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ff12 loving sucks by the way
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Jan 24, 2016 23:26
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What if Lightning is my God
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Jan 24, 2016 23:27
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just play this gme http://store.steampowered.com/app/415920/ its good
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Jan 24, 2016 23:28
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corn in the bible posted:just play this gme http://store.steampowered.com/app/415920/ its good but the characters don't talk like pricks and the devs aren't full of themselves making up half latin-half ancient greek words, how am i supposed to get into this? (voidspire is good and he's right btw)
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Jan 24, 2016 23:38
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The White Dragon posted:but the characters don't talk like pricks and the devs aren't full of themselves making up half latin-half ancient greek words, how am i supposed to get into this? And the characters and their actions actually matter to the plot and the antagonists have interaction with the protagonists before the final 15 mins of the game! (FF12 is not good).
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Jan 24, 2016 23:47
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"Void" from the Latin "vocivos" "Spire" from the Greek "speîra"
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Jan 24, 2016 23:52
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corn in the bible posted:just play this gme http://store.steampowered.com/app/415920/ its good can you make or name units in this
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Jan 25, 2016 00:11
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MrAristocrates posted:Nah that's the Henne Mines, which are even worse
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Jan 25, 2016 00:12
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I remember my first try at Zodiac was a disaster, because my only mage was a Time so I had no defensive buffs, healing, or even haste for hours.
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Jan 25, 2016 00:14
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FactsAreUseless posted:Can you farm for a Zodiac Spear as a random drop in the Henne Mines? I could have sworn it was in the same place as Zodiark. There's a 1/1000 chance of the Zodiac Spear spawning in a specific respawning chest in the Henne Mines.
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Jan 25, 2016 00:20
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Countblanc posted:can you make or name units in this you make and name four dudes and then you FFT their classes
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Jan 25, 2016 00:23
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The White Dragon posted:you make and name four dudes and then you FFT their classes can i make them girls, very important i have an all-girl squad like my favorite final fantasy, FF X-2
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Jan 25, 2016 00:28
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corn in the bible posted:just play this gme http://store.steampowered.com/app/415920/ its good Okay I know it's an indie game and all and usually I'm really forgiving about this but holy poo poo this game is painful to look at.
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Jan 25, 2016 00:43
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mandatory lesbian posted:can i make them girls, very important i have an all-girl squad like my favorite final fantasy, FF X-2 yes, and like final fantasy x-2, (bow)gunner is the most overpowered class
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Jan 25, 2016 00:47
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corn in the bible posted:ff12 loving sucks by the way For real. My earlier statement wasn't meant to be an indictment of the game's quality so much as how I can't play the IZJS version because the Reks opening just brought back bad memories of what that game is and how much I don't like it. I wasn't gonna make a several hours investment to see if I could like that version, because I didn't care enough about that game to begin with.
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Jan 25, 2016 01:22
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The White Dragon posted:but the characters don't talk like pricks and the devs aren't full of themselves making up half latin-half ancient greek words, how am i supposed to get into this? This looks good and fun. I will play this some day when I am done with the 7 games I'm playing right now.
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Jan 25, 2016 05:57
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Help Im Alive posted:What if Lightning is my God Listen I've only just started LR and I am more than convinced that they pretty much made Lightning a god drat time lord. Not to mention the combat system, hoo. First few fights were "Hold this button, switch schemata, hold this button again, switch schemata, repeat ad nauseum". In fact, I almost noped out of the game once I jumped into a pole.
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Jan 25, 2016 07:31
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In 13, is there any way to distinguish between completed Cieth Stones and active but new ones on the map? I know once you get there they glow brighter but I'd really like to be able to know in advance to not bother going there. I'm on PC if there's a mod for that.
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Jan 25, 2016 07:36
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AlphaKretin posted:In 13, is there any way to distinguish between completed Cieth Stones and active but new ones on the map? I know once you get there they glow brighter but I'd really like to be able to know in advance to not bother going there. I'm on PC if there's a mod for that. New ones pulse in intensity instead of staying a consistent glow on on the map screen. It's somehow really hard to see on PC when I had no issue on consoles. An important note, if you've not uncovered the part of the map with the stone, it won't show up even if it's active. Definitely had me confused for a bit for hunt 16.
