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Squizzle posted:The Goblin That Eats Clean-Line Pencillers Once Per Decade can only wake up if people get into too many internet slapfights about meaningless bullshit, so we should all just agree that one or more people made a mistake somewhere in this Runaways conversation, then drop the subject, like civilized adults. That's a really weird thing to be afraid of but you know, I did hear Mike Allred was under the weather...
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Just given the cast there was no way for Runaways to be anything but a miniseries.
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Is there anything I should read along with Hickman's Avengers/New Avengers stuff? I just hit the 8 month time skip and it seems like I missed a lot. I assume stuff like Thor losing his arm happened in his own book, but what about stuff like all the new Illuminati members?
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Nov 16, 2015 19:33
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Opopanax posted:Is there anything I should read along with Hickman's Avengers/New Avengers stuff? I just hit the 8 month time skip and it seems like I missed a lot. I assume stuff like Thor losing his arm happened in his own book, but what about stuff like all the new Illuminati members? redbackground fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Nov 16, 2015 |
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Nov 16, 2015 19:39
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redbackground posted:Not really. Jumping forward that far allows Hickman to toss things like Cho's inclusion at you so you go "What the what, things are cray! Everyone has a beard now!" You're supposed to be a bit disoriented. But yes, the Thor-arm and Old Cap stuff occurred in their own titles. Avengers World had a few issues showing some events that occurred during that time (17-21), but they are hardly necessary (there's some stuff with Namor creeping on alternate Susans, and how exactly Roberto took control of AIM). Anything Hickman needs you to know, will occur in a Hickman book. That's what I figured, thanks
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Nov 16, 2015 20:33
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Thor is really good so you should read it anyway. 
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Nov 16, 2015 22:42
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Endless Mike posted:Thor is really good so you should read it anyway. This. And the Thors SW tie in mini is leading directly back into Aaron's Thor run. It also has the best last page stinger I've seen in a comic in a long time.
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Nov 16, 2015 22:46
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Rhyno posted:This. And the Thors SW tie in mini is leading directly back into Aaron's Thor run. It also has the best last page stinger I've seen in a comic in a long time. Ultimate End had the same problem (among its many other problems too), a story ticking along and then Miles shows up, so gently caress all that stuff we were just telling you about, right?
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Nov 17, 2015 00:54
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Same with Weirdworld. It's leading to a big battle and then everything explodes with no warning on the last page.
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Nov 17, 2015 01:42
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CapnAndy posted:Thors pissed me off because it was three issues of an awesome unconnected murder mystery with the Thors as beat cops using the setting to great effect and a fourth issue of "gently caress all that poo poo, Jane Thor showed up so now it's about rebelling against Doom". I WAS ENJOYING THE POLICE PROCEDURAL GODDAMMIT HOW ABOUT YOU GIVE RUNE THOR A MOTIVE AND EXPLAIN HOW LOKI KNEW WHAT THE gently caress AND ALSO MAYBE UNWORTHY THOR GETS HIS HAMMER BACK OR SOME SORT OF CLOSURE WHAT THE gently caress Rune Thor did have a motive, he explained it. When he looked into (a) Jane's eyes, he realized that Battleworld wasn't real, but he liked the way things were, so he realized he had to cover it up and prevent any other Thors from realizing the world's true nature by killing all Jane Fosters. Now as for Loki... yeah that was kind of a bad unexplained plot point. Maybe he could see the world was fake just by nature of being Loki? And this is all not to disagree with you. I too, dislike how a lot of the SW tie-ins seem to end on "WELP, THAT'S ALL FOLKS, SEE YOU IN THE MAIN BOOK AND/OR OUR NEW SPINOFF!" The real ones that suffer seem to be the ones where the raft survivors appear, which at first I thought would be a super-neat touch to this whole event, but now more and more it seems like every tie-in that features a Life Raft survivor is destined to end disappointingly, I suppose since nothing of consequence can happen to those characters outside of the main book. TwoPair fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Nov 17, 2015 |
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Nov 17, 2015 02:14
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Loki is the god of lies. I assume you can't lie to him for long.
