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spacetoaster posted:That's cool. I love it.
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Laserpig posted:Not really, I mean did just discover than he grew up in the same city as I did so I do like him a little more than I previously did, but I wouldn't go as far as to say I support him, I've never spent a penny on any of his games, he's not Manchester United. No wonder you're unhappy, it's all the loving rain.
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TTerrible posted:Laserpig, laserpig, does whatever chris roberts says 
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Eonwe posted:Dick Shart Derek not so Smart
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TTerrible posted:Laserpig, laserpig, does whatever chris roberts says lol
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Tippis posted:It was brought up earlier, but there's also the other aspect of being a fairly small industry: getting a reputation as a malcontent and a gossiper can hurt you down the line, even if you're being mad and gossiping about a truly horrible environment. This is true. But I'm talking more along the lines of gently persuading people not to take a job or contract with them, or just an aura of dysfunction around CIG. I cannot imagine there is the perception that it is a healthy work environment at all. Hahah, oh God, James Cameron. I remember stories of people that worked on the Abyss. There was an apocryphal story about an actor that had to go to the bathroom, but taking the suit off was such an chore and all the actors were so tired of working on it that day they basically said 'You'd better piss in that suit'. At least you knew James Cameron made some good poo poo and it might just be worth the pain in the end. With CRoberts uhh, no. Just no.
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AP posted:No wonder you're unhappy, it's all the loving rain. Also he's stuck doing a gimmick on the unfunny side of an internet thing. e:That's not fair, he might just hold an opinion that stops him from having fun.
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Yeah, I don't know why people come into this thread unhappy, either we get the best space game ever, or we get to watch people who've spent thousands expecting the best space game ever get handed a bag of poo poo. What's not to like?
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Tippis posted:I wish I were in space. My washing machine is so noisy. Level it, you scrub. Laserpig posted:Well then you're a loving retard if that's what you believe, if his company is taking in more than $2mil every month then they're nowhere near to running out of money, which is what Dickhead Smart is suggesting... And what you are believing. If their burn rate is $2.1 million, they have a problem. Look, you're not very good at this, just lurk a bit more.
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TTerrible posted:Laserpig, laserpig, does whatever chris roberts says this made me laugh out loud at work
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Hav posted:Specifically, she's attempting to take the mantle of seniority by re-iterating all the reasons why you should listen to her. Bad move from anyone with a passing fancy to be in PR, she makes it about herself rather than the product. Look at the frequency of 'I' in her emails... Entering your favorite porn tags is coding, right? And when he uploads the smugporn of him and Sandi, he's heard that's called transcoding...
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Laserpig posted:Well then you're a loving retard if that's what you believe, if his company is taking in more than $2mil every month then they're nowhere near to running out of money, which is what Dickhead Smart is suggesting... And what you are believing. You realize there have been examples of companies making a hundred plus million dollars and then just dropping dead overnight because they were mismanaged into the ground? Curt Schlling lost 75 million dollars in loan money which was in addition to $50 million of his own money he put in and Firefly studios didn't make payroll this Christmas. And those are just videogame companies. And you use puns unironically. Holy gently caress you are stupid. Dapper Dan fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Jan 5, 2016 |
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Concerning this game, my lords, you now all know enough for the understanding of our plight, and of Robert's. If he builds it, your valour is vain, and his victory will be swift and complete: so complete that none can foresee the end of it while this world lasts. - from the Goon Council meetings, as envisioned by backers
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Pack it up guys, the party is over, they figured it out. Good attempt, Beer.
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Laserpig posted:Who really gives a poo poo, you are a spastic to believe that if you head a $100mil company which brings in over $2mil/month that every single penny should go towards development and the people of the company should live their personal lives on the absolute loving minimum, it's people like you who expect Chris to be eating beans on toast every day because the extra money it would cost to eat steak is strictly for game development only, you are DELUSIONAL! 
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Eonwe posted:this made me laugh out loud at work My posting career is complete, grand elephant.
