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Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Randarkman posted:



I'm working my way through Anatolia and the Caucasus at the moment and just noticed that the province code for Ganja in the Caucasus is 420.

this is why paradox deserves all your pre-orders.

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Popoto
Oct 21, 2012

miaow
So, tried my copy of HoI3 and eeeeeeeh F that. I'll be waiting for the fourth game for casuals and stick with Europa and CK meanwhile.

What's the current estimates for the release? I've been reading between March and June?

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

StarMinstrel posted:

So, tried my copy of HoI3 and eeeeeeeh F that. I'll be waiting for the fourth game for casuals and stick with Europa and CK meanwhile.

What's the current estimates for the release? I've been reading between March and June?
A wise choice. I loved HoI3 but dealing with the OoB and all the micro is just not worth it anymore.

I have not seen a reasonable estimate/guestimate lately but I may be out of the loop.

OhGreatAGinger
Oct 10, 2012
Now see, I was one of those freaks who took perverse pleasure in organizing my OOBs and even in micromanaging individual divisions in HOI3 (I even used the BlackICE mod, yep, THAT bad).

What killed it for me was that planes had to be babysat for most of their flight because if you got distracted and they got into trouble, they'd just fly into a cloud of flak and enemy fighters repeatedly until they died and that having any navy at all wasn't necessary so long as you remembered to build more cargo ships and escorts from time to time.

Poor HOI3, it was so ambitious that it had something to hate for everyone.

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
For most countries sorting out your forces at the beginning of the game wasn't that bad - particularly the USA which has like no army or air force at the beginning of the game. But constantly having to keep command divisions within a certain range just got forgotten about after a while. The guys you could attach divisions directly to (to a max of 5?) were handy because you could keep parts of your army designed for certain things and the ability to select one units and see what everything attached to it was doing and where they were going meant you could more easily keep everyone in one spot. But anything above that? Eventually whatever bonuses they could provide was outweighed by just throwing more bodies at whatever you were fighting.

For navies and planes, navies were handy to have in the Pacific theatre (as the AI likes to take their entire fleet along when island hopping) and for the Mediterranean and North Sea areas as they have a high concentration of ships no matter who you're playing as, but for the most part the southern Atlantic and Pacific Oceans and Indian Ocean were virtually devoid of ships except for the occasional Allied task force consisting of like 2 destroyers and a TP they enjoyed shipping around in circles for no reason. Aircraft I never really figured out and just noticed that no matter what I would always lose (having superior numbers, better tech, properly organizing wings, nothing seemed to help) and sending strategic bombers in by daylight was suicidal so just send them on night missions until their ORG reached 0.

I enjoyed playing HOI3 and it got better with the expansions but there were some quirks they could never really work out, and I'm saying that as a guy who only ever automated trade, everything else I did myself. IMO, the thing that really did it in was the supply system no one could ever sort out. It was so drat bad they even included the option to turn it off (that no one ever used because we aren't filthy casuals). That and seemingly having no influence over domestic policies in your own countries until events were properly introduced that let you make decisions.

HOI4 is shaping up to be much better polished and a more rounded experience. There's some things I'm unsure of, yeah, but I gotta say I have an overwhelmingly positive impression of what we've seen so far.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



ThisIsNoZaku posted:

Need a hypersperg Gundam-style mecha game.

You have no idea how long I've dreamed of such a thing. Armored Core taken up to 11. Let me sperg it up and adjust individual joints and pistons.

Pimpmust
Oct 1, 2008

Mister Adequate posted:

You have no idea how long I've dreamed of such a thing. Armored Core taken up to 11. Let me sperg it up and adjust individual joints and pistons.

Wasn't that basically the MS Saga PS2 game? I recall being able to mash up all sorts of different parts into wonderful franken-mechs (terrible story/character design-wise tough).

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Pimpmust posted:

Wasn't that basically the MS Saga PS2 game? I recall being able to mash up all sorts of different parts into wonderful franken-mechs (terrible story/character design-wise tough).

Never heard of that before now, but I may have to track down a copy.

Pimpmust
Oct 1, 2008


Now do the same for HoI4 except with Hitler and Poland, possibly Bunker Cam included.

And broadcast it on TV4 etc :getin:

Hitler and Stalin singing, of course.

Pimpmust fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Jan 31, 2016

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes
We have been pre-empted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmYIo7bcUw

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Almost done with converting my old CK2 game over to EU4 (West Africa, Afghanistan, Baluchistan and India remains). Again pretty pleased with what it's looking like so figured I'd post some screens of the stuff that's done.

