LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:i can not relate because i have never dated an obese woman who constantly wore a nightgown and brandished a rolling pin. i guess i've just been lucky. What imgur actually believes women are like. Fashionable Jorts posted:It's hard to vent all of your hatred for women and minorities when you're restricted to 140 characters, and writing 1/? 2/? on all of your posts has got to get tiring. A lot of people don't realize they can just reply to themselves so they make separate comments too, that get individual up and down votes so you wind up with like ten different 1/? stories going on by different people.
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:Huh. I totally get a "this poo poo never happened but I know it will get tons of upvotes, especially if I say I don't care if I get downvotes" feeling from this. Different strokes, I guess I get more of a "way more poo poo happened than is being let on" vibe than a pure stdh one. It's framed like he never even knew the girl or talked to her or looked at her and she just made up rape accusations against him one day. Is that possible? Yeah in an extremely minute case. But if that was true, I'd be explicitly stating that poo poo as opposed to whitewashing over any existing contact they've had.
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Feb 5, 2016 01:29
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RFC2324 posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone's_formulation It this context it is a positive, but when these guys use it, they're saying "ignore all accusations because some have been false, because lying bitches right".
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Feb 5, 2016 01:33
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Gaunab posted:Here's the thread in case anyone is curious: Someone please archive that post, because it shows exactly why I don't browse imgur anymore.
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Feb 5, 2016 01:37
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twistedmentat posted:It this context it is a positive, but when these guys use it, they're saying "ignore all accusations because some have been false, because lying bitches right". My experience with people who have extremely lovely views is that they start with something fundamentally good, like this, and run so far with them they end up no where near the original intent. These guys, for example, take the 'innocent until proven guilty' combined with our fairly lovely way of handling rape accusations, and feel that an accusation is as assumption of guilt, so no one should ever be accused. They should be fighting to ensure that such cases are handled with discretion, so innocent peoples names are not dragged through the dirt until guilt is proven, instead, imo, but idiots will be idiots.
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Feb 5, 2016 01:41
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twistedmentat posted:It this context it is a positive, but when these guys use it, they're saying "ignore all accusations because some have been false, because lying bitches right". An inevitable reaction to groups attempting to remove due process from rape accusations
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Feb 5, 2016 02:23
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RFC2324 posted:My experience with people who have extremely lovely views is that they start with something fundamentally good, like this, and run so far with them they end up no where near the original intent. They're also the kind of people who would argue that there is a different between rape, and RAPE.
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Feb 5, 2016 02:50
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twistedmentat posted:They're also the kind of people who would argue that there is a different between rape, and RAPE. What does this mean? The difference between violent rape and tricking someone into sex rape? Because there is a difference, one of these things has the added element of assault and battery, likely causing significant physical trauma in addition to the psychological trauma.
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Feb 5, 2016 03:22
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RFC2324 posted:What does this mean? The difference between violent rape and tricking someone into sex rape? That's true, but that doesn't make the latter not rape. These kind of people often try to paint the justice system as being unfair and biased because it counts both these things as "the same" (IE as rape) despite the fact that (in the US at least) rapes that fall into the first category usually have additional violent crime charges associated with them meaning that people who get convicted of violent "traditional" rape often go down harder and get much worse sentences than people who get charged with the more common (and again, still very bad) "peer pressure" style rape offenses.
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El Estrago Bonito posted:That's true, but that doesn't make the latter not rape. These kind of people often try to paint the justice system as being unfair and biased because it counts both these things as "the same" (IE as rape) despite the fact that (in the US at least) rapes that fall into the first category usually have additional violent crime charges associated with them meaning that people who get convicted of violent "traditional" rape often go down harder and get much worse sentences than people who get charged with the more common (and again, still very bad) "peer pressure" style rape offenses. Yea, exactly. To the people we're talking about here, RAPE is when some stranger (probably black) attacks a young woman on her way home and it violated. On the other hand, rape is when a girl is drunk or stoned and you use that to have sex with her, or she doens't put out for you on a date but you force yourself on her or a million other situations that are way more common than the above, it's not as bad as the first one, and it for sure shouldn't be something that's a big deal.
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twistedmentat posted:Yea, exactly. To the people we're talking about here, RAPE is when some stranger (probably black) attacks a young woman on her way home and it violated. On the other hand, rape is when a girl is drunk or stoned and you use that to have sex with her, or she doens't put out for you on a date but you force yourself on her or a million other situations that are way more common than the above, it's not as bad as the first one, and it for sure shouldn't be something that's a big deal. Basically it's only RAPE if you don't like the person accused. It's not rape-rape if the attacker is a famous actor or sports player, or has a lot of money.
