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Brock Landers
Jul 28, 2004

You're a donkey. I like that.

MassivelyBuckNegro posted:

one of the local dealerships is advertising $3k-$4k under msrp on most of their cars. vw must be suffering.

http://www.heritagevw.com/new-inven...-anchor-model-0

Yup. Most of the dealers in the Baltimore/DC area are discounting like that and are within a few hundred dollars of each other. My closest dealer had the Passat I wanted in stock but advertised a slightly higher price. A quick email to them got them to beat the lowest I could find by a hundred or so. You have to add ~$800 in freight and whatever bogus processing fee the dealer adds for the state you're in though.

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Tyro
Nov 10, 2009
Anyone here in the DC area have a VAG-COM? My mk4 1.8T is having intermittent hard starting issues (turns over but doesn't catch) but the battery is fine and lights aren't dimming. I suspect it's the crankshaft position sensor/impulse sender. I'd rather pull the codes if possible than guess and throw parts at it.

willroc7
Jul 24, 2006

BADGES? WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' BADGES!

Tyro posted:

Anyone here in the DC area have a VAG-COM? My mk4 1.8T is having intermittent hard starting issues (turns over but doesn't catch) but the battery is fine and lights aren't dimming. I suspect it's the crankshaft position sensor/impulse sender. I'd rather pull the codes if possible than guess and throw parts at it.
I can't help you but check /r/volkswagen, vwvortex's regional subforum, and/or audizine. Good Luck.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
What are some of the common issues that I need to be aware of when shopping for a used US market Audi Allroad wagon? I came across a few '01-'03 2.7T models and an '05 4.2 which looks like it could be fun.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009

willroc7 posted:

I can't help you but check /r/volkswagen, vwvortex's regional subforum, and/or audizine. Good Luck.

Thanks. The bosch sensor is on sale from NGP for $45 so if I get impatient I might just pick one up and try it out.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

FreelanceSocialist posted:

I came across a few '01-'03 2.7T models

Run away as fast as you can before it gets ahold of your wallet.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
Getting a very intermittent oil level low (the centre computer screen, not the gently caress you I'm dying light) on my 1.8t despite changing dipstick and tube (though it's been less common since the tube), oil level is fine every time, no codes, only when warm and under load. Goes away when I check the dipstick. I'm guessing the level sender next?


FreelanceSocialist posted:

What are some of the common issues that I need to be aware of when shopping for a used US market Audi Allroad wagon? I came across a few '01-'03 2.7T models and an '05 4.2 which looks like it could be fun.

Like most audis of that age its going to be a lot of fun but it's also going to break a lot as everything comes up on replacement age, so you want to be looking for things like it coming with newish recipts for turbos/timing belt/chain/everything in the drat engine bay or you can expect to shell out for them yourself sometimes soon. As people noted the 2.7 has a lot of issues, and I think it's the 4.2 that had the notoriously bad timing chain job on the firewall side of the engine necessitating a full engine out job, but it was otherwise reasonably solid


Tyro posted:

I'd rather pull the codes if possible

A £5 bluetooth obdII sender and the free version torque app will get you a lot of the code reading abilities you need on the cheap.

DesperateDan fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Dec 29, 2015

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009

DesperateDan posted:

A £5 bluetooth obdII sender and the free version torque app will get you a lot of the code reading abilities you need on the cheap.

Good to know, I never picked one up because I always heard the OBDII readers were of extremely limited usefulness for VWs.

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik
They are, but at least it gets you the code to start researching without having to make a trip to the auto parts store.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
I feel I got my moneys worth for the basic code reading- it identified the cylinder with the duff coil pack, identified an airbag fault (but not which one or reset the code, which my mechanic had to do) and regularly tells me the secondary air pump is hosed, all three of those didn't throw a check engine light and I would have been clueless what to do otherwise. It's then worth more than that for having torque be able to readout a bunch of useful data and show it realtime.

Anyone have experience with the knock-off vag-com cables?

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin

FreelanceSocialist posted:

What are some of the common issues that I need to be aware of when shopping for a used US market Audi Allroad wagon? I came across a few '01-'03 2.7T models and an '05 4.2 which looks like it could be fun.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3298776&pagenumber=157&perpage=40#post442733854

It would be cheaper to lease a brand new one. Additional benefits include the brand new one being more likely to "run" and "drive".

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.
Not even if you're MacGyver

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

dissss posted:

Not even if you're MacGyver



That look is him trying to figure out how to make enough thermite to erase it from the face of the earth.

I think once you replace the turbos, all the plumbing for them, and the intake that you have a fairly reliable engine. Having looked at B5 S4's in the past, people generally recommend having about $10k sitting in the bank if you still have stock turbos for when they fail. Because they're going to fail.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Goddamnit. Oh well, guess it's back to looking at Volvo R wagons.

