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Cygni posted:Nissan LMP1 is dead and everyone fired. Another "remember that stupid poo poo?" moment for the history books. Hey remember when they pulled out of the race after LeMans and we all said "They're going to kill it" and the internet said "Noooo! They're totally committed!" And then they pulled out of all the other races and we all said "They're going to kill it" and the internet said "Noooo! They're totally committed!" Good times. You Am I posted:In Australia they will be remembered for the R32 Skyline GTR tearing every other touring car a new one in the early 90s. I watched an episode of the Legends of Motorsport series on their Bathurst debut. It didn't win but dear god did it have the speed. Looked a decade ahead of the Sierras and Commodores it was sharing the track with.
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You Am I posted:In Australia they will be remembered for the R32 Skyline GTR tearing every other touring car a new one in the early 90s. Well when you get into regular tintops Nissan is just fine. It's the prototypes they suck at, they only ever had success in that class with IMSA.
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Dec 23, 2015 14:15
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I'll always remember them for the time I nearly tripped over the front splitter of the demo car.
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You Am I posted:In Australia they will be remembered for the R32 Skyline GTR tearing every other touring car a new one in the early 90s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9IBSJPadf8&t=730s Aussies really loved Nissan lol
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VikingSkull posted:Well when you get into regular tintops Nissan is just fine. It's the prototypes they suck at, they only ever had success in that class with IMSA. The Lola-Nissans were good cars, IMO.
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Human Grand Prix posted:The Lola-Nissans were good cars, IMO. Well there current lmp2 engine is kicking rear end in whatever prototype. Seems this is a bigger sweeping thing by Nissan since Doran is now out to lunch with his team losing Nissan support, top guy for motorsports booted. Seems like they are clearing house and reevaluating poo poo. Think they saw the bill and said nope gently caress this.
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BMB5150 posted:Well there current lmp2 engine is kicking rear end in whatever prototype. Seems this is a bigger sweeping thing by Nissan since Doran is now out to lunch with his team losing Nissan support, top guy for motorsports booted. Seems like they are clearing house and reevaluating poo poo. Think they saw the bill and said nope gently caress this. Yeah I'm reading a lot of comments stating Nissan should stay out of sports car racing because they are out to lunch, seemingly ignoring that they are pretty successful LMP2.
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BMB5150 posted:Well there current lmp2 engine is kicking rear end in whatever prototype. Seems this is a bigger sweeping thing by Nissan since Doran is now out to lunch with his team losing Nissan support, top guy for motorsports booted. Seems like they are clearing house and reevaluating poo poo. Think they saw the bill and said nope gently caress this. I'm not sure how much we can tie the IMSA and WEC cancellations together - we know that Honda USA and Honda mothership in Japan are two different things, Nissan may be the same way. Nissan USA may have wanted to cancel and align their interests, while the NISMO/WEC situation is likely due to a falling out. It's really sad because I buy what Cox and NISMO were selling early in the year - and still contend it was a hard situation for them because they were doing all their hard work testing in front of us all. It's admirable, and really sad that they didn't stick with it.
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The only way that concept made sense was if the mechanical ERS system worked, which it didn't. So y'all can save the "gee this concept got killed too early" for some other lunacy like rotary engines. Seriously now, Bowlby is 0-3 and no amount of fedora-wearing iconoclasm is going to make the ZEOD RC or GT-R LM any less of a failure.
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drgitlin posted:. So y'all can save the "gee this concept got killed too early" for some other lunacy like rotary engines. salty about racecars on xmas smh
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Cygni posted:salty about racecars on xmas smh No, I'm just bored of people deciding that an idea has to be good just because it's different. Some tags are objectively bad ideas, and a FWD race car competing against RWD race cars is one of those (and I should know, having raced a FWD car that breaks down a lot for the last few years).
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drgitlin posted:No, I'm just bored of people deciding that an idea has to be good just because it's different. Some tags are objectively bad ideas, and a FWD race car competing against RWD race cars is one of those (and I should know, having raced a FWD car that breaks down a lot for the last few years). Eh, you can have your opinion. I've heard a lot of people have the opposite opinion, including my pops who decided to spend 20 minutes of our xmas skype talking about it. And then another 45min complaining about the Daytona 24 camping prices, and then announcing he was going to go to the Barber IndyCar race instead cause its barely ~$100 cheaper. Old man yells at car shaped cloud.
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Dec 26, 2015 19:34
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God drat, Ganassi really DID ragequit P in IMSA, didn't they? Two Ford GTs in GTLM with completely new drivers and Pruett's going to GTD via Action Express for one last Prototype hurrah in the 24. ...I'm just now picking up on this and didn't think to look until today. Also, only three former Rolex DP teams appear to be left: Action Express (which was Brumos), Spirit of Daytona (which I remember for several years being a backmarker until they really put it together and became competitive) and Wayne Taylor Racing. Shank switched body styles, but they were a DP team, too.
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Dec 27, 2015 00:04
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Less ragequit, more "hi, we're Ford, here's a bajillion dollars, go win Le Mans".
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VikingSkull posted:Less ragequit, more "hi, we're Ford, here's a bajillion dollars, go win Le Mans". Yup. Though something happened with them and Pruett seems like - he moved away so he could have a chance at another Daytona 24 overall win, yet Ganassi are rolling one DP out to try too. Hmm. GTLM is gonna be nuts this next year and I cannot wait.
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harperdc posted:Yup. Though something happened with them and Pruett seems like - he moved away so he could have a chance at another Daytona 24 overall win, yet Ganassi are rolling one DP out to try too. Hmm. Considering Ganassi is not going to have total focus on prototypes and he will be driving for the championship winning team, Pruett probably sees this as a bit of a plus. Oh and Pruett is with Sage loving Karam in the Lexus GTD car. Believe it or not, Sage isn't the am driver of the 2.
