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Crash74 posted:y u so butt hurt about a video game? B..B...But his space dreams... and his $2500+ 'investment'... He's far too invested to think sanely and logically. Here Gryphon, have a poster for your bedroom wall: 
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Unfunny Poster posted:That makes sense since EVE was coded in Python and hasn't/can't be changed away from that. The GIL was their enemy last time I talked to them. That's what brought about that tidi system. They're smart guys though so I'm sure they'll figure it out so they can keep doing their million dollar battles. CIG not so much.
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fuctifino posted:B..B...But the space dreams...
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This is how I imagine Chris's workday to be
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Madcosby posted:The problem will always be what they promised. Which is everything. And they charged for it. More money than any other game in existence. Oh it's much worse than that. The Bengal Carrier was declared a playable starship and it's 1.4 kilometers long. At the very least they have to provide gameplay for Javelins which are 345 meters long and those have flight decks as well. Their instance cap won't even provide enough crew for a single capital ship, let alone a battle.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Oh it's much worse than that. The Bengal Carrier was declared a playable starship and it's 1.4 kilometers long. At the very least they have to provide gameplay for Javelins which are 345 meters long and those have flight decks as well. Their instance cap won't even provide enough crew for a single capital ship, let alone a battle. Early days
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Eonwe posted:Early days Indeed. Then again this is the BDSSE we're talking about. It will obviously be worth the wwit. poo poo like this can only increase the value of the house.
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hi Ben, I hope your vacation is going well This is your weekly reminder that you still have time to become a greater man. Even if there are NDA's, you can quit and send a very clear message. Purge yourself of this blight. I believe in you, Citizen.
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D_Smart posted:It's spread out across a series of blogs offered below in chrono order. The most recent one is a synopsis. So basically what you're saying is that if you... YOU, Derek Smart (whoever the gently caress you are), if YOU can not build Star Citizen then NOBODY can. You spent 25 years trying to build this game (which explains why you now sound so utterly insane) and you failed so miserably that now you're on a one man crusade attempting to bitterly denounce a developer who may now be realising YOUR dream and proving that it can in fact be done, thus making you... Derek Smart (along with your games), look like a steaming pile of dogshit.
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what if we started a patreon account for Ben and his wife on the condition that they quit. Enough for them to get by and get back on their feet. If we build it, will he come?
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Laserpig posted:So basically what you're saying is that if you... YOU, Derek Smart (whoever the gently caress you are), if YOU can not build Star Citizen then NOBODY can. yea chris roberts is so close to making that dream a reality in 2 weeks
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Laserpig posted:So basically what you're saying is that if you... YOU, Derek Smart (whoever the gently caress you are), if YOU can not build Star Citizen then NOBODY can. How much do you have invested citizen?
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fuctifino posted:How much do you have invested citizen? £0.00 I am drawing my own conclusions from an entirely neutral perspective, I read Derek's blog / articles, I've heard what he has to say, and the only fitting conclusion I can draw from his points is written in the post you quoted me on. That's not me trolling, that's not me being a SC jpeg addict, that's not me being in a bad mood, it's my absolute natural response to reading Derek's attention-seeking rants. I'm wondering why he chose SA as a platform for his whining? He talks about the whole situation as if he genuinely believes he has bucket loads of credibility, self-glorifying himself to be some sort of master developer within the genre, his games are feces and he is delusional to consider himself a credible source of intelligence on the matter.
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Ezekeel posted:We are all wired into a survival trip now. No more of the speed that fueled 2013. That was the fatal flaw in Chris Roberts's trip. He crashed around America selling "The Best drat Space Sim Ever" without ever giving a thought to the grim meat-hook realities that were lying in wait for all the people who took him seriously... All those pathetically eager space whales who thought they could buy their I-Win ship for 1250 bucks a hit. But their loss and failure is ours too. What Roberts took down with him was the central illusion of a whole crowd funding style that he helped create... a generation of permanent cripples, failed seekers, who never understood the essential old-mystic fallacy of the Star Citizen Culture: the desperate assumption that somebody... or at least some force - is building a game at the end of the tunnel. perfect in every way
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Laserpig posted:£0.00 Can you please give me a completely neutral professional threat assessment of D_Smart? tia
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Laserpig posted:So basically what you're saying is that if you... YOU, Derek Smart (whoever the gently caress you are), if YOU can not build Star Citizen then NOBODY can. Finally something cool! Hey friend, looks like you got a little pain behind those eyes.
