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Not to mention that that just a casual Youtube search yields a ton of Holm's Boxing and Kickboxing highlights. I don't see the point of dogging her MMA fights to stay under the radar when her whole history is pretty much on demand and searchable.
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Sometimes I wish they'd figure out a way to integrate their reactions into the stream somewhere. Gimme a little Picture in Picture of screaming Joe Rogan or something.
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Le Saboteur posted:Sometimes I wish they'd figure out a way to integrate their reactions into the stream somewhere. Gimme a little Picture in Picture of screaming Joe Rogan or something. like a Japanese game show?
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I would probably pay $5 extra for a picture-in-picture of Chuck watching whatever PPV I'm watching
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fatherdog posted:I would probably pay $5 extra for a picture-in-picture of Chuck watching whatever PPV I'm watching Does the camera cut away when he chugs cough syrup?
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fatherdog posted:I would probably pay $5 extra for a picture-in-picture of Chuck watching whatever PPV I'm watching the jokes on you when Chuck gets bored after 3 fights and all you can see is the reflection in his full length ceiling mirror of him doing a rail and banging a blonde(s). Actually idk maybe thats 5$ well spent.
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Rousey needed plastic surgery for her split lip apparently, wonder if she will look any different now or if it will be unnoticeable.
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Nov 16, 2015 21:53
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She probably looks like Frankenstein's Monster now. Completely unfuckable
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MysteryNad posted:The best late shot was a late shot by Jon Jones, except instead of actually trying to take Rampage down he just crawled through his legs and stood up, making Rampage stumble like an idiot. Classic jon jones http://i.imgur.com/Zo94Yc6.webm
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willie_dee posted:Rousey needed plastic surgery for her split lip apparently, wonder if she will look any different now or if it will be unnoticeable. Nothing that can't be covered up with acting lessons.
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It was legit cool when jones walked away from machida and everyone threw a fit.
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willie_dee posted:Rousey needed plastic surgery for her split lip apparently, wonder if she will look any different now or if it will be unnoticeable. Really? It didn't seem that bad. Particularly in comparison to Robbie Lawler's nasty as hell tear.
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Maybe posted already but Holly Holm has apparently already agreed to a rematch. Nothing officially, but she said a champion like Ronda Rousey deserves one. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/holly-holm--a-champion-like-ronda-rousey--deserves-a-rematch-022909446-mma.html quote:“I think a rematch makes sense for sure,” she said. “I’ve been on the losing side of a fight and I wanted the rematch, I wanted to avenge my loss. With a champion like Ronda – who has gone out of her way, above and beyond, to do great things – absolutely she deserves a rematch. Holly Holm can, for the rest of her life, say she best Ronda Rousey. No matter how a rematch turns out, she beat her that one time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khauvdb_f8A
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Good video but I would have liked some indepth analysis of how Holm picked Rousey apart on the feet e: I edited a lot of poor writing out. Holm has always been good at keeping distance, aka cowardice. Jack Slack pointed out that any limitations the ring gave her were freed up in the much bigger cage. Even if you're running the whole time, if you keep some footwork discipline and you have experience boxing, you'll know exactly when you can stop and return fire on an incoming opponent. Holm's cross is pretty solid formwise. So she keeps Rousey a step and a half outside of punching range, just luring Ronda to keep coming after her and to abandon any gameplan. Then she fires into Ronda's poor defense, tagging her, and backing away quickly or circling to the right, outside of Ronda's jab. This basically goads Ronda into stepping up the pressure. Without any wiles or planning for cutting Holm off, Ronda just wades or jogs forward, struggling to get inside that 1.5 step buffer Holm is maintaining and presenting her head for more counter opportunities. That's the first phase: - land the cross from range and keep encouraging Ronda to throw discipline out the window - enter into wide punches (like the finishing cross or the elbow) or jam up attempts to close distance - build punch combos off Ronda's lack of defense and refusal to neutralize Holm's reach advantage with kicks Of course, hugely to Holly's credit, she also gets herself out of dangerous grappling situations to return to the striking domain. At some point, Holm's success pushed Ronda into another level of urgency. Now she's throwing big punches and telegraphing the poo poo out of them. All head shots, too, with elbows flared. But the biggest aid to Holm is still the telegraphing. Holm has seen enough punches to have the timing and spacing down