Voltage
Sep 4, 2004

MALT LIQUOR!
Just hit 200 miles in my new '16 jetta and the check engine light came on.... Yes I checked the gas cap. I guess this is what I get for making GBS threads on VW reliability all the time :negative:

Brock Landers
Jul 28, 2004

You're a donkey. I like that.

Voltage posted:

Just hit 200 miles in my new '16 jetta and the check engine light came on.... Yes I checked the gas cap. I guess this is what I get for making GBS threads on VW reliability all the time :negative:

It's OK. My new '16 Passat's blind spot monitor has been false alerting on the driver's side and the HVAC blower has a slight whistle that comes and goes. Just shy of 300 miles. Neither is a deal breaker but it means time wasted at the dealer.

Kashwashwa
Jul 11, 2006
You'll do fine no matter what. That's my motto.
I think I'm finally done with my 2006 Jetta... I thought I had an exhaust rattle so I took it in to be looked at. Turns out the noise was coming from between the tranny and motor, so it's either the clutch or flywheel. They found a chunk of broken spring sitting on a part of the car just below the bellhousing. The car has 178,000 KM (~111,000 miles)... maybe that's not ridiculous for the clutch or flywheel to let go, but it's at an age where it's seriously nickeling and diming me. I just had to replace an axle 2 weeks ago.

What's the most reliable auto maker? I think I'm going to buy a lexus...

Voltage
Sep 4, 2004

MALT LIQUOR!
A axle, clutch and flywheel can happen to a lot of cars - the clutch is basically a wear item like a big brake pad, and you should replace the flywheel at the same time. Be thankful its not electrical bullshit.

If you want dead reliable than yeah, Toyota/Lexus.

borkencode
Nov 10, 2004
Here's a talk by a couple guys that looked at how the cheating software worked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZSU1FPDiao First 20 minutes is mostly dissing the "management did nothing wrong" stance.

Kashwashwa
Jul 11, 2006
You'll do fine no matter what. That's my motto.

Voltage posted:

A axle, clutch and flywheel can happen to a lot of cars - the clutch is basically a wear item like a big brake pad, and you should replace the flywheel at the same time. Be thankful its not electrical bullshit.

If you want dead reliable than yeah, Toyota/Lexus.


If only it was that the clutch was worn... Apparently a spring broke, and damaged the clutch and flywheel, so everything needs to be replaced.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Kashwashwa posted:

If only it was that the clutch was worn... Apparently a spring broke, and damaged the clutch and flywheel, so everything needs to be replaced.

But it's a 1.8T/2.0/VR6, so clutches and flywheels are available from dozens of places at dirt cheap prices.

Kashwashwa
Jul 11, 2006
You'll do fine no matter what. That's my motto.

meatpimp posted:

But it's a 1.8T/2.0/VR6, so clutches and flywheels are available from dozens of places at dirt cheap prices.

Try and find a 2.0t flywheel for dirt cheap... they don't exist. Rockauto has by far the cheapest, it's $461 CDN. The exact same one is $1105 in Canada.

Voltage
Sep 4, 2004

MALT LIQUOR!
So I pulled the codes on my '16 jetta, it's "P0556 - Brake booster pressure sensor electrical circuit was out of its operating range or had a performance problem for a predetermined period of time"

I'm thinking maybe a vacuum line came loose in shipping or was never put on right from the factory?

I'm bringing it to the dealer Tuesday so hopefully it's a quick fix. Car drives fine and brakes seem alright.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

borkencode posted:

Here's a talk by a couple guys that looked at how the cheating software worked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZSU1FPDiao First 20 minutes is mostly dissing the "management did nothing wrong" stance.

Mind giving the tldr? I'm at work and can't watch it.

Drunk Pledge Driver
Nov 10, 2004

meatpimp posted:

But it's a 1.8T/2.0/VR6, so clutches and flywheels are available from dozens of places at dirt cheap prices.

I'll sell ya one!

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik
Did the trans fluid on the wife's b6 Passat wagon today, nothing spectacular but I do love the jobs that save me $250 in labor for 3 hours work.

I hate the drat gravity fill for the 09g transmissions, takes flipping forever. I also don't like the "fill it up, get it up to temp, let it drain, and hope you got the right fill level," method, makes me paranoid as poo poo I over/under filled it for weeks.

totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.

Cyrano4747 posted:

Mind giving the tldr? I'm at work and can't watch it.