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Laserpig posted:£0.00 stick it too him buy "investing" your second mortgage into star citizen, get 10 of thoes 15k spaceships Crash74 fucked around with this message at 08:10 on Jan 2, 2016 |
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Decrepus posted:Can you please give me a completely neutral professional threat assessment of D_Smart? tia Level of threat he poses to the success (or failure) of SC, on a scale of 0 - 10... 0. Level of threat he poses to the physical well-being of me personally, on a scale of 0 - 10... 0, left right goodnight Dr. Smart, I wouldn't even need to take my watch off. Laserpig fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Jan 2, 2016 |
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We got another live one. Let's not run this one out right away. Pump him for the laughs first.
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Laserpig posted:Judging by the promises, the budget... and then the Alpha, I'm finding it difficult to see how this game could possibly be released within a decade from now. False alarm guys, it's just a troll. Also, I hope you didn't actually buy a Rolex, that's almost as bad as buying Star Citizen jpegs.
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Laserpig posted:I'm wondering why he chose SA as a platform for his whining? He didn't and it still isn't really. SA had been calling this game a scam for years, Derek caught wind of what was going on with the company from people working there. He heard enough bad poo poo that he wrote a blog about it, CIG responded, and now it's become a feud. He started posting here mainly because his sentiment meshed with the thread. Yes, he is insane, and that's part of what makes the thread fun. I haven't played his games so I can't comment on them. They seem to have their own niche of spergy videogame players who like the mechanics under the hood. From what I understand his games can be technically impressive at the expense of being necessarily fun. The point is, Derek actually releases games, regardless of what you think of their quality. Chris Roberts is bilking people out of money for a game that doesn't exist and will never exist. It transcends the question of who is the better developer. Star Citizen used the medium of videogames to commit fraud. It's hosed up, and if an eccentric retired millionaire wants to spend his time exposing it than good on him. also what is it with you and talking about your watch in every post?
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Laserpig posted:Level of threat he poses to the physical well-being of me personally, on a scale of 0 - 10... 0, left right goodnight Dr. Smart, I wouldn't even need to take my watch off. What about Chris Roberts then, what impact has your definitely $0.00 investment had on your physical (or psychological) well-being?
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:What about Chris Roberts then, what impact has your definitely $0.00 investment had on your physical (or psychological) well-being? Chris Roberts likes his watch
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The Line of Defense Tactics game has worse graphics than that Earth 2150 game that came out in 2002.
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Laserpig posted:Level of threat he poses to the success of SC, on a scale of 0 - 10... 0. 
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BMan posted:False alarm guys, it's just a troll. See, neutral I've never said SC is what RSI claim, I'm just saying Derek is a dickhead with zero credibility.
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Laserpig posted:See, neutral I bet he has a nicer watch than you
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Laserpig posted:Level of threat he poses to the success (or failure) of SC, on a scale of 0 - 10... 0. lol that's like the third time you have mentioned   MY ROLEX in a star citizen thread
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Laserpig posted:Level of threat he poses to the success (or failure) of SC, on a scale of 0 - 10... 0. [video game enthusiast watches derek smart typing at a computer] time to give him the ol' one-two [goes to remove his casio watch] no... i can still type without maximum wrist flexion. and what if i need to know the date and time?
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Laserpig posted:Level of threat he poses to the success of SC, on a scale of 0 - 10... 0. Listen friend, you're in the first stage of this thing. That's anger. You need to really let flow right on through you, it's the only way to kick this healing party off properly. Your spine is gonna tingle with rage. You're gonna blame Derek, you're gonna blame journos who don't "get it," you're gonna blame goons. Heck. You might even blame me. But that's good, it's all a part of your journey out from under the muddy silt-covered bottom of the brown sea and up into the light. I can tell you it's probably gonna get worse before it gets better. But if you stay with us, eyes focused on the dim light of the sun, in time you'll see we're here to help. Don't look back. Oh, a new day's breakin'. It's been too long, since ah felt this a-waaaaay.
