums are illegal versions of a mod and presumably therefore anyone who linked a mod elsewhere would be subject to fines, jail time and possibly transported to a penal colony.
That's some sort of amazing that is.

I'm trying to think of an adequately dumb analogy for this and it's not working. Cripes.

oh my loving god they want to lock down the wiki to "illegal users of our mods"

i dont even

Also why doesn't my stupid kinsman in Ireland now want to become my vassal, just because I'm not his de jure ruler? Would making him a tributary help or was that just some nonsense I heard way back when? Should I maybe just bribe him or wait until I'm an Emperor?

Getting the rest of the Kingdom of Ireland without him would be a hassle tbh, so any of those would be preferable.

edit: lol fucker just needed a bribe, was still a bit hissy over me being a murderous adulterer. It's not my fault my kinsmen are stupid motherfuckers who keep trying to let other dynasties inherit counties and never have any kids until I pick seduction!

btw, running elective with the kingdom of Navarra title as your main means you can basically laugh your way to through the system. If only I could set it to tanistry for max hilarity, alas.

gently caress

Why the hell do all created titles default to gavelkind instead of my laws? or at least the ones my stupid vassal has? now the fucker is running that instead of Primo like he had OR elective like me
loving dumb

Deceitful Penguin fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Nov 9, 2015

Synnr
Dec 30, 2009
Man it's hard to find a wife who isn't either at high risk due to multiple lovers or already has herpes in the Byzantine empire. I wish I had one of those little charts showing me where it started so I know who to blame.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011

space kobold posted:

In other news I kind of sort of made a mod that adds a kobold/draconic culture + events. I'm also adding undead kobolds now too BECAUSE I CAN AND NONE OF YOU CAN STOP ME. This is now the third game I've modded kobolds into in my spare time. I have a problem. Help.

good

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X

Jedit posted:

All I want to do is usurp Andalusia. Why can this goddamn Caliph not ever be at peace? I've been waiting for more than ten loving years and I need to get the kingdom to reduce my vassals to a safe level.

Back on this issue--I REALLY wish the "You Can Usurp a Title!" alert would pop up only when you can actually usurp the goddamned title, not merely when you own enough counties. For exactly these sorts of situations.

Hiveminded
Aug 26, 2014

space kobold posted:

In other news I kind of sort of made a mod that adds a kobold/draconic culture + events. I'm also adding undead kobolds now too BECAUSE I CAN AND NONE OF YOU CAN STOP ME. This is now the third game I've modded kobolds into in my spare time. I have a problem. Help.

this is a bad idea, you do have a problem, lizard idolaters cannot be helped, Lord have mercy, etc

Synnr
Dec 30, 2009
Is there no way to regret a viceroyalty? I was hoping to do something about my lands when my previous dude died and it reverted, but I guess I got dropped into one and didn't get a chance to actually sort out my duchy issue.

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
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Ofaloaf posted:

I have been told that all mod links outside the Paradox forums are illegal versions of a mod and presumably therefore anyone who linked a mod elsewhere would be subject to fines, jail time and possibly transported to a penal colony.

God damnit Paradox, you have some of the most retarded people running your forums. "You have to hide your download links from the p-p-pirates!" :qq:

EDIT: Also banning github but letting AGOT keep all their "illegal links" is even more retarded. Shows your personal bias at least.

TheCIASentMe
Jul 11, 2003

I'll get you! Just you wait and see!

Synnr posted:

Is there no way to regret a viceroyalty? I was hoping to do something about my lands when my previous dude died and it reverted, but I guess I got dropped into one and didn't get a chance to actually sort out my duchy issue.

Do you mean you were a count and got given a viceroyalty? If so, no you're up poo poo creek.

If you mean you're the emperor and gave out the viceroyalty, it should have come back to you on the person you granted the viceroyalty's death. If your dude died, you should still get the viceroyalty back on the granted person's death. I guess what I'm trying to say is either be patient or start stabbin.

Bloodly
Nov 3, 2008

Not as strong as you'd expect.