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Dec 27, 2015 06:24
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You automatically go down a grade in the FIA's stupid rating system when you turn 55 (and again at 65).
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Karam might do OK in a sports car.
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Ganassi will, in fact, run two DPs in the 24: #01 (Team Who The gently caress?)- Lance Stroll, Alex Wurz, Andy Priaulx, Brendon Hartley #02 (Team Actual Drivers)- Scott Dixon, Tony Kanaan, Kyle Larson, Jamie McMurray I know Priaulx runs BTCC. Know Hartley's name but I can't remember where from.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Ganassi will, in fact, run two DPs in the 24: Hartley was on the Porsche team that won the WEC, Stroll is a Canadian Formula 3 driver and Werz has apparently won Le Mans twice was an F1 test driver for a long time. Along with Prilaux that's gonna be interesting.
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njsykora posted:Werz has apparently won Le Mans twice was an F1 test driver for a long time. He was also an F1 driver for Benetton for years. And a Peugeot and Toyota works driver in P1. He's def the most accomplished guy in that car, and hes been around forever.
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Stroll is the son of some Canadian clothing magnate so I would put my money on him paying to be there.
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Yeah Stroll was decent in F3, but got into quite a few crashes. But then so did everyone else in F3.
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I love that the team with 2 World Champions in is team "who the gently caress" and the team with 2 Nascar backmarkers in is the Actual Drivers one.
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Dudley posted:I love that the team with 2 World Champions in is team "who the gently caress" and the team with 2 Nascar backmarkers in is the Actual Drivers one. Do they call Lemans winners 'world champions'? Kinda seems like a stretch. Also the Ganassi star car generally runs really really well, but thats partly because Dixon is a loving madman. Seriously might be one of the best all around drivers in the last decade.
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World endurance champion from winning the WEC this year I think. Certainly as a whole "team who the gently caress" is probably the stronger team. E: or he meant 2 world champions as Hartley as WEC champion and Priaulx as WTCC champion. gret fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Dec 29, 2015 |
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That 2nd thing.
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Oh, gotcha. To be fair, WTCC is roughly below a shopping cart race in a grocery store parking lot as far as relevance to most people. Priaulx was winning the championship when it was better, and hes a really good driver, but I don't think the series is much of a household name to like anyone on earth.
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I'd call that the holy gently caress lineup (sans Stroll). I'd have to say that car and lineup is thanks to Stroll. Kind of now surprising Pruett left unless it was a last minute deal and that AXR ride is too much to resist.
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Yeah Priaulx is pretty much a touring car god. Was kind of surprised he struggled so much in DTM, although that's more of an open wheel formula car with a roof and fenders rather than a touring car.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Ganassi will, in fact, run two DPs in the 24: I guess this is post of the year for this thread for utter clueless-ness?
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Not a year for nurburgring http://www.dailysportscar.com/2015/12/30/teams-race-organisers-revolt-against-dmsb-on-nordschleife-regulation.html Teams are pissed off that the rules governing body are not listening to the drivers and teams, backed by the the 2 biggest race clubs in Germany and teams racking up to a 100 cars, and they won't race until they get a say in things.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Ganassi will, in fact, run two DPs in the 24: read and learn about Alex Wurz, you swaggerless cretin. also hot money is on Priaulx (who was formerly a BMW factory driver and I think jumped into an endurance spot with the Rahal team at Daytona/Sebring last year) being involved with the Ford GT team for the WEC squad.
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BMB5150 posted:Not a year for nurburgring The Nordschleife permit makes sense, a track that size you want to be sure people racing on it actually know the place though it looks like they've massively botched the implementation. That they still haven't been able to figure out how to safely manage crashes there though is just baffling. Everything just seems to be collapsing for that track, no F1 last year and now this, I really can't see it surviving much longer.
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Forgive me if I laugh at a place famous for taking a few bucks from idiots and billing them for guardrail after a near fatal crash that is now bitching about race driver experience.
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Even their 24hr is basically a track day for rich dudes.
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VikingSkull posted:Forgive me if I laugh at a place famous for taking a few bucks from idiots and billing them for guardrail after a near fatal crash that is now bitching about race driver experience. The DMSB, the Russian who owns operating rights, and the German government are all different even though you've managed to confuse them all in your post.
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I'm the guy taking poo poo literal instead of just saying "lol the 'Ring is a deathtrap"
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I'm guessing this is all a reaction to the idiot who got himself killed by standing in a loving stupid place and got whacked by an entirely blameless professional driver who would qualify under these regulations anyway.
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You Am I posted:I guess this is post of the year for this thread for utter clueless-ness? Admittedly, it is, and it all rides on racing exposure. The majority of racing I watch is North American. I only briefly watched F1 with regularity 13 years ago before I got tired of one driver winning every race, don't watch/have never seen WEC/WTCC/DTM/F3, and the only BTCC exposure I get comes in the form of condensed, one-hour highlight shows 10 days tape-delayed. On face value alone, I'm much more familiar with the car with the Indy 500 and Daytona 500 wins, IndyCar titles, and highly-touted NASCAR prospect on board. Reading about Wurz and knowing a bit about Priaulx (made a brief stop in BTCC the first time around before going on to bigger and better and then winding up in BTCC with BMW again), combined with Hartley's experience in the car, makes it much more intriguing. e- I knew I knew Hartley- he ran a DP for Starworks in Rolex, and seeing his results made him familiar. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Jan 1, 2016 |
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