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Jan 25, 2016 07:45
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FF12 is probably my favourite FF
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Jan 25, 2016 11:42
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corn in the fridge posted:FF12 is probably my favourite FF This is my opinion as well. FFXII is an absolute gem and is one of the few FFs where I find combat legitimately fun and engaging.
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Jan 25, 2016 17:33
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It's not your fault that you missed the V on the keyboard, on most regular keyboard's it's only one key apart.
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Jan 25, 2016 17:37
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I really enjoyed IZJS version of ff12 but vanilla 12 I just couldn't beat or bother with. I don't know who mentioned it, but I'd absolutely love another game using 12s core mechanics but with more things added from other games and more inventive boss fights to take advantage of he mmo style mechanics to force you to truly rethink your gambits.
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Jan 25, 2016 17:40
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It's called FFXIV.
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Jan 25, 2016 17:43
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I think my favourite part of XII was the death march for the Zodiac Spear. It turned vaguely survival horror and it was good fun. I quite liked the game in general, but that was the best bit. Well, that and then being able to just poke everything to death for the next few hours. Never finished it in the end. Poked my head in the last dungeon and then went off to do sidequests and I completely burned out. Actually thinking about it, any part where there was a big buff enemy that would kick my rear end just wandering around I quite liked. I guess going to the Necrohol that just turned out to be every enemy.
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Jan 25, 2016 17:43
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Gologle posted:It's called FFXIV. I played that too, but you only get one character at a time. Give me a nice full party and I'd be in.
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Jan 25, 2016 18:03
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Does FF14 have those lovely sneaking missions like Vaan had
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Jan 25, 2016 18:06
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Tae posted:Does FF14 have those lovely sneaking missions like Vaan had Does pulling more or less mobs if you're in their cone of vision count? Because there is definitely that mechanic in a dungeon.
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Jan 25, 2016 18:12
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HD DAD posted:FFXII is an absolute gem and is one of the few FFs where I find combat legitimately fun and engaging. lol for all the faults 13 has, the combat is way better and more involved than the rest of the series x-2 also has good combat
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Jan 25, 2016 18:13
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:lol I kinda think 13's battle system is overrated a bit, since most battles you open SAB/RAV/RAV (or sometimes SAB/SYN/RAV), after debuffs switch to COM/RAV/RAV or RAV/RAV/RAV until Stagger, then COM/COM/COM if solo enemy. Switch to a paradigm with MED when necessarily, and rarely use SEN/SEN/SEN. Yeah it's slightly more involved than "spam Attack/strongest magic" is for most FF games but if you had FF12's gambit system for 13 I'd be willing to bet you could automate the entire game besides maaaaaybe the Eidolon battles. But then I'm not a big fan of twitch gameplay and prefer to take things slow so that's more the reason I don't like 13's battles that much.
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Jan 25, 2016 18:21
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Mega64 posted:I kinda think 13's battle system is overrated a bit, since most battles you open SAB/RAV/RAV (or sometimes SAB/SYN/RAV), after debuffs switch to COM/RAV/RAV or RAV/RAV/RAV until Stagger, then COM/COM/COM if solo enemy. Switch to a paradigm with MED when necessarily, and rarely use SEN/SEN/SEN. The trick is that if you had FF12's gambit system you could automate every Final Fantasy game because they are largely very simplistic. Honestly you don't even need a gambit system, a reliable auto-battle system with a memory function can do it for most games. FF13's combat system focuses on speed which is probably for the best because depth has never been the franchise's strong suit. (Most of the games do stand better if you do low-level challenges natch.)
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Jan 25, 2016 18:30
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ImpAtom posted:The trick is that if you had FF12's gambit system you could automate every Final Fantasy game because they are largely very simplistic. Honestly you don't even need a gambit system, a reliable auto-battle system with a memory function can do it for most games. FF13's combat system focuses on speed which is probably for the best because depth has never been the franchise's strong suit. Definitely true. Once I did a pseudo-Berserker run for FF4 PSP where I had every battle on Auto with everyone attacking and had no problems until I got to the Sealed Cave. I should probably resume that someday, actually. Using Auto-Battle with memory for bosses would be a nice challenge for 5 and 6 if the ports weren't so meh.
