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prefect posted:It still sounds like IRV is better than first-past-the-post. edit: It's also not an issue if you vote below the line like I do so I can give that one guy the 127 next to his name he deserves. 
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Long, but thoughtful and relevant to the "neckbeard-as-an-insult" debate. (And yes, the "Barry" that post refers to is in fact Barry Deutsch.)
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Occultatio posted:Long, but thoughtful and relevant to the "neckbeard-as-an-insult" debate. I think this is an interesting article that makes some good points that I would never try making (or even agreeing with too much), because it's insanely easy to unintentionally come across as a jackass. 
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Feb 24, 2016 13:53
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If there's anyone I trust for a thoughtful and intelligent commentary on why it's actually good and cool to be a neckbearded piece of poo poo, it's a neoreactionary blog.
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The Time Dissolver posted:I'm a man with high functioning autism and boy oh boy does feminism have bigger fish to fry than sparing the feelings of this insensitive, immature-rear end demographic. I'm also a man with high functioning autism and apparently this endows me with infinite wisdom on what feminism should do with this, but here is my take: Feminism is all about fighting against arbitrary hierarchies of social worth. "Neckbeard" as an insult relies on criticizing people for their failure to adhere to a masculine standard of appearance, and comes with it connotations being unloved and unloveable, which itself is based on a gendered standard that expects men to have a relationship or at least the potential to have a relationship and considers them social failures if they do not (this standard is of course far greater for women but nonetheless exists for men). Bearing in mind that, as others pointed out, "neckbeards" might have depression or been bullied or just were never taught social skills, the insult essentially punishes them for something that is at least in part outside of their control. It devalues them as human beings and turns them into a punching bag that others can use to feel better about themselves. A more tactical issue of the "neckbeards" insult, or rather the general shaming of "neckbeards", is that it tends to isolate the insulted from the rest of society, leaving them cut off from the social lives that leave the rest of us productive members of society. Alone and lonely, they might look for any group which accepts them and tells them they're okay, they're not to blame, it's the fault of other people. Which opens the way for gamergate and MRA's. To be sure, a lot of gamergaters and MRA's are just assholes, but I think a substantial number of them might just be lonely people looking to belong and willing to attach themselves to any cause which accepts them.
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Am I reading this right? That blog thinks that not wanting to starve to death is on the same level as wanting a caring relationship?
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TetsuoTW posted:If there's anyone I trust for a thoughtful and intelligent commentary on why it's actually good and cool to be a neckbearded piece of poo poo, it's a neoreactionary blog. It is literally the opposite of that. Praseodymi posted:Am I reading this right? That blog thinks that not wanting to starve to death is on the same level as wanting a caring relationship? You aren't, hth.
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Mister Beeg posted:A politoon about "neckbeard". Huh. "Society's Arbitrary Grooming Standards"
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Occultatio posted:Long, but thoughtful and relevant to the "neckbeard-as-an-insult" debate. Man I couldn't get past section 3 before his repeated invocation of "Feminism!!!!!!" as the bane of his existence made me close the tab The dude undermines his own points more effectively than I ever could EndOfTheWorld posted:"Society's Arbitrary Grooming Standards" As a person with no chin and a gigantic head believe me, society's grooming standards are really loving arbitrary When you have to have a beard and long hair to look normal it's really hard to get by in a 9-5 world
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I dream of a wrestling match where Kagan and Sotomayor do a tag team body slam off the ropes and destroy Ramirez. What a loving tool he is.
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EndOfTheWorld posted:"Society's Arbitrary Grooming Standards" 
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Mister Beeg posted:A politoon about "neckbeard". Huh. Funny how he's got no neck.
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Xander77 posted:Two of my Poli-Sci professors (oh, and apparently one of them is the current chair of the Poli-Sci department) had such a huge hard-on for the Irish and Australian election systems. Particularly mandatory voting. The way the senate works is that each state has an allocation of senate seats. 12 each, of which typically only 6 are up for elections in a given election cycle. A person is therefore considered elected when they attain 1/6th of the vote (A quota). The way voting works here on the senate ballot is that you can vote either above the line or below the line. Above the line the rules state you select a party, stick a 1 in it, and you're done. Your vote preference will run down the group you voted in (Your party) and then along the parties own preference allocation if they don't make up a quota. This last is often a bit opaque. The only other way to vote is below the line, where you have to number every single square from 1 to 127 (That is an extreme example from the last federal election on the NSW senate ballot paper). Most people, for matters of laziness, vote above the line. What has happened, especially in the last election, is that micro-parties have been formed and made strange and bizarre preference deals with each other with the aid of outside consultants. Usually all picking from the same pool of a couple of people to do the work. While there is normally no chance in hell of any of them getting a senate seat, the last of the six seats is decided by who has the most after all the preferences are exhausted. With this we have ended up with some strange and odd people getting into parliament when they obtained less than 1% of the vote. The change being made is, as I understand it do two things: 1: They eliminate the parties ability to distribute your preference as they see fit if you vote 1 on them above the line. 2: Allow you to allocate your preferences above the line. So you can say "I like the Greens, so 1 for them. Then the Communist party sounds good, so them at 2. Then I shall put the Socialist Alternative at number 3", and so on and so forth until you reach the limit of parties you can stomach and stop. These are actually pretty good common sense reforms that should have been pushed a while ago, but the last election was a bit of a farce in this manner. naturally, the micro-parties that only got in because of this are furious. It isn't "Our election system is crap, we need to fix it". It is "Our election system is good, but it needs improvement to fix a flaw that hadn't really been a problem before". It certainly beats the hell out of first past the post.
