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Periphery: Jul 27, 2003; ...

Get ready to get hosed WA football, Freo and West Coast!

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-02-08/wa-footy-misses-out-contract-to-run-new-perth-stadium posted:

WEST Australian football faces an uncertain financial future after Perth Stadium Management missed out on the contract to operate the state's new home of football.

The WA government on Monday announced that Stadium Australian Operations, the operators of ANZ Stadium in Sydney, was preferred to Domain Stadium operators Perth Stadium Management, the stadium operating arm of the Western Australian Football Commission.

The WAFC yields roughly $15 million net revenue from its current ownership of Domain Stadium that is directly invested back into football development in WA.

WAFC Chairman Murray McHenry said the decision was a major blow.

"We are deeply disappointed about this decision and believe that football and its major international partners have the experience, skills and imagination to operate Perth Stadium on behalf of all West Australians," McHenry said.

"We are now deeply concerned about the future financial model for WA football because stadium operations have been critical to the development and success of the game.

"At all times during the development of Perth Stadium the state government has reassured football that the sport will be no worse off as a result of the new venue. We now need the government to show how this will be the case in order to safeguard the future of our game.

"We need the state government to progress discussions on how to preserve football's financial future as the sport now has no certainty for its future.

"We will immediately start re-assessing how to sustain the ongoing growth and development of football and its various operations like Auskick, community football, WAFL, female football, indigenous and multicultural programs.

"This decision also presents us with a range of concerns about the potential user agreements for our two AFL clubs at Perth Stadium and whether they will generate sufficient returns to sustain football in Western Australia."

WA Premier Colin Barnett made the announcement at Burswood and said that Stadium Australia Operations was the best choice of the four shortlisted operators based on value for money, operating approach and experience.

"It was an exacting process of selection but Stadium Australia were significantly the best proposal," Mr Barnett said.

"There is still probably two to three months of work to finalise the contract but we expect that to go through in a smooth way."

The Premier also said that WA football would continue to be funded via a revenue stream generated from the stadium despite football not operating the venue.

"Out of this contract, to be finalised, there will be a profit sharing arrangement and a revenue flow for the state government," he said.

"Out of that we will be able to maintain funding for the WA football commission and local football. Obviously still some work to be done but a big step forward for the stadium."

WA's sport and recreation minister Mia Davies was confident WA's AFL clubs, Fremantle and West Coast, would have no issues negotiating user agreements with Stadium Australia Operations.

"We are very confident they will be able to continue to negotiate along with the state," Ms Davies said.

"Obviously football and cricket as two of those key user groups will need to be taken into account and they will have to work very closely with them but we are confident that they will be able to do that.

"We are very confident that this stadium presents a wonderful opportunity for football to grow and thrive in WA. We are not about making it harder for football.

"I can't see any future in WA where football doesn't see this as a great outcome."

AEG Ogden and Nationwide Venue Management were the other two shortlisted operators.

AEG Ogden has been announced as the reserve respondent should negotiations between the WA government and Stadium Australians Operations fail.

AFL football is set to move from Domain Stadium to the new Perth Stadium at the start of 2018 premiership season although construction is currently ahead of schedule and it is possible that the stadium could be ready to host finals in 2017.

The WAFC administration is also currently housed at Domain Stadium along with the West Coast Eagles.

The Eagles are planning to move to a new purpose-built administration and training base at Lathlain Park with construction of that facility is currently in the planning phase.

There had been major concerns within the WAFC for the future financial model of WA football if Perth Stadium Management did not win the operating rights to the new stadium.

The WAFC now faces that reality whilst going through the process of appointing a new chief executive after Gary Walton resigned at the end of January following four years in the role.

If I was Freo and WC I wouldn't sign any long term contracts and I'd make sure subi is available as a fallback option. Does this poo poo ever not end up worse off for the clubs?

# ? Feb 8, 2016 13:12

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# ? May 2, 2024 02:33

Schlesische: Jul 4, 2012

What is actually stopping the WAFC who own Perth Stadium Managment, the WAFL and the Eagles/Freo from just going "well, you guys have fun with your empty stadium... we're just going to be chilling over here in Subi"?

Other than the whole "cutting off nose to spite face" thing.

I can't wait to discover how the operators of noted amazing-AFL-Dream-ground ANZ Stadium manage to run the new Perth Cake Tin into the ground.

Schlesische fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Feb 8, 2016

# ? Feb 8, 2016 13:21

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

I wonder how many people invested in stadium Australia are liberal party donors.

# ? Feb 8, 2016 13:27

Divorced And Curious: Jan 23, 2009; democracy depends on sausage sizzles

The Deadly Hume posted:

U found green frog?

i still think about this saga sometimes

Shmoses posted:

This exact thing is why I'm nervy about the At The Drive-In reunion.

the last time an influential 90s post hardcore band reunited and went into the studio we got the new refused album and that was as face-in-hands awful as melbourne's playing has been this decade

# ? Feb 8, 2016 13:31

snaeksikn: Feb 28, 2010

What a disaster. Who looks at how ANZ stadium is run and says "yes, let's get these guys to manage our new stadium"

# ? Feb 8, 2016 13:34

Spedman: Mar 12, 2010; Kangaroos hate Hasselblads

Solemn Sloth posted:

I wonder how many people invested in stadium Australia are liberal party donors.