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Jan 25, 2016 18:34
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Mega64 posted:Definitely true. Once I did a pseudo-Berserker run for FF4 PSP where I had every battle on Auto with everyone attacking and had no problems until I got to the Sealed Cave. I should probably resume that someday, actually. That would be an interesting gimmick. Honestly any FF game with a reliable memory function could probably do it with, at worst, a bit of time with setup. FF5 has enough gimmicks that it might be rough but people have basically done all-Berserker runs so being able to do something besides just attack would make it pretty (relatively) easy I think.
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Jan 25, 2016 18:39
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ImpAtom posted:That would be an interesting gimmick. Honestly any FF game with a reliable memory function could probably do it with, at worst, a bit of time with setup. FF5 has enough gimmicks that it might be rough but people have basically done all-Berserker runs so being able to do something besides just attack would make it pretty (relatively) easy I think. I guess you could simulate it by manually only doing one command per character per battle over and over. Doesn't have the same allure as Auto-Battle doing it but you'll actually be at a slight disadvantage since Auto lets the characters act as soon as possible. Think I've found my next gimmick run.
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Jan 25, 2016 18:51
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Hey I noticed the FF4 DS remake was released on Steam, is it any significantly different then the GBA remake (other then augments of course, tho that alone is not enough to make me want it) (also don't mention the after years i'm aware nobody likes that)
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Jan 25, 2016 19:33
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mandatory lesbian posted:Hey I noticed the FF4 DS remake was released on Steam, is it any significantly different then the GBA remake (other then augments of course, tho that alone is not enough to make me want it) Yes, it's significantly differently. It's a full remake and has a lot of changes. It's still the same basic game but has some writing changes, is obviously in 3D, has combat mechanic changes, a few gimmicks and twists the original didn't (augments being a big one), Namingway has been given his own sidequest since you can't change names anymore, stuff like that.
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Jan 25, 2016 19:35
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Gologle posted:It's called FFXIV. XIV looks really boring to play like every MMO Feel free to convince me otherwise if you want. mandatory lesbian posted:Hey I noticed the FF4 DS remake was released on Steam, is it any significantly different then the GBA remake (other then augments of course, tho that alone is not enough to make me want it) Dunno about the Steam port but FF4DS has Augments which give permanent new abilities to your characters and influence their late-game stat boosts, a NG+ mode, two new super bosses, and most importantly the combat balance was completely rebalanced and made harder. It doesn't carry over the optional dungeons or character switching from the GBA version though. I like it a lot. Augus fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Jan 25, 2016 |
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Jan 25, 2016 19:44
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I mean I play FFXIV and I can't really say it's not, it just has more dynamic bosses which give it a more interesting visual flair and it definitely hits the FF nerd grab pretty well.
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Jan 25, 2016 19:45
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ImpAtom posted:Yes, it's significantly differently. It's a full remake and has a lot of changes. It's still the same basic game but has some writing changes, is obviously in 3D, has combat mechanic changes, a few gimmicks and twists the original didn't (augments being a big one), Namingway has been given his own sidequest since you can't change names anymore, stuff like that. Augus posted:Dunno about the Steam port but FF4DS has Augments which give permanent new abilities to your characters and influence their late-game stat boosts, a NG+ mode, two new super bosses, and most importantly the combat balance was completely rebalanced and made harder. It doesn't carry over the optional dungeons or character switching from the GBA version though. Cool thanks, it sounds alright with them rebalancing combat but not bringing back party switching like in the GBA game is disappointing, tho I understand why they wouldn't
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Jan 25, 2016 19:54
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McDragon posted:Actually thinking about it, any part where there was a big buff enemy that would kick my rear end just wandering around I quite liked. I guess going to the Necrohol that just turned out to be every enemy. It's mainly the undead ghost guy, and sometimes horse(they show up rarely, but when they do, RUN. Not worth fighting the undead in FFXII), and Baknamy. The Baknamies(Baknamii?) pretty much always do a combo that only ends if you, or it, dies. The ghost guy is called Oversoul, I believe. You can use the Nihothingie accessory and use a remedy on it, but if you don't get it off before it does an action, you better run. Armitage fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Jan 25, 2016 |
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