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So my not-quite aunt was telling me that negative thinking is what causes cancer. I mentioned her positive thinking guru who has cancer. Never a connection was made in her mind.
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Aramek posted:It's heaven for nerds. Will my thread now be upvoted? Make it now, Lord, make it now. There's a better home a-waiting In the Cloud, Lord, in the Cloud.
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Geniasis posted:Will my thread now be upvoted?
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I was wavering on looking up the Roko Basilisk stuff again to make fun of cyberpunk doom and gloom apocalyptic preachers, but then I realized this is the perfect thread for it. I haven't had the privilege to actually hear someone talk about this in person, but http://basilisk.neocities.org/ I wanted to find a single thing to pull out and quote, but no direct quotes quite sum up everything without being a big wall of text. Basically, some people fervently believe that if you don't help create a super-advanced AI that will cause the singularity, then that AI will torture you forever. The AI will do that not with time travel, but by using that universe-is-a-simulation idea - their thought is that if everything is perfectly simulated down to the subatomic scale, then there's no difference between the simulated you and the real you, so an infinite number of yous get to be tortured for an infinite amount of time if http://www.patheos.com/blogs/hallq/2014/12/rokos-basilisk-lesswrong/ seems to explain it a bit, but it gets kind of long Side note, WOW do reddit style comment threads mesh with that color scheme and lack of whitespace to make for a completely unreadable mess, especially with such a linear topic. You'd think on a place that wants to even pretend to host serious discussions people would want to build on others' posts, but nope, gently caress it, just toss a bunch of words into the soup!
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Feb 12, 2016 23:12
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Wow, it really does improve everything.
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NLJP posted:So my not-quite aunt was telling me that negative thinking is what causes cancer. I mentioned her positive thinking guru who has cancer. Never a connection was made in her mind. 10:1 that she said that: "He must have failed the system, the system cannot fail, the system can only be failed.", or words to that effect. EDIT: Not to mention that if negative thinking caused cancer, the average goon would be dead at 19. Sic Semper Goon has a new favorite as of 00:03 on Feb 13, 2016 |
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Feb 12, 2016 23:56
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He obviously wasn't a true
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I was at a wine-tasting at vintner's once, and we were sampling wines and the lady next to me remarked to her friend "Mmm...it tastes like grapes!" A friend of mine worked at a KFC in the inner city in high school, and he remembered people coming in and ordering "Colonel's (pronounced "kahl-uh-NELS") Chicken Strips," and "Colonial Chicken Strips." I also once worked at an auto rental place on the outskirts of a really bad ghetto, and had a woman tell me she wanted to "rent one of them Pontiac Grand Prickses." Count Freebasie has a new favorite as of 00:10 on Feb 13, 2016 |
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Feb 13, 2016 00:05
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Sentient Data posted:I was wavering on looking up the Roko Basilisk stuff again to make fun of cyberpunk doom and gloom apocalyptic preachers, but then I realized this is the perfect thread for it. I haven't had the privilege to actually hear someone talk about this in person, but http://basilisk.neocities.org/ Wouldn't doing whatever you were doing anyway indirectly be supporting/allowing for a world in which the AI is created? This God AI is a semantic rear end in a top hat
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Feb 13, 2016 00:08
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Count Freebasie posted:I was at a wine-tasting at vintner's once, and we were sampling wines and the lady next to me remarked to her friend "Mmm...it tastes like grapes!" That's especially stupid because wine tastes like rotten garbage. Although I guess it's technically rotten grapes so she's kind of right.
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Aesop Poprock posted:Wouldn't doing whatever you were doing anyway indirectly be supporting/allowing for a world in which the AI is created? This God AI is a semantic rear end in a top hat The idea is if you know about the singularity but don't do everything you can to bring it about you're an enemy of the singularity god. Whereas people who don't know about it are shielded by their ignorance. Sounds like a short story by an Isaac Asimov wannabe but w/e.
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Feb 13, 2016 00:47
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I really have to wonder why a computer god would waste its CPU cycles simulating the torture of dead people.
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^^^: I think it's that the public threat of the torture is an incentive for its own [faster/better] creation or something like that The thread-worthiness isn't in the idea itself, but those who accept it as capital-T Truth and go batshit over the present day real world ramifications
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Sentient Data posted:^^^: I think it's that the public threat of the torture is an incentive for its own [faster/better] creation or something like that
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Feb 13, 2016 01:09
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Shut up shut up shut up SHUT UP about Yudkowski, Roko's Basilisk, etc. Do not debate it on its merits. Do not engage its logic. Do not attempt to prove or disprove it. We already have/had a thread that was a serious debate on Roko's Basilisk and I can't comprehend how can you unironically mock something while you are chin-deep in it
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Feb 13, 2016 01:31
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How is anybody in it? Just seems like a goofy idea, akin to the ontological argument for god.
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If you mean in it as in "currently under the direct control of the AI", it comes down to thinking along the lines of It's possible to know absolutely everything about the universe (or near enough that it doesn't matter) therefore, it's possible to simulate everything about the universe therefore, somewhere in the infinite cosmos and time a culture will simulate everything therefore, said culture will run many simulations of all of history to test various situations or for entertainment therefore, there are many multiple instances of this current time period of you; one "real", many simulated therefore, it is mathematically more likely that you are actually a simulation rather than real therefore, X pseudo religious point is true Also, knowing absolutely everything about everything is somehow possible even with "infinite" being a requirement for a culture to come up with a simulator e: Also, we apparently did have this conversation in a different thread already, this should be a fun read http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3653939&pagenumber=42&perpage=40#post448485639
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Feb 13, 2016 01:59
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We don't need an AI god to torture us; this thread is torture enough.