cold. When Ronda throws a big shot, Holm has plenty of time to duck and pivot out. The duck and evasion in the second round is the culmination -- Ronda is trying to smash her hook onto Holm's guard, which would stun Holm and let Rousey get hands on her. But Ronda's become so predictable at this point. She's coming straight in from far out, starting the hook very wide and sweeping it high. The entire volume under that arm is free. Ronda's body is moving forward, bringing that escape hatch closer, and Holm knows there's no kick coming on that side -- Ronda's not a kicker and she's fully committed to trying to take her head off. So Holm ducks and pops forward off her back foot. Ronda tripping is from not having the momentum of her punch get stopped by landing on meat, throwing her upper body around and spinning off of a still planting front foot. In a mirror stance situation, if your opponent is a headhunter, and you know a kick is not following a wild lead punch, there's no safer escape than ducking and shooting to the outside of that lead punch. It's incredibly effective -- I've done it myself countless times to guys much better than me when they became predictable about coming in with a single heavy shot. kimbo305 fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Nov 16, 2015 |
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^^^ good post. I would add: -I suspect that Holly hits harder than Ronda anticipated. Ronda is normally right to assume she can afford to wade in and eat a few shots if it means she can grab her opponent. Holly's shots stung right away. -Most people really seem to be skipping over what I think is the most important aspect, that of Holly being able to defend the judo. Despite the gulf between them in striking, Ronda *was* able to grapple on multiple occasions, and wasn't able to do what she's used to. Technical striking and movement were not enough by themselves. Holly might be the strongest opponent Ronda has faced. Josuke Higashikata posted:Really? It didn't seem that bad. Particularly in comparison to Robbie Lawler's nasty as hell tear. Ditch fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Nov 16, 2015 |
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Work Friend Keven posted:It was legit cool when jones walked away from machida and everyone threw a fit. I... I miss Jon Jones.
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kimbo305 posted:Holm has always been good at keep distance aka cowardice. Your post is pretty good overall but I don't know what you're going for here.
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Work Friend Keven posted:It was legit cool when jones walked away from machida and everyone threw a fit. i honestly don't remember anyone giving a gently caress. i remember people laughing a lot at greg's instruction. it'd be really weird to get upset at that when almeida killed berchak last week, watched his body crumple way worse than lyoto's, and then celebrate with his tongue out.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Your post is pretty good overall but I don't know what you're going for here. it's a joke
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Marching Powder posted:i honestly don't remember anyone giving a gently caress. i remember people laughing a lot at greg's instruction. it'd be really weird to get upset at that when almeida killed berchak last week, watched his body crumple way worse than lyoto's, and then celebrate with his tongue out. I may have been a little salty in the heat of the moment because Yay Machida, Boo Jones, but the ultimate issue for me was the insecurity of Jones "getting some fans" afterward. That was just goofy.
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willie_dee posted:Rousey needed plastic surgery for her split lip apparently, wonder if she will look any different now or if it will be unnoticeable. word on the street is that her sexual market value decreased significantly
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Count Roland posted:I... I miss Jon Jones. You're lucky he's hard at work then  
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She should probably get Chael's therapists' card and look into why she needs to hate everyone who fights her. That poo poo about Holm letting her mask slip at the weigh-in's should have been a red flag that she was fishing for poo poo to get mad about and isn't Diaz enough to actually believe it.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:She should probably get Chael's therapists' card and look into why she needs to hate everyone who fights her. That poo poo about Holm letting her mask slip at the weigh-in's should have been a red flag that she was fishing for poo poo to get mad about and isn't Diaz enough to actually believe it. I'm not sure Chael's therapist ever existed
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Triticum Guzzler posted:I'm not sure Chael's therapist ever existed  No way that Chael lied.
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Bluedeanie posted:I may have been a little salty in the heat of the moment because Yay Machida, Boo Jones, but the ultimate issue for me was the insecurity of Jones "getting some fans" afterward. That was just goofy. Jones wasn't publically a poo poo head then though unless him saying he was going to be a champ makes you cry or something
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Your post is pretty good overall but I don't know what you're going for here. Sorry, that should have said "good at keeping distance aka cowardice." And yes, it was a mild joke.
