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Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug
https://streamable.com/wjjz

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LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
https://vid.me/vSxM

https://vid.me/yvkL

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

1st AD posted:

Weidman has been training there forever though. Ronda has like half a decade of bad habits to unlearn.

True, but I would argue that footwork and chasing down a fighter correctly are two of the more coach-able aspects of MMA and striking in general. You're not going to teach a fighter how to be a BJJ black belt in 6 months or how to go from being a pure grappler to a world class boxer, but you sure as poo poo could coach her to cut an angle and key off someone's shoulder to slip a punch. It wouldn't be easy but that was an ugly as poo poo performance and imo she'd be better off improving that than trying another tard rush.

ninety
Mar 13, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo

(and can't post for 4 years!)

colonel_korn posted:

I know people were talking a lot about Silva/Weidman and GSP/Serra, but the fight this actually kind of reminded me of is when Faber got KO'd by Mike Brown. I think its the combination of a longtime champ who doesn't look like anyone can touch them, a somewhat respected but kind of unremarkable challenger, and the champ getting frustrated and doing stupid stuff leading to a big KO



It's not a perfect analogy obviously but it's the one that seems most similar to me. I guess we'll see if Ronda loses the rematch by decision. No word yet on whether Holly smells like raspberries or tastes like rum though.

The springboard kamehameha elbow technique will shine someday

UnfurledSails
Sep 1, 2011


Okay, thank you so much. That's pretty much exactly what I wanted, Benny Hill included.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

ninety posted:

The springboard kamehameha elbow technique will shine someday

Throughout the Joanna fight I kept regaling my wife with the story of Mike Thomas Brown beating up Urijah Faber whenever the camera was on Valerie's corner. It makes me really sad he never quite adjusted to the UFC level of competition after the merger. I'm on a phone, someone post his Jeff Monson video plz.

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene

Sprecherscrow posted:

The Struve/Rosholt fight left me with two questions: 1) Is Rosholt the worst striker at Heavyweight and 2) was that the worst performance by a winning fighter ever?

Jon Madsen vs, Justin Wren, Mostapha Al-Turk, and then Karlos Vemola is a three fight win streak where nothing happens and might give it a run for its money. But Rosholt is up there for sure.

Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



Now that 24 hours have elapsed, I would like to say I find it very refreshing that nobody has crawled out of the dumpster to declare how the fight was fixed and the UFC made Holm to take a dive unlike other times "unbeatable" champs have had their poo poo pushed in. I don't know if there's some weird reason for it, but it's nice.

Meowbot
Oct 12, 2005

I havent had a plrecription for my eyes in years so the other day I went and got a new one and it hasnt changed. The doctor was like why havent you seen us in 4 years? I told them im scared of op tomietris when the air shoots into your eyes and dilation. They told me my eyes cold get worse....
I was in the midst of getting up to come to the computer and post how Holly Holm looks like a feral ghoul from fallout 4 and must have learned her strategy from the Clay Guida run away fighting school, basically nothing nice to say about the girl

then about 50 seconds later she knocked ronda rousey out with a head kick knock out. no one saw that coming (including rousey hahaha)

holly holm winning the title is just proof that jon jones is the GOAT since she has been training with him. I always found it real weird that "super champions" dont just go to jacksons gym considering GSP and jon jones two of the best of all time come from that gym you would think more fighters would train there. maybe it is just a location thing and only people living near ABQ can train with jackson winkeljohn.

all the respect to Holly Holm - her and valerie really proved that being number 7 or number 8 in MMA doesnt make a difference some nights. Excited to see how this changes the bantamweight landscape and now maybe we will see the belt transferring hands a few times. Rousey really looked like a goof ball after the weigh in and her not touching gloves. Holy was a clas act and hugged her and waited for her to get up, I like that a lot. Even though she looks like a feral ghoul from fallout 4.

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud

https://streamable.com/fcs5

afatwhiteloaf
Oct 19, 2012
I still can't wrap my mind around the fact that Holly Holm was able to lift and throw Ronda Rousey, Olympic bronze medalist in judo, after being stunned by the one good punch Ronda threw all night.

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
GSP didn't really spend most of his camps with Greg Jackson though.

IT BEGINS
Jan 15, 2009

I don't know how to make analogies

This is hilarious and terrifying at the same time.

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

afatwhiteloaf posted:

I still can't wrap my mind around the fact that Holly Holm was able to lift and throw Ronda Rousey, Olympic bronze medalist in judo, after being stunned by the one good punch Ronda threw all night.

Ronda was desperately looking for a takedown, Holm countered with the body lock and took her down, then disengaged.

Belle Isle Tech
Aug 28, 2009

Holy poo poo this is the best mma gif since the one with a knocked out Brendan Schaub reaching for a imaginary butterfly.

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

1st AD posted:

GSP didn't really spend most of his camps with Greg Jackson though.

Nah he pretty much trained with Firas at tri-star and then went to Jackson for the last few weeks for game plan help for some of his fights.