The guy reverse engineered the ECU in his particular diesel vw (which has an scr system) and found that there were two models for how much urea to inject: one which you might consider to be "closed loop" and one which you might consider "open loop" . The code that determined whether to use the open loop or closed loop model basically went like this:
If (whole bunch of impossible parameters like T>3000) OR T>-3000, which meant this was always TRUE, AND (and this is the good part) distance driven / time was within a predefined min/max curve THEN use the "closed loop" model. Otherwise, use the "open loop" model.

There were three curves but if you took the NEDC drive cycle and integrated it to get distance / time, it fit within one of those predefined curves PERFECTLY.

So basically, when driving on the NEDC cycle, the car would run the standard model (" closed loop") and inject urea (AdBlue) normally. However, if you were not driving on that cycle, basically, then your car ran the alternative model ("open loop") and urea injection was zero.

I don't understand the point of it, though, because they were clearly able to meet emissions with proper urea injection. But maybe they were not able to calibrate it to avoid urea slip, it consumed too much urea, or something. I don't know. But it was pretty damning.

totalnewbie fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Jan 1, 2016

Kramdar
Jun 21, 2005

Radmark says....Worship Kramdar

Kashwashwa posted:

Try and find a 2.0t flywheel for dirt cheap... they don't exist. Rockauto has by far the cheapest, it's $461 CDN. The exact same one is $1105 in Canada.

Yeah when I checked prices on a clutch pack and flywheel for my wife's TDI, I couldn't find any deals. At least compared to what the dealer had originally quoted me.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Kashwashwa posted:

Try and find a 2.0t flywheel for dirt cheap... they don't exist. Rockauto has by far the cheapest, it's $461 CDN. The exact same one is $1105 in Canada.

All over junkyards, I'd imagine vortex, http://www.ebay.com/itm/FX-STAGE-1-...4tTxGJP&vxp=mtr :shrug:

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009



that's for the 2.0 N/A which has been around since the 80s.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗
poo poo, wish I had seen this thread earlier. Junkyard earlier had two of them on the lot.

Along with no less than 12 VR6s :v:

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Powershift posted:

that's for the 2.0 N/A which has been around since the 80s.

His car is a 2006, were the 2.0t motors out in 2006? If they were, I don't think they were in the US... :shrug:

Edit: can't be US... 2006 Jettas were A5 with the 2.5 motor on release...

meatpimp fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Jan 1, 2016

Brock Landers
Jul 28, 2004

You're a donkey. I like that.

meatpimp posted:

His car is a 2006, were the 2.0t motors out in 2006? If they were, I don't think they were in the US... :shrug:

Edit: can't be US... 2006 Jettas were A5 with the 2.5 motor on release...

I had a 2006 MKV Jetta 2.0T. Also the 2006 GLI model had the 2.0T IIRC.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
If its not a 5 cylinder, you got the wrong Audi.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Sitting in the dealership now getting my 20k inspection and tdi bribe. The guy activating the cards tried to sell me in getting a new VW loving :laffo:

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Cyrano4747 posted:

Sitting in the dealership now getting my 20k inspection and tdi bribe. The guy activating the cards tried to sell me in getting a new VW loving :laffo:

Why would you expect any different from any dealer?

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

Cyrano4747 posted:

Sitting in the dealership now getting my 20k inspection and tdi bribe. The guy activating the cards tried to sell me in getting a new VW loving :laffo:

When I picked my bribe up the salesman helping me had only been there for a week and had already drank way too much of the koolaid. Poor guy had no idea how hosed the brand is after this debacle.

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi

Cyrano4747 posted:

Sitting in the dealership now getting my 20k inspection and tdi bribe. The guy activating the cards tried to sell me in getting a new VW loving :laffo:

When I went in for a battery change a month or two back I wasn't even approached once, even after asking about the Golf :argh:.

:argh:

Drunk Pledge Driver
Nov 10, 2004

Kashwashwa posted:

Try and find a 2.0t flywheel for dirt cheap... they don't exist. Rockauto has by far the cheapest, it's $461 CDN. The exact same one is $1105 in Canada.

I've got on from my 2009 GTI's blown motor. It the TSI engine with a DSG that had 73.5k miles on it if that makes a difference. Would part with it for cheap.

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Kashwashwa
Jul 11, 2006
You'll do fine no matter what. That's my motto.

meatpimp posted:

His car is a 2006, were the 2.0t motors out in 2006? If they were, I don't think they were in the US... :shrug:

Edit: can't be US... 2006 Jettas were A5 with the 2.5 motor on release...

It's a canadian 2006 Jetta 2.0T. It's a non-gli version, I think it was called "premium" or something like that.

Drunk Pledge Driver posted:

I've got on from my 2009 GTI's blown motor. It the TSI engine with a DSG that had 73.5k miles on it if that makes a difference. Would part with it for cheap.

I ordered parts on Thursday, thanks for the offer.

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