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tooterfish posted:It's funny how you notice new things in these every time you look. Dude, in the verse, you don't have TIIIIMMMMMEEEE to do laundry. Plus I didn't buy the Launderer Lord package, so, ummmm, yeah...
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Daztek posted:Pack it up guys, the party is over, they figured it out. Good attempt, Beer. Derek Smart, isn't this a ground for lawsuit? He just called you a faker maker
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Dapper Dan posted:This is true. But I'm talking more along the lines of gently persuading people not to take a job or contract with them, or just an aura of dysfunction around CIG. I cannot imagine there is the perception that it is a healthy work environment at all. Yes, that's for sure. I'm just thinking about the reasons for people to stick around: it's not all that likely to hurt their future prospects in the industry — it's a bit unhealthy that way — whereas having a normal human reaction to the situation would. So while the company will probably find itself increasingly isolated, the people doing the actual work most likely will not, if and when they get an opportunity to leave. quote:Hahah, oh God, James Cameron. I remember stories of people that worked on the Abyss. There was an apocryphal story about an actor that had to go to the bathroom, but taking the suit off was such an chore and all the actors were so tired of working on it that day they basically said 'You'd better piss in that suit'. At least you knew James Cameron made some good poo poo and it might just be worth the pain in the end. With CRoberts uhh, no. Just no. Yes, it became the standard for the entire crew. Since they were working at depth for so long, it wasn't just a matter of getting out of the suit, but also of decompressing, and no-one had time for that. When it was time for a shot, everyone had to be ready, and that meant staying underwater for an entire day (and going through numerous oxygen tank refills in the process). The documentary includes an example of Cameron staying under for 10+ hours, and then using the 2-hour decompression wait to review dailies. But yes, in terms of the final product, CRobber is about as far away from a Cameron as one could possibly imagine. The only similarity I was aiming for was the punishing work environment for the crew. Tippis fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Jan 5, 2016 |
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Lol if you don't think laserpig is karl
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Lazerpig is an Eve J4G.quote:Just returned to EVE, time to learn the game properly now because I've just come to the realization that no matter how many times I type "best PvP/Sandbox MMO" into google, I'm never going to find anything other than a pile of dogshit if I don't just suck it up and get back into EVE. He's a whiney little bitch too. quote:God I miss this game, if it wasn't for... Losing 100bil on iwi, being such a bored lone wolf, stripping down my gaming PC, getting a full time job, having a baby on the way and some other stuff, then I'd be still be AFK in lowsec right now whilst reading about the new WoW expansion and wondering whether or not star citizen will actually deliver after collecting a few frozen corpses. He also thinks rape jokes are REALLY funny quote:Was she browsing reddit?.. yes? rape her.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGwhMHNmPpA This is a pro-click documentary about the making of The Abyss.
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Laserpig posted:Well then you're a loving retard if that's what you believe, if his company is taking in more than $2mil every month then they're nowhere near to running out of money, which is what Dickhead Smart is suggesting... And what you are believing. It's not very hard to do the math. Frontier Studios is roughly the same size as CIG and if I recall correctly burns around $2.5M per month. CIG has four times as many studios (all four of which were built from the ground up) and is also burning considerable funds on extraneous things like performance capture, AAA actors, numerous independent contractors, and a myriad of other things. I don't necessarily share the view that collapse is imminent, but there are numerous examples of studios going bankrupt without warning while all outward appearances suggest they are fine. 38 Studios is a good example.
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Star Citizen has the biggest gathering of sycophants, I've ever seen. One has to wonder, is it Chris conning the shitizens or the shitizens conning Chris? Maybe Chris doesn't know his game is bad, because the shitizens won't allow any criticism of the game to pass? It's the Great Sycophant Con.