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Nov 17, 2015 02:23
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Aphrodite posted:Loki is the god of lies. I assume you can't lie to him for long. He's now the god of stories.
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TwoPair posted:Rune Thor did have a motive, he explained it. When he looked into (a) Jane's eyes, he realized that Battleworld wasn't real, but he liked the way things were, so he realized he had to cover it up and prevent any other Thors from realizing the world's true nature by killing all Jane Fosters. Now as for Loki... yeah that was kind of a bad unexplained plot point. Maybe he could see the world was fake just by nature of being Loki? Counterpoint: Siege was awesome all the way through and it not only had Thanos appear, it had whole chunks of the final issue repeat in the main book. And A-Force and Spider-Verse both did decent jobs telling a full story and still set up some stuff for the ongoing series they're launching.
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Nov 17, 2015 03:50
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Quite a few books ended pretty decently. Then theres ones I dont care about, one or two stinkers. Dont think I've been disappointed yet, but yeah, Thors was a 180 in the direction for the last issue.
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Nov 17, 2015 04:07
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Skwirl posted:He's now the god of stories. That's just because he realized every lie is a story. It's an upgrade, it's not like he lost out on lies.
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Aphrodite posted:That's just because he realized every lie is a story. It's an upgrade, it's not like he lost out on lies.
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Nov 17, 2015 04:26
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Lightning Lord posted:
*sigh* I wish that was the excuse he'd used...
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Nov 18, 2015 14:27
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Here's a thing that's bothered me for a while: What degree of significance should we give to Quentin Quire (etymologically) and Five-in-One meaning close to the same thing? And if the etymology doesn't seem meaningful, the kid's name is pronounced quint in choir, which, you know: a set of quintuplets, speaking as one.
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Nov 19, 2015 22:26
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Well, there's only three now.
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Nov 19, 2015 22:30
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zoux posted:Well, there's only three now. And he's responsible for one of those deaths, at least indirectly.
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So I'm getting into Luke Cage through the new Jessica Jones show and I have 2 questions: 1. I know with unbreakable skin he's basically invulnerable, aside from that I guess his weaknesses are needing to eat/drink/breath? Any other major ones like a kryptonite or something? 2. Who is his archenemy/who would be the main villain of his series probably?
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Nov 21, 2015 04:35
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OldTennisCourt posted:So I'm getting into Luke Cage through the new Jessica Jones show and I have 2 questions: 1. His biggest weakness is also his unbreakable skin. He was severely inured shortly before he joined the New Avengers and because of his invulnerability they had difficulty treating him. 2. Jive Turkies.
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Nov 21, 2015 04:52
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Rhyno posted:2. Jive Turkies. Deadbeat Doctor Doom.
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Phylodox posted:Deadbeat Doctor Doom. Where is his money, honey?
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Is his skin literally unbreakable or is he invulnerable like Superman is invulnerable (I.e. If he gets hit hard enough)?
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Aphrodite posted:Is his skin literally unbreakable or is he invulnerable like Superman is invulnerable (I.e. If he gets hit hard enough)? It's unverified just how unbreakable it is, but as far as I know (except maybe in Marvel zombies but gently caress that stupid poo poo) it's never been broken. Even when Robert Kirkman had these super high tech superhero killers from the future show up and murder every Avenger, they had to use a special beam to melt his insides. It's not as useful as it sounds because he can still take internal damage when tossed around, since it's still just skin. It's mostly just good for stopping bullets and knives.
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Nov 21, 2015 05:45
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Lurdiak posted:It's unverified just how unbreakable it is, but as far as I know (except maybe in Marvel zombies but gently caress that stupid poo poo) it's never been broken. Even when Robert Kirkman had these super high tech superhero killers from the future show up and murder every Avenger, they had to use a special beam to melt his insides. Bendis really amped him up in New Avengers, he's stronger than Spider-man and very resistant to injury beyond unbreakable skin.