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kimbo305 posted:Holm has always been good at keep distance aka cowardice. Jack Slack pointed out that any limitations the ring gave her were freed up in the much bigger cage. Good post. Also, after watching it and keeping Ronda's one interview in mind - I feel like Ronda and Edmund aexpected this match to go exactly the way it did, but assumed that A) Holly's punches couldn't hurt Ronda, and therefore B) over the course of five rounds eventually Ronda would get the throw and then kill her. And, welp. Josuke Higashikata posted:Your post is pretty good overall but I don't know what you're going for here. After Condit/Diaz fans of Nick decided that moving in any way that isn't directly towards your opponent in a fight was cowardice although sometimes it's difficult to tell who's ironically referencing this and who unironically has decided to believe it.
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Cole posted:Maybe posted already but Holly Holm has apparently already agreed to a rematch. Nothing officially, but she said a champion like Ronda Rousey deserves one. Of course she wants a quick rematch. No one who saw that fight believes Rousey can beat Holm right now without a lot of work, probably with new coaches. I don't think we'll really know what the plan is for at least a month or so. Dana, Lorenzo, and the UFC brain trust needs to get together and have a tough conversation about what they want to do. Rousey probably won't fight till UFC 200, thats a given but if they do the immediate rematch, they risk basically cashing in Rousey's status as a marketable headliner. Good Lord, imagine if she got pummeled twice in a row by Holly. The smarter move may be to keep Holly active, have her fight again in March, and see what happens from there. If someone else is the champ, OK maybe they throw Rousey at her but if its still Holly, I'd have Holly fight Cat Zingano or something, you can sell that as a co-main, and work on building Rousey back up, at least one more win before the rematch, to give her most of a year to improve.
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fatherdog posted:Good post. Also, after watching it and keeping Ronda's one interview in mind - I feel like Ronda and Edmund aexpected this match to go exactly the way it did, but assumed that A) Holly's punches couldn't hurt Ronda, and therefore B) over the course of five rounds eventually Ronda would get the throw and then kill her. And, welp. Almost literally the homer Simpson plan.
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I didn't see this posted - video from right after Ronda woke up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzbYPo1eqEw
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Intel&Sebastian posted:She should probably get Chael's therapists' card and look into why she needs to hate everyone who fights her. That poo poo about Holm letting her mask slip at the weigh-in's should have been a red flag that she was fishing for poo poo to get mad about and isn't Diaz enough to actually believe it. The only fighters I remember Ronda getting real nasty with before Holm are Tate and Bethe, in fact I think she was actually pretty friendly with Carmouche and Zingano, which makes her behavior with Holm seem weirder to me, as I'd think Holm would be one of the non-shitstirring friendly types for Ronda
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Yeah, I'm not sure where this "Ronda needs to be angry with her opponents!" thing comes from; she's been pretty professional with everyone except Correia and Tate before now.
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Wild Horses posted:You're lucky he's hard at work then God drat he looks like one of his NFL brothers or he got on some major gas. I suppose being in the NFL and being on the gas is about the same thing.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Your post is pretty good overall but I don't know what you're going for here. referring to anything other than charging directly at your opponent is abject cowardice
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Trast posted:God drat he looks like one of his NFL brothers or he got on some major gas. I suppose being in the NFL and being on the gas is about the same thing. He also is not in camp and doesn't have to make 205.
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Triticum Guzzler posted:I'm not sure Chael's therapist ever existed my favourite chael thing is that after promising his dying father that he would be champion he had to go through all those mental gymnastics to convince himself that he was the best and he definitely could make good on his promise. and then after talking massive amounts of trash and getting repeatedly destroyed he was like "oh i was just joking. about all of that. definitely playing games. definitely just an act. definitely did not let my father down (dead) down in a way that i can never make up for, and then tell everyone i had weird mangled balls. definitely just a joke" and he seems to believe it, and has escaped the terrible specter of self reflection unscathed
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savinhill posted:The only fighters I remember Ronda getting real nasty with before Holm are Tate and Bethe, in fact I think she was actually pretty friendly with Carmouche and Zingano, which makes her behavior with Holm seem weirder to me, as I'd think Holm would be one of the non-shitstirring friendly types for Ronda Yeah, I'd probably just chalk it up to weight cutting eccentricity. Supposedly, fighters get crazy and irritable when they're cutting, and Ronda looked a bit drained at the weigh-ins.
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Trast posted:God drat he looks like one of his NFL brothers or he got on some major gas. I suppose being in the NFL and being on the gas is about the same thing. he's been training with a powerlifting team for awhile now and he's only up to like 225.
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origami posted:I didn't see this posted - video from right after Ronda woke up: yeesh
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