Work Friend Keven
Oct 24, 2015

I'M A BIG STUPID IDIOT WHO GETS TRIGGERED FROM THE WORDS SPORTS BALL AND HAS SHIT OPINIONS ABOUT CARD GAMES. ALSO I SAID I WAS GOING TO QUIT HEARTHSTONE OUT OF SPITE OF A TAIWANESE WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP SO REPORT ME IF YOU SEE ME POST IN A HS THREAD
Everyone knows gsp did all his training with The Canadian Olympic Wrestling Team

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
Holm really brought out all these things that reminded me of the best products of Jackson's gym:
- Jones' jamming with thigh kicks and elbows
- Condit's vigilance against unfavorable infighting and running out and resetting
- Cowboy's nasty close-up headkicks
- cultlike dedication to following parts of a gameplan


Characterising him as her judo coach is misleading, as Ronda was trained by other people as well, not the least of which is her mom.
By Pedro's own admission, he hasn't kept in touch with her for years.
Her judo career was campaign when she was younger. Not saying she's changed that much, but his take on her current mindset is limited. The other stuff was totally reasonable.

Tony Montana
Aug 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
The whole 'have a plan and use it', when so many of Ronda's previous opponents instead went full retard does drive home the point about Holm was one of her first quality fights. Meisha took her to three, but it took a 34 year old adult who can remember a series of dot points to take down the MOST DOMINANT FEMALE FIGHTER OF ALL TIME. I do love the fight game for exactly this, brains really will conquer brawn.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Northjayhawk posted:

This should be interesting. Joe Rogan is gonna release a podcast episode tomorrow with Dana White, chatting on the flight home.

"just put the gun down Dana, put it down man. Think of Conor, you still have Conor Dana..."

UnfurledSails
Sep 1, 2011

Tony Montana posted:

The whole 'have a plan and use it', when so many of Ronda's previous opponents instead went full retard does drive home the point about Holm was one of her first quality fights. Meisha took her to three, but it took a 34 year old adult who can remember a series of dot points to take down the MOST DOMINANT FEMALE FIGHTER OF ALL TIME. I do love the fight game for exactly this, brains really will conquer brawn.

It's not just about the plan, it's also having the tools to execute it. Give Bethe the same game plan and see how well she does.

Meowbot
Oct 12, 2005

I havent had a plrecription for my eyes in years so the other day I went and got a new one and it hasnt changed. The doctor was like why havent you seen us in 4 years? I told them im scared of op tomietris when the air shoots into your eyes and dilation. They told me my eyes cold get worse....

1st AD posted:

GSP didn't really spend most of his camps with Greg Jackson though.

ah you're right, I guess him having jackson in hjis corner most fights gave the illusion hewas working with him more. It just seems like such common knowledge that is one of the best gyms so I'm surprised more champions don't head that way. Ronda being under glendale fighting club has always been strange to me that she didn't join a bigger gym but I guess that is loyalty and nothing wrong with that just surprising since so many fighters hit a peak with certain gyms / coaching styles until they move on.

I still feel Jon Jones had a lot to do with this win. Holm had a lot of things to say about him helping her through this training camp.

canoshiz
Nov 6, 2005

THANK GOD FOR THE SMOKE MACHINE!
Tristar had a sweet breakdown of the fight and how Holm was able to dominate the clinch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3stwtCmWTA


Also one of the secret Greg Jackson Fight Codewords for the fight was Travis Browne lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aH6nqAmgo8&t=103s

Chrom1um
Dec 31, 2005
Come and join my doomsday cult!

1st AD posted:

If Holm wins again nobody will ever care about Cyborg again and I don't get why Cyborg is trashing Ronda nonstop with dumb memes right now.

Cyborg genuinely hates Ronda. This has got to be cathartic for her on some level. Combine this with the fact that even if Cyborg may or may not have lost out on a multimillion dollar paycheck, her continuing to rip into Ronda doesn't exactly have any further negative consequences right now. Might as well get her fill.

1st AD posted:

Cyborg pulled mount against Gina Carano, twice

This happened 6 years ago, you really think she's the same fighter? See her second fight with Coenen where she ragdolled and dominated her and also repeatedly refused to grapple, because it was the smart thing to do.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

canoshiz posted:

Tristar had a sweet breakdown of the fight and how Holm was able to dominate the clinch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3stwtCmWTA



This was a cool video. I love poo poo like this that clearly educates my casual mma fan self.

Chrom1um
Dec 31, 2005
Come and join my doomsday cult!

Holy gently caress. I am literally clapping right now.

Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006
Grimey Drawer

Northjayhawk posted:

Apparently the Vegas sportsbooks got crushed badly. They lost all the money they made from College Football that day. The only sportsbook that did OK was the golden nugget, aafter they decided to accept a few very large bets on Rousey.

How does this work? Don't sportsbooks get crushed when all of the favorites win?

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


canoshiz posted:

Tristar had a sweet breakdown of the fight and how Holm was able to dominate the clinch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3stwtCmWTA

Good video but I would have liked some indepth analysis of how Holm picked Rousey apart on the feet as well as how she defended Rousey's judo/sub fishing.