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The fact that Derek Smart is posting drama on sa makes it all the funnier, hes been doing poo poo like this for 15 years. where do you think Derek Smart's desktop commander came from?
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I have the Disney watch that plays music. Am I cool?
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Crash74 posted:The fact that Derek Smart is posting drama on sa makes it all the funnier, hes been doing poo poo like this for 15 years. where do you think Derek Smart's desktop commander came from? It's a great time to be a goon.
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this thread needed an lol injection, im glad
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Wait does this mean in 15 years Derek is going to be posting drama on star citzens fourms?
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Madcosby posted:it was a different time. Arc The Smug Smuggler Q: "What will the Outlaw Mothership run on? Tears or dead babies?" A: Solidarity, loyalty, trust, and mutual interest. And the blood of many dead babies. Cheshire asks: Q1. What ships do you own? A: All the ships, but not all of them are on my main account. Q2. What ship do you favor most? A: Reclaimer, Banu, Xi’An Scout, Caterpillar, Endevour. I will play a scientist non-combat alt. Q3. Boxers or briefs? A: Whatever my girlfriend buys, tends to be boxer-briefs. Anti-Squeaker asks: Q1. "What makes you think that the UOM can stand up to a cohesive force of equal skill?" A: No way to know, but it will be fun to try, that's major consequence, emotionally charged PvP action. What's especially interesting to me is that this is a 24/7 persistent asset, which means even if we manage to get one, I won't be able to be there to defend it all the time. I am hoping others will become dedicated to the project as it matures matures and they see the benefits, you know, they see it's in their interest to realize the UOM project and keep it protected. Q2. "The entire point of the UOM is that no one is really in charge, which makes 50 ships doing their own thing vs 50 ships on tight comms with a set battle plan a bit of an uneven fight." A: VOIP and radio discipline are basic, if we don't have those, we're not organized enough to take a persistent capital ship in the first place. We'll have a server, even my small 30 man clan has a Mumble server. Q3. "How is the crew of the UOM going to be handled?" A: I don't know, we'll probably make it up as we go along. I think trying to set everything in stone long before we've even touched the game would be foolish. Kind of like linking the real dollar and space credit value of virtual spaceships before you even have a game economy designed. Q4. "Does every captain/org leader get a vote on who has command access to drive the UOM? Or will it be an immobile base" A: Again we'll figure it out as we go. The ship definitely won't be immoble, the whole point is that it's a roving city for outlaws. If things get too hot in a given sector, outlaws need to be able to hightail it out of there, right? I like the idea of it hiding in some distant nebula. Q5. What, if any, countermeasures are planned to stop their being a coup/hostile takeover of the UOM? After all, it's not like your working with "reputable" people in the 'verse. A: Pirates will have reputations like everyone else. Loyalty, relationships, those are vital currency for any outlaw. If you can't build and maintain relationships, you're not going to get very far as a professional space criminal. A coup could very well happen, and I think it would make for a great story if it did. Q6. What are you going to do when TEST finds the first Bengal, spends millions of UEC repairing it and refitting it, and just blows it up for shits and giggles? A: I’d congratulate them on being the first org in the game to get a Bengal, and be I’d ready with a fleet of reclaimers. Chip Ninja: Q1: Are there any planned solutions to spy on organizations of interest , and will it be an effort that is managed by one group or is the intent to rely on the "good nature" of outlaws (so to speak) who would like to provide info in order to maintain a relatively neutral zone? A: I'm going to be operating under the assumption that every org will be more or less spying on every other org. I'm obviously not going to reveal any kind of sensitive information on my end. Q2: Who will be responsible for performing patrols and other more covert intel gathering ops? A: I think every participating outlaw should contribute whatever intel they deem useful. Q3: How do you intend to deal with more concerted efforts to subvert or destroy UOM via the use of metagaming? A: Real money will probably be involved in that department on my end. We'll have to see how seriously our foes take their games. I take my gaming very seriously. Q4: How will the location of the UOM be distributed to outlaws once it has been established? A: I don't know enough about the game to answer this