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 a perfectly sane and humble individual posted:Truth be known my life was way more grand before all of this started and I'm pretty confident I am the most formally educated person in this whole company hehe
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Xaerael posted:Lazerpig is an Eve J4G. Never J4G, I'm a J4Best online community because I like discussing poo poo, I was aware of SA way before I had ever played EVE and had no interest in playing with goonswarm because they played the game in a different way to how I did.
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if you have to tell people how educated you are, its because you don't think of yourself as a very smart person its just a coping mechanic to reassure yourself
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Laserpig posted:Never J4G, i personally dont care why you joined i just like that you are posting your bad opinions here for me to laugh at
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calusari posted:
Imagine if that were true. I mean, she probably doesn't count the education that goes into acquiring all those technical skills that the actual developers have, and at that point, it makes a very scary amount of sense…
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calusari posted:
That's not how you spell "formerly"!
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calusari posted:
That's cool. I'm the most casually educated person on these forums.
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calusari posted:
Working for someone as pompous as this must make for a really nice office environment, especially when they don't know the first thing about the industry they're in.
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Laserpig posted:I think you will find it is, actually. Call the FTC? False advertising is against the law you know.
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Eonwe posted:i personally dont care why you joined At least somebody appreciates my presence, somebody even labelled me a goon earlier in the thread, I feel honoured, gently caress the guy who told me to lurk more. poo poo I might even buy myself an avatar.
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peter gabriel posted:
Not emptyquoting, but really, this. This is all there is to say.
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James Cameron will personally nail gun your phone to the studio wall if it goes off.
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Tippis posted:Yes, that's for sure. I'm just thinking about the reasons for people to stick around: it's not all that likely to hurt their future prospects in the industry — it's a bit unhealthy that way — whereas having a normal human reaction to the situation would. So while the company will probably find itself increasingly isolated, the people doing the actual work most likely will not, if and when they get an opportunity to leave. No, their prospects will be perfectly fine. Chris Roberts likes taking on the 'visionary' role, he forgets what happens when visionaries fail: they take 100% of the blame because they themselves have taken 100% of control. Of course he doesn't actually think he's going to fail and obviously there is a limit to how much people will take. I imagine as the pressure builds and the situation gets even more volatile, no amount of money will be able to keep some people there and he'll be stuck with people who have no other choice which will just make things even worse I mean, at least with Cameron you know he was enduring it as well with the Abyss. Like you said, he was under there just as long and even reviewing dallies during decompression. But there's nothing making it worthwhile with CRoberts. I can't even imagine it. And yeah, I figured. It is just hard to ignore since Roberts links himself with those visionary directors. Beer4TheBeerGod posted:It's not very hard to do the math. Frontier Studios is roughly the same size as CIG and if I recall correctly burns around $2.5M per month. CIG has four times as many studios (all four of which were built from the ground up) and is also burning considerable funds on extraneous things like performance capture, AAA actors, numerous independent contractors, and a myriad of other things. I don't necessarily share the view that collapse is imminent, but there are numerous examples of studios going bankrupt without warning while all outward appearances suggest they are fine. 38 Studios is a good example. Since I'm thinking about it, another example outside of gaming was the movie 'Heaven's Gate'. It bears a lot of similarities to Chris Roberts. It came after Deer Hunter, which was hugely successful and made Michael Cimino a visionary director. It was the most extravagant production of the 1980s and had three studios involved in it. It went massively over-budget and over time (It cost $122 million) and made a paltry 4 million at the box office. It killed the studio United Artists and with it, the entire studio system in Hollywood. And these studios made more than Roberts could dream of. This poo poo has happened before and will happen again. To simply go 'lol they make 2 million a month, what could go wrong?' is an unbelivably ignorant statement and blatantly overlooks the fact this poo poo has happened more than once with a lot of consequences. EDIT: Nowadays, Heavens Gate is considered an unrecognized classic. This will never happen with Star Citizen. Just thought I'd add that. The only thing that these analogies don't carry over is the talent, since Roberts is an autistic, talentless hack who has had to be forced to release something. Dapper Dan fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Jan 5, 2016 |
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