Perhaps that's not part of Zahabi's expertise though?

Jst0rm
Sep 16, 2012
Grimey Drawer

manyak posted:

Manyaks Law dictates that this jst0rm guy has 100% chance of working as a computer guy, some kind of IT guy or graphic designer, never been so sure of its application

I work in the film industry.

ch3cooh
Jun 26, 2006

xcore posted:

How does this work? Don't sportsbooks get crushed when all of the favorites win?

Not entirely. Ronda was at one point -2000 and Holly was +1000. So if a sportsbook took in $1,000,000 on Ronda at -2000 they would have only been on the hook for $50,000 in payouts. But if they took in $1,000,000 on Holly at +1000 they would be on the hook for $10,000,000 in payouts.

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"

canoshiz posted:

Tristar had a sweet breakdown of the fight and how Holm was able to dominate the clinch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3stwtCmWTA


Also one of the secret Greg Jackson Fight Codewords for the fight was Travis Browne lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aH6nqAmgo8&t=103s

LobsterMobster posted:

Watching the fight from the blue corner, Winklejohn shouts "Do the Travis Browne!"

From context, he yells that, she lands a left straight, and then Wink says "Beautiful!" so I guess that's what that is

Triticum Guzzler
Jun 16, 2002
Timetable for module B603 - Applied Beastin'

11/16/15 - Module Introduction and Basics of Beastin'
Professor Anderson

11/23/15 - Beastin' Through the Life Cycle
Dr. Severn

11/30/15 - New Concepts in Beastin'
Dr. Eastman

12/7/15 - Space, Time, and Beastin' - Extradimensional Perspectives in Beastin'
Professor Anderson

12/14/15 - Beastin' and the East - Cross-cultural Beastin' Practices
Dr. Sapp

12/21/15 - End of Module Exam

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

Bluedeanie posted:

Now that 24 hours have elapsed, I would like to say I find it very refreshing that nobody has crawled out of the dumpster to declare how the fight was fixed and the UFC made Holm to take a dive unlike other times "unbeatable" champs have had their poo poo pushed in. I don't know if there's some weird reason for it, but it's nice.

My Facebook feed says otherwise, with the bonus of a Mayweather fanboy saying that this win proves the superiority of Boxing over MMA and how champion boxers would clean out their mma divisions. Then again, he is an idiot.

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

One of my smartest friends believes it was a dive because "it's like boxing in the 90's" I've just been trolling him because this is one subject I know more than him so I get him to say something incorrect and then prove him wrong with facts. After having it done to me this is wonderful payback.

outy
Aug 27, 2004

Jst0rm posted:

I work in the film industry.

fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005

Triticum Guzzler posted:

Timetable for module B603 - Applied Beastin'

11/16/15 - Module Introduction and Basics of Beastin'
Professor Anderson

11/23/15 - Beastin' Through the Life Cycle
Dr. Severn

11/30/15 - New Concepts in Beastin'
Dr. Eastman

12/7/15 - Space, Time, and Beastin' - Extradimensional Perspectives in Beastin'
Professor Anderson

12/14/15 - Beastin' and the East - Cross-cultural Beastin' Practices
Dr. Sapp

12/21/15 - End of Module Exam

lollllllll

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Triticum Guzzler posted:

Timetable for module B603 - Applied Beastin'

11/16/15 - Module Introduction and Basics of Beastin'
Professor Anderson

11/23/15 - Beastin' Through the Life Cycle
Dr. Severn

11/30/15 - New Concepts in Beastin'
Dr. Eastman

12/7/15 - Space, Time, and Beastin' - Extradimensional Perspectives in Beastin'
Professor Anderson

12/14/15 - Beastin' and the East - Cross-cultural Beastin' Practices
Dr. Sapp

12/21/15 - End of Module Exam

This course is loving dumb I just wanted to go into BEAST MODE why do I have to learn all this equations and mathematics bullshit?

Triticum Guzzler
Jun 16, 2002
I will be open and honest: In my capacity as a state approved pro-poster I think "Beastin' 25/8" is a good, fun nickname to have

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Triticum Guzzler posted:

I will be open and honest: In my capacity as a state approved pro-poster I think "Beastin' 25/8" is a good, fun nickname to have


:saddowns:

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VagueRant
May 24, 2012
Just checking in, I'm the Rousey bandwagoning idiot who otherwise doesn't watch UFC and legit believed Bluedeanie was a UFC doctor that one time.

And I am still totally shocked about the fight. Holm did a great job. The whole undefeated label shouldn't matter, even if the loss of it is pretty brutal. Ronda's still a superstar and has all that Mainstream Charisma(tm) that most athletes lack. But man, this is still crazy.

I'm really disappointed with her about that little cheap shot punch at the end of round 1 though. Not touching gloves and the weird weigh-in incident, I can look past. But that seemed like REALLY bad sportsmanship. Does that happen often?

Also guess I need to keep an eye on this Joanna Jechaychik(?) lady now, holy crap.

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