All of them

# ? Feb 8, 2016 14:02

Boonys Cut Shot: Nov 5, 2004; Elite athlete

snaeksikn posted:

What a disaster. Who looks at how ANZ stadium is run and says "yes, let's get these guys to manage our new stadium"

Solemn Sloth posted:

liberal party donors.

# ? Feb 8, 2016 14:10

Schneider Inside Her: Aug 6, 2009; Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman

Hahaha what does Barnett know about value for money?

# ? Feb 8, 2016 15:39

drunkill: Sep 25, 2007; me @ ur posting; Fallen Rib

This is it anyway, I didn't know it was so close to the CBD/Subi anyway.

# ? Feb 8, 2016 15:49

Diet Crack: Jan 15, 2001

Pretty typical of Colin tbqh.

# ? Feb 8, 2016 15:49

NPR Journalizard: Feb 14, 2008

Diet Crack posted:

Pretty typical of Colin tbqh.

Yeah, he does need to gently caress off.

# ? Feb 8, 2016 16:15

drunkill: Sep 25, 2007; me @ ur posting; Fallen Rib

Randomly came across the wiki page for the 1924 season, these are down in the notes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1924_VFL_season

quote:

The Fitzroy versus Carlton match in the opening round was the first VFL match in which both teams scored 100 points.

The VFL adopts the convention of "home" teams wearing black shorts and "away" teams wearing white shorts.

Because the 1924 Premiership was determined by a round-robin system, Essendon won the premiership despite being beaten by runners-up Richmond 9.13 (67) to 6.11 (47) in the last round-robin match; this is the only time in VFL/AFL history that the premiers lost their last match of the season. Richmond would have needed to win by 43 points to challenge Essendon to a Grand Final.

Many of the Essendon players were unhappy at the poor performances of some of their team-mates in the final round robin match against Richmond and there were heated arguments and fist-fights in the rooms after the match, as well as after a post-match function later that evening, related to accusations of match fixing and receiving bribes.

On the Saturday after the VFL Grand Final, Essendon (in its role as 1924 VFL Premiers) was challenged by 1924 VFA Premiers, Footscray, to a match in aid of Dame Nellie Melba's Limbless Soldiers' Appeal, purportedly (but not officially) for the championship of Victoria. Footscray unexpectedly defeated Essendon 9.10 (64) to 4.12 (36). Again there were accusations of match fixing, and champion centre half-back Tom Fitzmaurice was so disgusted with many of his team-mates having, in his view, deliberately lost the match, he never played again for Essendon.

The Seconds Grand Final, to have been staged between Geelong and minor premiers Essendon on 4 October, was originally scheduled to be played at Geelong's home ground, Corio Oval. After Essendon raised its objections, the Seconds League rescheduled the match for Kardinia Park � a neutral venue, but still located in Geelong. Essendon again objected, and refused to play the match.[3] Consequently, the Seconds premiership was awarded to Geelong.[4]

Dammit Essendon, bringing the game into disrepute.

# ? Feb 8, 2016 16:30

Nutsngum: Oct 9, 2004; I don't think it's nice, you laughing.

When you actually sit down and read how the league was run and how premierships were actually won in the first 30 odd years its a wonder we still count them.

Nutsngum fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Feb 8, 2016

# ? Feb 8, 2016 17:24

thepokey: Jul 20, 2004; Let me start off with a basket of chips. Then move on to the pollo asado taco.

It is a very Richmondesque act to somehow lose the premiership while winning the final match.

And yeah, given how wonky the whole timeline is and SANFL WAFL flags aren't recognised etc, it makes sense to start counting premierships from the start of the AFL in 1990 I'd think

# ? Feb 8, 2016 19:22

The Deadly Hume: May 26, 2004; Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.

Make the cut-off date 1960 and I'm sold.

# ? Feb 8, 2016 20:26

Testekill: Nov 1, 2012; I demand to be taken seriously

drunkill posted:

Randomly came across the wiki page for the 1924 season, these are down in the notes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1924_VFL_season

Dammit Essendon, bringing the game into disrepute.

Don't forget them cracking the shits over Footscray beating them that year to become the champions of Victoria.

# ? Feb 8, 2016 23:49

Memento: Aug 25, 2009; Bleak Gremlin

The Deadly Hume posted:

Make the cut-off date 1960 and I'm sold.

1955

# ? Feb 8, 2016 23:53

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Sydney are going to have Goodes do a lap of honour in their second home game of the season because the first one is against collingwood at ANZ stadium and gently caress that for a farewell

Solemn Sloth fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Feb 9, 2016

# ? Feb 9, 2016 00:07

tnimark: Dec 22, 2009

They made the right decision, sadly.