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Rhyno posted:Bendis really amped him up in New Avengers, he's stronger than Spider-man and very resistant to injury beyond unbreakable skin. He's not stronger than Spider-Man. I mean, given the elasticity of super strength in comics it's hard to say definitely, but I doubt there's ever been something that shows him being stronger than Spider-Man in a direct comparison. Bendis did write him as durable well beyond his skin, since he fell off a building during a huge brawl and then just got in an elevator to get back to it.
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Skwirl posted:He's not stronger than Spider-Man. I mean, given the elasticity of super strength in comics it's hard to say definitely, but I doubt there's ever been something that shows him being stronger than Spider-Man in a direct comparison. Well I can't find it but I recall reading a Bendis interview about bringing Cage to the team where he said Luke was stronger than Peter.
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Squizzle posted:Here's a thing that's bothered me for a while: What degree of significance should we give to Quentin Quire (etymologically) and Five-in-One meaning close to the same thing? And if the etymology doesn't seem meaningful, the kid's name is pronounced quint in choir, which, you know: a set of quintuplets, speaking as one. It's only significance is probably just that it's drat clever. The alliteration gets some Stan Lee points too. Where is Quentin in All New All Different Marvel?
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Luke's skin has been broken in What If a couple times. Once by Spider-Man's Other claws and once by Wolverine. One of his more badass moments was in House of M: Avengers where he advanced on Taskmaster. Taskmaster had a bunch of trick arrows and shot them one after the other. Explosives, acid, etc. Not one of them slowed down Luke. Then he caught up with him and said "The skin as strong as steel line is just a saying" before beating him into a coma.
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Nov 21, 2015 07:30
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Has Superman's cellophane S power from Superman 2 ever been referenced or used in the comics, jokingly or not?
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Skwirl posted:He's not stronger than Spider-Man. I mean, given the elasticity of super strength in comics it's hard to say definitely, but I doubt there's ever been something that shows him being stronger than Spider-Man in a direct comparison. Some quick Googling tells me that the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Vol 2 #10 listed Cage's strength as enough to lift/press approx. 25 tons, whereas Spider-Man's upper limit is typically expressed at around 10 tons. ....I should get out more.
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Nov 21, 2015 09:25
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Ror posted:Has Superman's cellophane S power from Superman 2 ever been referenced or used in the comics, jokingly or not? No idea, but I always assumed it was taken from some silver age comic where he turned Jimmy Olsen into a gorilla or whatever.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Some quick Googling tells me that the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Vol 2 #10 listed Cage's strength as enough to lift/press approx. 25 tons, whereas Spider-Man's upper limit is typically expressed at around 10 tons. Spider-man's a bad baseline, his power has fluctuated a lot over the years, mostly downward. He used to be listed as stronger than or as strong as She-Hulk. There's no loving way that still applies.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Some quick Googling tells me that the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Vol 2 #10 listed Cage's strength as enough to lift/press approx. 25 tons, whereas Spider-Man's upper limit is typically expressed at around 10 tons. Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe is bullshit, so many things in that are directly contradicted in comics that come both before and after it.
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I thought it was around 40 tons according to the old TSR role playing game.
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hadji murad posted:I thought it was around 40 tons according to the old TSR role playing game. The sad thing is, I can actually check that; both Spider-Man and Power Man (which is what he was going by at the time this game came out) are listed at a Strength of INCREDIBLE (40), which isn't tied to a specific lifting ability but is more of an abstraction. Each does the same amount of damage with a punch, at least.
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Aphrodite posted:Is his skin literally unbreakable or is he invulnerable like Superman is invulnerable (I.e. If he gets hit hard enough)? He alive, dammit.
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Rhyno posted:Bendis really amped him up in New Avengers, he's stronger than Spider-man and very resistant to injury beyond unbreakable skin.
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