Deceitful Penguin posted:

That's some sort of amazing that is.

I'm trying to think of an adequately dumb analogy for this and it's not working. Cripes.

oh my loving god they want to lock down the wiki to "illegal users of our mods"

i dont even

That's...distressing. I used to be a member, but when the account changes went through and when their forums changed, I didn't keep up. It's kinda annoying. It was frustrating enough making the hop to Steam from Gamersgate.

Synnr
Dec 30, 2009

TheCIASentMe posted:

Do you mean you were a count and got given a viceroyalty? If so, no you're up poo poo creek.

If you mean you're the emperor and gave out the viceroyalty, it should have come back to you on the person you granted the viceroyalty's death. If your dude died, you should still get the viceroyalty back on the granted person's death. I guess what I'm trying to say is either be patient or start stabbin.

Yeah I'm a count, so that sucks. Stupid duke gave my wife herpes so I went to war and took his land, then the emperor dumped a viceroyalty on me. I'm never going to get switched to primogeniture at this rate.

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
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It is really loving hard coming up with Tuniit-Norse mixed names. Especially when you have to ignore important letters like "b", "d", "e", "f", and "h" :negative:

I mean, Aariak sorta looks like Eric and Patuktuq looks like Patrick, but does Paltur give off the same vibe as Balder?

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?

Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

It is really loving hard coming up with Tuniit-Norse mixed names. Especially when you have to ignore important letters like "b", "d", "e", "f", and "h" :negative:

I mean, Aariak sorta looks like Eric and Patuktuq looks like Patrick, but does Paltur give off the same vibe as Balder?

Well, I mean, I'd accept it.

Aariak sounds like a character from a Conan story. And man, I wish I could make maps and there was more information on Hyboria, because a Conan mod would be awesome.

Pity Party Animal
Jul 23, 2006

Ofaloaf posted:

I have been told that all mod links outside the Paradox forums are illegal versions of a mod and presumably therefore anyone who linked a mod elsewhere would be subject to fines, jail time and possibly transported to a penal colony.

I see the CEO has gone full piracy-retard again.

Snatch Duster
Feb 20, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

It is really loving hard coming up with Tuniit-Norse mixed names. Especially when you have to ignore important letters like "b", "d", "e", "f", and "h" :negative:

I mean, Aariak sorta looks like Eric and Patuktuq looks like Patrick, but does Paltur give off the same vibe as Balder?

just use english names, gently caress it.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Patrick is a Latin name though. Patricius deriving from patrician. Not very Norse.

A few good Norse names:

Masculine:
-Ívarr
-Hrafn (Raven)
-Bjarni (Bear)
-Björn (Bear)
-Birgir
-Stígr (Literally trail or path but as a name it means "wanderer")
-Snorri
-Skúli
-Gísli
-Mörðr (Weasel)
-Kjartan (Possibly derived from Muirchertach, the name of an Irish king who supposedly had Icelandic descendants through his enslaved daughter)
-Úlfr (Wolf)
-Hjálmarr (Helmet)
-Örn (Eagle)
-Arnar (Eagle)
-Haukur (Hawk)
-Orri (Grouse)
-Einarr
-Geir (spear)
-Hrólfr
-Njáll
-Gunnarr (Warrior. inserting Gunn, which means "battle", in front of other names is also pretty common. Gunnbjörn, Gunnþór Gunnúlfr etc.)

Feminine:
-Urðr (Fate)
-Verðandi (Present)
-Skuld (Future or debt.)
-Harpa (Wave)
-Bylgja (Wave)
-Alda (Wave)
-Ósk (Wish)
-Guðrun (Godrune)
-Hildr (Battle. Quite common a later half of a combined name. Úlfhildr, Gunnhildr. etc.)
-Frigg
-Freyja
-Fulla (Bountiful)
-Auðr (Wealth/Prosperity)
-Ilmr (Scent)
-Hnoss (Treasure)
-Skaði (Harm)
-Þrúðr (Strength)
-Herja (Devistate)
-Brynja (Armor)
-Eir (Mercy)

A lot of those might already be in the game files though.