# ? Feb 9, 2016 00:11

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

On one level you could say that it's letting idiots win by giving into them, but honestly gently caress that. Adam Goodes is a loving legend of the game, a guaranteed hall of famer, and an amazing person outside of footy, and he deserves to say goodbye to his fans without being booed by a bunch of stupid loving hicks.

# ? Feb 9, 2016 00:20

Corzaa: Aug 1, 2006

Solemn Sloth posted:

Sydney are going to have Goodes do a lap of honour in their second home game of the season because the first one is against collingwood at ANZ stadium and gently caress that for a farewell

gently caress ANZ Stadium.

# ? Feb 9, 2016 01:35

snaeksikn: Feb 28, 2010

drunkill posted:

This is it anyway, I didn't know it was so close to the CBD/Subi anyway.

Yeah, Subiaco is relatively close to the city but its on the western side, the WACA is the one you can see in the photo which is East Perth.

The new location though basically has nothing established nearby except for the casino, whereas Subi has a big bar and restaurant strip right next to it. They are building a new train station next to the new stadium as well but it will all take a while to establish anything else, the whole area is basically a bunch of empty lots looking over a train line and hills to the east at this point.

# ? Feb 9, 2016 01:56

The Deadly Hume: May 26, 2004; Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.

Testekill posted:

Don't forget them cracking the shits over Footscray beating them that year to become the champions of Victoria.

Also, wasn't it just before that VFL Essendon and North Melbourne (then in the VFA) had some weird merger plan since Essendon needed a ground but it ended up with Essendon getting all of North's players and Windy Hill off VFA Essendon so North had to merge with those guys instead.

# ? Feb 9, 2016 02:08

Periphery: Jul 27, 2003; ...

Apart from blatant corruption and profiteering is there any reason why they didn't just gradually upgrade Subi instead of spending 1b+ on building a totally new stadium?

Edit: LOL as if there is anything but corruption and profit driving government decisions.

# ? Feb 9, 2016 02:19

NPR Journalizard: Feb 14, 2008

Periphery posted:

Apart from blatant corruption and profiteering is there any reason why they didn't just gradually upgrade Subi instead of spending 1b+ on building a totally new stadium?

Edit: LOL as if there is anything but corruption and profit driving government decisions.

Colin wanted to be able to point to something in 10 years time and say "I built that".

Same deal with bettys jetty.

# ? Feb 9, 2016 02:30

Schneider Inside Her: Aug 6, 2009; Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman

Might have something to do with the casino

# ? Feb 9, 2016 03:01

gabensraum: Sep 16, 2003; LOAD "NICE!",8,1

Frogmanv2 posted:

Colin wanted to be able to point to something in 10 years time and say "I built that".

Same deal with bettys jetty.

Sounds like more of a Shelbyville idea.

# ? Feb 9, 2016 03:07

The Deadly Hume: May 26, 2004; Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.

What's going to happen to Subiaco Oval anyway? If I didn't know better it seems like they just want to sell the land to developers.

# ? Feb 9, 2016 03:43

Memento: Aug 25, 2009; Bleak Gremlin

The Deadly Hume posted:

they just want to sell the land to developers.

PerthNow, 22nd September 2015 posted:

Last year it was reported Premier Colin Barnett did not predict a future for Subiaco Oval once Perth Stadium opened and, being in a prime real estate location, could be torn down for a housing development.

Mr Barnett repeated that view recently, saying he believed Subiaco Oval should go.

# ? Feb 9, 2016 03:50

realbez: Mar 23, 2005; Fun Shoe

Spedman posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrkV_NL9GaI

holy moley

# ? Feb 9, 2016 04:28

tnimark: Dec 22, 2009

Alex Johnson is having his 5th knee reco. Poor bugger, but surely it's time to call it a day?

# ? Feb 9, 2016 04:35

Corzaa: Aug 1, 2006

tnimark posted:

Alex Johnson is having his 5th knee reco. Poor bugger, but surely it's time to call it a day?

Goddammit. This loving sucks.

# ? Feb 9, 2016 06:18

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Jack Trengove trained with the main group :captainpop:

# ? Feb 9, 2016 06:25

The Deadly Hume: May 26, 2004; Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.

Jeremy Howe injured his hand playing frisbee with his dog. Huh.
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2016-02-09/a-dog-a-frisbee-and-a-broken-hand-more-pain-for-new-magpie-jeremy-howe

At least he wasn't rooting it I guess.

# ? Feb 9, 2016 06:46

Chairchucker: Nov 14, 2006; to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

Memento posted:

1955

2012.

# ? Feb 9, 2016 08:09

Schneider Inside Her: Aug 6, 2009; Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman

The Deadly Hume posted:

Jeremy Howe injured his hand playing frisbee with his dog. Huh.
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2016-02-09/a-dog-a-frisbee-and-a-broken-hand-more-pain-for-new-magpie-jeremy-howe

At least he wasn't rooting it I guess.

Did his dog throw the frisbee?

# ? Feb 9, 2016 08:18

Paracausal: Sep 5, 2011; Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.