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Feb 13, 2016 02:24
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Strudel Man posted:I really have to wonder why a computer god would waste its CPU cycles simulating the torture of dead people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EddX9hnhDS4
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DavidAlltheTime posted:Oil of Oregano does a good job of preventing colds.
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Strudel Man posted:But that makes no sense if the thing already exists, when it exists. You're not going to be able to retroactively make yourself get built sooner by running a billion instances of TOENAIL_REMOVAL.JAR They thought of that and came up with some more bullshit (called "timeless decision theory") to explain how someone in the future can make decisions that affect the past.
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Practical Demon posted:I'm used to the only people giving a poo poo about the singularity being very stereotypical white guy shut ins who never get off their computer and are convinced the day will come when technology will make them superstuds with prehensile genitals. Well mom also believes that soy in baby formula is why there are so many effeminate and gay men and estrogen is the water is giving dudes tits. What's great is that she's super evangelical, so they soy is satan's way of "destroying god's creation." God's creation is apparently really macho dudes, btw.
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Feb 13, 2016 05:09
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Oh and my brother thinks Ben Carson is a genius and would be a good president. Though he also helped elect Jesse Ventura, so yeah.
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Feb 13, 2016 05:11
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hackbunny posted:Shut up shut up shut up Look I'm just saying that an airplane pushes with it's propeller not with it's wheels! It doesn't matter what the wheels are doing! It's still going to fly.
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CherryCola posted:Well mom also believes that soy in baby formula is why there are so many effeminate and gay men and estrogen is the water is giving dudes tits. What's great is that she's super evangelical, so they soy is satan's way of "destroying god's creation." God's creation is apparently really macho dudes, btw. How does she explain lesbians and us half-lesbians?
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Scathach posted:How does she explain lesbians and us half-lesbians? If she's anything like a lot of religious people I've known, you don't exist and women who are lesbians are just playing a selfish game of pretend
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Feb 13, 2016 06:57
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CherryCola posted:Oh and my brother thinks Ben Carson is a genius and would be a good president. You can be a genius at one specific thing and completely inept and stupid about everything else. That's what Ben Carson is.
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Feb 13, 2016 07:00
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Aesop Poprock posted:If she's anything like a lot of religious people I've known, you don't exist and women who are lesbians are just playing a selfish game of pretend Women don't like sex, sex is something they have to reluctantly engage in to barter with their husbands for something. It's not like they actually like it.
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The stupidest poo poo you've ever heard: "Don't deny the power of oils just to sound cool, dweebs"
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That robot overlord thing sure sounds like someone unironically making Pascal's wager with ai instead of God. I know this is a thread for stupid things but holy gently caress that's so loving stupid it's blowing my mind.
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Dr_Amazing posted:Look I'm just saying that an airplane pushes with it's propeller not with it's wheels! It doesn't matter what the wheels are doing! It's still going to fly. I have had multi hour debates about the feasibility/infeasibility of this. I'm not sure which part of that factors into the topic of this thread though, that so many people were adamant that it would not fly or that we argued about it at all.
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rodbeard posted:That robot overlord thing sure sounds like someone unironically making Pascal's wager with ai instead of God. I know this is a thread for stupid things but holy gently caress that's so loving stupid it's blowing my mind.
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Scathach posted:How does she explain lesbians and us half-lesbians? Maybe baby formula reverses lesbification? On that note (god there's just so much), a few years back my cousin told me that her sister was hanging out with LESBIANS. (this is in semi-bumfuck, WI) She informed me that these lesbians would actually try to convert young innocent girls into more lesbians. I couldn't help but just picture these roving bands of lesbians wandering the streets of Oshkosh like Mormons and asking people if they had heard the good news of eating pussy.
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CherryCola posted:I couldn't help but just picture these roving bands of lesbians wandering the streets of Oshkosh like Mormons and asking people if they had heard the good news of eating pussy.
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CherryCola posted:Well mom also believes that soy in baby formula is why there are so many effeminate and gay men and estrogen is the water is giving dudes tits. What's great is that she's super evangelical, so they soy is satan's way of "destroying god's creation." God's creation is apparently really macho dudes, btw. So God only likes bears? God's probably some twinky looking power-bottom then.
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Feb 13, 2016 10:55
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Why else do you think Jesus is always portrayed as a pale, slender dude with flowing locks? 
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Malachite_Dragon posted:Why else do you think Jesus is always portrayed as a pale, slender dude with flowing locks? So he looks like his twink dad? And if God's gay, then it makes sense that his son was born via immaculate conception without him actually having to touch a woman. It's like...artificial insemination with Mary having a kid of a gay guy who wanted a child.
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Strudel Man posted:Just seems like a goofy idea, akin to the ontological argument for god. Ugh, I once had a very long discussion with someone about the ontological argument. It seems to essentially boil down to something like "I define God as being absolutely perfect in every way. Existence is more perfect than non-existence, therefore God must exist, therefore God exists, therefore Christianity is true. Accept all these definitions uncritically and don't ask any pesky questions."
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Count Freebasie posted:I was at a wine-tasting at vintner's once, and we were sampling wines and the lady next to me remarked to her friend "Mmm...it tastes like grapes!" Blah blah "blue waffle" low hanging fruit etc.
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