Northern Europe





HRE








France





British Isles



Italy and the Balkans






Iberia






Maghreb



Eastern Europe







Middle East










East Africa and Arabia








Iran and Central Asia




AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

Randarkman posted:

Almost done with converting my old CK2 game over to EU4 (West Africa, Afghanistan, Baluchistan and India remains). Again pretty pleased with what it's looking like so figured I'd post some screens of the stuff that's done.

Northern Europe





HRE








France





British Isles



Italy and the Balkans






Iberia






Maghreb



Eastern Europe







Middle East










East Africa and Arabia








Iran and Central Asia





This is awesome.

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

Randarkman posted:

Almost done with converting my old CK2 game over to EU4 (West Africa, Afghanistan, Baluchistan and India remains). Again pretty pleased with what it's looking like so figured I'd post some screens of the stuff that's done.

Northern Europe





HRE








France





British Isles



Italy and the Balkans






Iberia






Maghreb



Eastern Europe







Middle East










East Africa and Arabia








Iran and Central Asia






^^^^I agree.

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.

Randarkman posted:

Almost done with converting my old CK2 game over to EU4 (West Africa, Afghanistan, Baluchistan and India remains). Again pretty pleased with what it's looking like so figured I'd post some screens of the stuff that's done.

Northern Europe





HRE








France





British Isles



Italy and the Balkans






Iberia






Maghreb



Eastern Europe







Middle East










East Africa and Arabia








Iran and Central Asia






I appreciate how much Russia didn't change.

also france gonna take over that game

BgRdMchne
Oct 31, 2011

Randarkman posted:

Almost done with converting my old CK2 game over to EU4 (West Africa, Afghanistan, Baluchistan and India remains). Again pretty pleased with what it's looking like so figured I'd post some screens of the stuff that's done.

Northern Europe





HRE








France





British Isles



Italy and the Balkans






Iberia






Maghreb



Eastern Europe







Middle East










East Africa and Arabia








Iran and Central Asia






I just want to quote this post, too.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE

BgRdMchne posted:

I just want to quote this post, too.

Seriously, why quote the whole thing if you just write a single sentence about it?

Is anybody else extra excited for Stellaris just because nobody on the Paradox forum can make dumb posts about certain features being ahistoric and thus should be changed to something wholly unfun?

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Torrannor posted:

Seriously, why quote the whole thing if you just write a single sentence about it?

Is anybody else extra excited for Stellaris just because nobody on the Paradox forum can make dumb posts about certain features being ahistoric and thus should be changed to something wholly unfun?

Hasn't this already happened tho? I thought one of the devs quoted a paradox.txt post from their forums itt about how something in stellaris was unrealistic.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Torrannor posted:

Seriously, why quote the whole thing if you just write a single sentence about it?

Is anybody else extra excited for Stellaris just because nobody on the Paradox forum can make dumb posts about certain features being ahistoric and thus should be changed to something wholly unfun?

Don't worry, it will just turn into arguments about physics. :shepicide:

Koesj
Aug 3, 2003

Torrannor posted:

Seriously, why quote the whole thing if you just write a single sentence about it?

You seem to be confused? This is something awful dot com.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Don't worry, it will just turn into arguments about physics. :shepicide:
The idiots at Paradox probably based the game on Jewish Physics.

Groogy
Jun 12, 2014

Tanks are kinda wasted on invading the USSR
Already been a big thing about that we can't have tractor beams or anti-gravity, don't remember exactly what, in the game because it can not be justified by the current known view of the scientific field of gravity etc. blah blah I don't really care I just want cool space battles really.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
I liked the part where some Paradox forum-goers thought it was unrealistic that there could be black people in space.

Trogdos!
Jul 11, 2009

A DRAGON POKEMAN
well technically a water/flying type
I will not play Stellaris until Paradox removes female generals from insectoid races. This is very ahistorical and unrealistic since everyone, especially a :biotruths: expert such as myself, knows that insect warrior caste consists entirely of male members. Ugh. Also if you know anything about bolete physiology you'll see how thoroughly unrealistic it is that mushroom-people females can be

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

vyelkin posted:

I liked the part where some Paradox forum-goers thought it was unrealistic that there could be black people in space.

https://youtu.be/otwkXZ0SmTs

Sad King Billy
Jan 27, 2006

Thats three of ours innit...to one of yours. You know mate I really think we ought to even up the average!