FreudianSlippers fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Nov 9, 2015

Alikchi
Aug 18, 2010

Thumbs up I agree

Ah geez I think HIP added a special Lunatic mouth or something

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

Synnr posted:

Man it's hard to find a wife who isn't either at high risk due to multiple lovers or already has herpes in the Byzantine empire. I wish I had one of those little charts showing me where it started so I know who to blame.

I think one prolific seducer gave my entire kingdom the herp.

I guess it's pretty accurate :shrug:

Edit: it would be pretty cool to have ck2 be a medieval std simulator, being able to trace how stds spread through a std lineage

Famethrowa fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Nov 9, 2015

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
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FreudianSlippers posted:

Patrick is a Latin name though. Patricius deriving from patrician. Not very Norse.

Yeah, well Ireland is closer to Iceland than Norway. I guess I should really call it a celtic-Norse-Tuniit blend, with a larger emphasis on the Norse-Tuniit.

FreudianSlippers posted:

A lot of those might already be in the game files though.

They are.

Snatch Duster posted:

just use english names, gently caress it.

Hmm... an intriguing solution but :fuckoff:

Alikchi posted:

Ah geez I think HIP added a special Lunatic mouth or something


:gonk:

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Why is it impossible to create the Kingdom of Leon?

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Looks like you either don't have the cash or the prestige.

chippocrates
Feb 20, 2013

Jedit posted:



Why is it impossible to create the Kingdom of Leon?

Isn't this a decision now? You destroy Asturias to make Leon.

Synnr
Dec 30, 2009

Famethrowa posted:

I think one prolific seducer gave my entire kingdom the herp.

I guess it's pretty accurate :shrug:

Edit: it would be pretty cool to have ck2 be a medieval std simulator, being able to trace how stds spread through a std lineage

In my case various people had seduction, there were a lot of women with 3 lovers and every single courtier I had has seemingly been seduced by the same rear end in a top hat from rhodes.

I'm pretty the empress was in a non-stop gross out comedy with nude dudes in every closet and flowering pot though. Poor woman.

Also as someone not in charge viceroyalties blow so hard, I'm going to stab the emperor and put my wife on the throne. I'm tired of this prick taking my dudes and what not away from me.

e; I wish the war focus let you duel dudes trying to/seducing your wife. That would rock.

Synnr fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Nov 10, 2015

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X

Synnr posted:

e; I wish the war focus let you duel dudes trying to/seducing your wife. That would rock.

I'm pretty sure if someone is caught cucking you he automatically becomes your rival and can be dueled (if he meets the other dueling requirements). But spoilers: it doesn't matter what your Personal Combat Score is or that you're 31 and he's 63, you will lose and he will kill you. Every. Time.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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SlothfulCobra posted:

Looks like you either don't have the cash or the prestige.

I know, but I didn't get the pop-up icon telling me I could create it if I did either.

Dallan Invictus
Oct 11, 2007

The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes, look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.

chippocrates posted:

Isn't this a decision now? You destroy Asturias to make Leon.

Yes, this is the issue. The creation condition tooltip isn't clear but it basically means "Leon has to have had a previous holder", and assuming you're starting from 769 that can't happen until someone who holds the Kingdom of Asturias creates Leon using the decision.

Walton Simons
May 16, 2010

ELECTRONIC OLD MEN RUNNING THE WORLD

Eric the Mauve posted:

Back on this issue--I REALLY wish the "You Can Usurp a Title!" alert would pop up only when you can actually usurp the goddamned title, not merely when you own enough counties. For exactly these sorts of situations.

Agreed, it's really annoying and sort of defeats the object of having an alert.

Haven't played since before Horse Lords and the alert telling me which weak claims I can press is a godsend, though.

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Shnooks
Mar 24, 2007

I'M BEING BORN D:
I spent like an hour trying to Usurp a title, except the guy was never at peace, and then I don't know someone died and I couldn't usurp it anymore :( Stop playin' games with me, CK2

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