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Plus for people discounting other peoples statements, they sure seem to take the person they know's statements at face value, like they can't be wrong or lying at all.
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Feb 5, 2016 04:56
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Cumslut1895 posted:An inevitable reaction to groups attempting to remove due process from rape accusations 
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p cool that literally the only worthwhile thought-provoking thread in that entire goddamn forum is the one that gets locked due to "drama"
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I'm not saying that is a reasonable response, or that people with that opinion make up a majority of feminists/rape victim advocates, just that it is inevitable. Cumslut1895 has a new favorite as of 05:31 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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Feb 5, 2016 05:29
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Cumslut1895 posted:I'm not saying that is a reasonable response, or that people with that opinion make up a majority of feminists/rape victim advocates, just that it is inevitable. What groups exactly are trying to remove due process for rape?
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GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:What groups exactly are trying to remove due process for rape? Anita Sarkeesian, probably.
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GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:What groups exactly are trying to remove due process for rape? I don't exactly have a list, but there are some people/groups that want to remove things like intensive cross-examination of rape victims. it's not exactly a part of the court system, but there's also the recent hullabaloo about expelling people from american universities for being accused. edit: also a lot tumblrinas, not that they count as groups Puppy Time posted:Anita Sarkeesian, probably. don't lump me in with them.
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Cumslut1895 posted:I don't exactly have a list, but there are some people/groups that want to remove things like intensive cross-examination of rape victims. it's not exactly a part of the court system, but there's also the recent hullabaloo about expelling people from american universities for being accused. 
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GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:What groups exactly are trying to remove due process for rape? me. >:[
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Cumslut1895 posted:I don't exactly have a list, but there are some people/groups that want to remove things like intensive cross-examination of rape victims. it's not exactly a part of the court system, but there's also the recent hullabaloo about expelling people from american universities for being accused. I would suggest you stop while your only moderately deep in the hole, but something tells me you won't heed my advice.
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Who What Now posted:I would suggest you stop while your only moderately deep in the hole, but something tells me you won't heed my advice. This is bad advice, digging up never fails.
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Who What Now posted:I would suggest you stop while your only moderately deep in the hole, but something tells me you won't heed my advice. also women should be sex-cooks that clean.
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I find it hilarious that in that racism thread the dude puts a ton of effort in to showing how racist imgur can be and withing like 3 posts some guy can't help but posting "+1 for effort!" low content poo poo
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Cumslut1895 posted:also women should be sex-cooks that clean. i like my sex rare to medium rare.
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LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:i like my sex rare to medium rare. Well you've got the rare part down.
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Birb Katter posted:Well you've got the rare part down. *golf swing*
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Birb Katter posted:Well you've got the rare part down. 
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Rape discussions are loving abysmal all across the internet, but I was involved in one like a month or two ago in D&D and people were literally saying people accused of rape should be presumed guilty 100% of the time, not joking or being hyperbolic, so he's not wrong even if he's coming from a really dumb and gross place And this wasn't a "believe the victim because it's hosed up to be lovely to a possible rape victim", it was full on "you should be guilty unless you prove you didn't rape them" because of how hard it can be get to get a rape charge to stick
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Cumslut1895 posted:I don't exactly have a list, but there are some people/groups that want to remove things like intensive cross-examination of rape victims. it's not exactly a part of the court system, but there's also the recent hullabaloo about expelling people from american universities for being accused. excellent input, Cumslut1895
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Aesop Poprock posted:Rape discussions are loving abysmal all across the internet, but I was involved in one like a month or two ago in D&D and people were literally saying people accused of rape should be presumed guilty 100% of the time, not joking or being hyperbolic, so he's not wrong even if he's coming from a really dumb and gross place
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quadrophrenic posted:p cool that literally the only worthwhile thought-provoking thread in that entire goddamn forum is the one that gets locked due to "drama" lol @ this mod roleplaying warhammer 40k ++The Ordos Hereticus, here to keep you safe, even from yourselves.++ the imgur forum is in good hands
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Yeah putting in my 2 cents on Internet rape debates isn't the best idea when I'm drunk at 3am. Touche
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Tetracube posted:lol @ this mod roleplaying warhammer 40k Are you implying WH40K is not a valid and good government model 
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Fathis Munk posted:Are you implying WH40K is not a valid and good government model Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.
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blacks then blacks now  wtf happened, blacks (+5000 upvotes)
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Feb 5, 2016 19:20
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Wharrg, Wharrg never changes.
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The internet does seem to be getting more racist lately. Or at least more accepting of racist poo poo. I blame Obama.
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Trump wouldn't be a thing right now if Obama wasn't president. And because of Trump, a lot of his supporters are no longer afraid of voicing their racist hatred views so blatantly. Thanks, Obama.
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