Trogdos! posted:

I will not play Stellaris until Paradox removes female generals from insectoid races. This is very ahistorical and unrealistic since everyone, especially a :biotruths: expert such as myself, knows that insect warrior caste consists entirely of male members. Ugh. Also if you know anything about bolete physiology you'll see how thoroughly unrealistic it is that mushroom-people females can be

You're wrong, alien insectoid warriors have 6 sexes and can change them at will!

My alien insectoid warriors do anyway.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Groogy posted:

Already been a big thing about that we can't have tractor beams or anti-gravity, don't remember exactly what, in the game because it can not be justified by the current known view of the scientific field of gravity etc. blah blah I don't really care I just want cool space battles really.
Seems like anti-gravity and tractor beams is the least your concerns when FTL means time travel.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

What's the HoI2 mod that has a billion brazilian history events, All The Russias?

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.

Trogdos! posted:

I will not play Stellaris until Paradox removes female generals from insectoid races. This is very ahistorical and unrealistic since everyone, especially a :biotruths: expert such as myself, knows that insect warrior caste consists entirely of male members. Ugh. Also if you know anything about bolete physiology you'll see how thoroughly unrealistic it is that mushroom-people females can be

its ironic because in most insects, all the males are there for is to breed with and die. females do everything.

anyway there's a new Stellaris dev diary today with some intense mushroom action.

Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien


vyelkin posted:

I liked the part where some Paradox forum-goers thought it was unrealistic that there could be black people in space.
Do you have a link? I really need to see what kind of logic they used to come up with that.

Groogy
Jun 12, 2014

Tanks are kinda wasted on invading the USSR

Koramei posted:

anyway there's a new Stellaris dev diary today with some intense mushroom action.

Flugsvamp Aliens best Mushroom Aliens

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

Lord Hydronium posted:

Do you have a link? I really need to see what kind of logic they used to come up with that.

If it's what I'm thinking of, it was more along the lines of:

quote:

"How can I roleplay my glorious Fourth Reich/Rome when there are non-whites on my planets? Can we please restrict human ethnicities when starting the game?!"

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
So how do you guys tell female insects and fungal growths apart from the male insects and fungal growths?

Is Stellaris going to be another game where space babes from outer space all have giant tits regardless of the need for them?

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Groogy posted:

Flugsvamp Aliens best Mushroom Aliens

I really hope there's some good rick and morty-esq alien names.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Psychotic Weasel posted:

So how do you guys tell female ... fungal growths apart from the male ... fungal growths?


I wonder...

Groogy
Jun 12, 2014

Tanks are kinda wasted on invading the USSR
You guys are aware.... that not every species reproduces like Humans right?

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.

Groogy posted:

You guys are aware.... that not every species reproduces like Humans right?

Why are you applying logic to an argument that makes no sense?

We're just going to shoehorn everything into categories we can easily grasp and relate to then argue about poo poo that doesn't exist.

Now, about that race of all female fecal coliform colonies we were discussing...

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


They're gram negative?! ffs are you even trying?

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Lord Hydronium posted:

Do you have a link? I really need to see what kind of logic they used to come up with that.

I don't have a link because I only read it in this thread, but iirc it was like Jerusalem says, the person framed it something like "How can I roleplay Space Nazis if you won't let me preemptively genocide black people from Earth? Remove all the black people tia".

There may have also been someone who made some :biotruths: argument about how black people could never be in space (basing their argument on both the black portraits and the non-European names in screenshots) because Africa is underdeveloped and so only white North Americans and Europeans should be allowed in the game, but I don't remember exactly.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Groogy posted:

You guys are aware.... that not every species reproduces like Humans right?
I thought that Stellaris operated on the Star Trek principles of the universe, which includes the requirement that any non-transcendent sentient space faring species must be able to have sex with Riker or Kirk.

e.

vyelkin posted:

There may have also been someone who made some :biotruths: argument about how black people could never be in space (basing their argument on both the black portraits and the non-European names in screenshots) because Africa is underdeveloped and so only white North Americans and Europeans should be allowed in the game, but I don't remember exactly.
I vaguely remember that from the pre-announcement teasers, how it couldn't possibly be a space game because black people would never go to space.

zedprime fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Feb 1, 2016

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GSD
May 10, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
There was an equal amount of posters objecting to women leaders, because Space Rome would never have women leaders don't you know.

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