yet, but I agree it is an area that will require thought and careful planning. Q5: Will there be a vetting process or some other sort of verification to ensure that UOM isn't constantly being assaulted by large groups of do-gooders? A: Probably. I imagine we'll end up needing a blacklist fairly quickly, who knows, we may end up switching to a whitelist if it gets bad enough. Q6: Could you explain the PvP slider? A: Nope. Q7: What self destruct is good for? A: Voiding your insurance. Glabro: Q: Seraph do you love me? A: Yes, of course I love you Glabro. Cedr: Q: "What other games do you play than Civ V?" A: Dying Light, Depth, Endless Legends, Space Engineers MINA-HAZUKI: Q: Why is a Pirate a Pirate? A: I can only speak for myself. I'm a pirate because I want a great challenge and a grand adventure. I want to steal from the rich and give to the poor. I want to fight the good fight against the evil empire. I see piracy as a very effective, extremely militant social movement. SilentRuin: Q: What's your take on the senseless whining over mods and some posters inability to take responsibility for their own actions? A: I'm not sure what you mean, could you be a little more specific please? Torson Bentiris: Q: What does "freedom" means to you and you pack? A: Survival against the odds. As long as we're alive, we're free. Q: Will you stop by in Neo Libertatia? (Or how ever this place will be named in the PU?) A: Certainly. Q: Whats your favorite drink? A: Sriracha, pickle juice, and vodka B.K.: Q: Once your base is established, will it be possible to refuel and trade with you guys, even tho I'm not a pirate but merely a smuggler who bends the laws slightly? A: Probably yes. I suppose it will depend on the level of threat posed to the mothership on a day to day basis. The Legendary Commander Cain asks: Q1: How do you plan to divide the spoils among your followers from the revenue you take in? A: I don't have followers, only equals. As far as the spoils, I think everyone who benefits from the ship should share responsibility on an as-needed to keep it spaceworthy. Beyond that every pirate can handle their own financial affairs. Q2: Do you plan on fielding your own support ships, or will you rely on independent contractors? Same question for combat ships. A: Fielding our own as much as possible, I'd hope. But who knows how it will play out. Q3: Do you plan to use the Outlaw Mothership in direct combat, or will it remain a hidden logistical node? A: Direct combat will happen whether or not we plan for it. I expect the UOM will be involved in combat defensively, at least as often as any other operational Bengal would, probably more. Offensively sounds like fun too. Guess we'll see. Deedee-101: Q: How much of a badass are you? A: I am 99.5% pure unadulterated badass. Starbeans: Q: "Why didn't you keep your mouth shut and not get banned so we can ask you questions directly?" A: Because that's just not who I am, dear. I'm a superhero, and my power is that I can morph from a reasonable and calm adult into belligerent rear end in a top hat instantly under the right set of conditions, which just so happens to be disrespectful authority figures. Not a very practical super power, I know. The reason you can't mention my name is that any acknowledgment that I exist within this community has become uncomfortable for them, as it reveals their lie that I do not exist. A banishment, or forced exile - a severing of another person’s lines of communication - is an act of hierarchical legitimized social violence. It is violence because human beings are social animals, we need relationships just as we need air and water, and our primate brains can’t distinguish between physical and emotional pain. That's why CIG doesn't believe they need to explain their moderation actions to you. There will never be any transparency, they're not accountable to you. They're above you in the Star Citizen hierarchy. “Civilization is based on a clearly defined and widely accepted yet often unarticulated hierarchy. Violence done by those higher on the hierarchy to those lower is nearly always invisible, that is, unnoticed. When it is noticed, it is fully rationalized. Violence done by those lower on the hierarchy to those higher is unthinkable, and when it does occur is regarded with shock, horror, and the fetishization of the victims.” -Premise 4, Endgame. Derrick Jensen https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A58OOuwljUoS4NzpuFK04db6XxyFn4Pwp6aTNKP_c2g/edit (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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Justin Tyme posted:lol that's like the third time you have mentioned I'm sorry, on Christmas Eve I had the privilege of playing poker in Manchester with a certain premier league football player, I commented on his watch and he gave it to me, turned out to be a £15,000 Everose gold yachtmaster Rolex, I'm going to sell it, but for now it's strapped firmly onto my wrist. Quite lucky.
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