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EndOfTheWorld posted:"Society's Arbitrary Grooming Standards" Society's grooming standards ARE largely arbitrary though. As long as people meet a basic standard of hygiene, mocking them for the way they look is just another means of oppression (albeit extremely minor compared to the injustices that face women daily).
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the_steve posted:Honestly, in regards to the Neckbeard comic, the biggest thing that stuck out to me was "arbitrary grooming standards." Heya. I spent five years partially paralyzed. (Well technically I still am, just less so.) This makes using a razor a somewhat a problem. Combined with various other issues, I was left lumpy, scarred and misshapen - and fitting clothes or regular barber visits were neither things I could afford. Made worse by used clothes not fitting. I was completely a neckbeard. I was entirely clean, but I was still insulted a whole lot for my scraggly beard and ill-fitting clothes. Your definition of "basic hygiene" is indeed arbitrary, based on the ideas that everyone's wealthy and healthy enough to take care of themselves to a standard you find acceptable.
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Honestly the recent rise of the manbun and the so-called "dadbod" should make it rather clear that society's conceptions of what is attractive are in a constant state of flux. E: Except, of course, for the noble mullet, which will remain perfect forever. Xanderkish fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Feb 24, 2016 |
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Feb 24, 2016 15:03
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54.4 crowns posted:Anyone else read this in the voice of henchman 21 Dude I like totally did. The whole thing just maches him to perfectly. Also when does a 5 oclock shadow go from rugged manliness to gross neckbread?
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Xanderkish posted:Honestly the recent rise of the manbun and the so-called "dadbod" should make it rather clear that society's conceptions of what is attractive are in a constant state of flux. The dadbod itself though represents a staggering double-standard of attractiveness across genders.
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I thought the dadbod was a joke?
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the_steve posted:Honestly, in regards to the Neckbeard comic, the biggest thing that stuck out to me was "arbitrary grooming standards." Explain how requiring certain parts of the head to be shaved, having other parts be optional, and shaving other parts being forbidden unless you're above the age where you'd be drat near bald anyway *isn't* arbitrary?
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Feb 24, 2016 15:20
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Some people poo poo into socks, some people poo poo into toilets. What's important is that everyone shits and everyone is beautiful.
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gradenko_2000 posted:The dadbod itself though represents a staggering double-standard of attractiveness across genders. Oh absolutely. Men have way more variability in what can be considered attractive than women. It's just that like five years ago, a dadbod wasn't in vogue, and now it is.
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Paladinus posted:Some people poo poo into socks, some people poo poo into toilets. What's important is that everyone shits and everyone is beautiful. Having a beard: Exactly the same thing as pooping into a sock
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Mirthless posted:Having a beard: Exactly the same thing as pooping into a sock What's so bad about making GBS threads into socks? Toilets are a social construct.
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FYI the people who fight hardest to justify continued use of a slur are the ones most scared of losing what little power they have in their lives. If you don't like someone, just call them rear end in a top hat.
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Please stop pooping in this thread
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Dr Cheeto posted:Please stop pooping in this thread cram me sideways posted:FYI the people who fight hardest to justify continued use of a slur are the ones most scared of losing what little power they have in their lives. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Feb 24, 2016 |
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Yep! I would rather the possibility of Donald Trump choosing a Supreme Court Justice. - Michael Ramirez, super smart dude I can't wait for this to become a campaign talking point. Good job pissing on your own pantcuffs, Ramirez.
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cram me sideways posted:FYI the people who fight hardest to justify continued use of a slur are the ones most scared of losing what little power they have in their lives. I agree, but Donald Trump also has a stupid haircut and orange skin.
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the moose posted:
When it began being worn by neckbeards and not rugged, manly men. Besides, this isn't about a five o'clock shadow, it's about a beard trimmed to give the illusion of a jawline where none exists.
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D.N. Nation posted:Yep! Trump would appoint e: holy loving poo poo can we stop talking about neckbeards
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foobardog posted:I finally found this because I found the vaudeville gags from Family Guy and the character tells his assistant to "vamp": Video's not available for me. 
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This one worked for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CduOLFJ5GEY
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"How did they get my spaghetti video?"
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Random cartoon request: I just got out of a meeting with upper management, where our general manager described the changes our organization needed to make. He ended it describing a political cartoon he saw, saying it was two panels, where the first one was a speaker talking to a crowd asking "Who wants change?" and everyone raising their hands. The second panel the speaker asked "Who wants to change?" and no one had their hand raised. Anyone familiar with it? I'm mainly curious who the artist might be.
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Ralepozozaxe posted:"How did they get my spaghetti video?" Donald Trump would like to thank Mitch McConnell for his help on this ad
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Finally a Tom The Dancing Bug with a happy ending.
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