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Toys For Ass Bum
Feb 1, 2015

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_display#Discontinued

It's funny how nobody really noticed when Plasma TVs disappeared :smith:

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

wayne curr posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_display#Discontinued

It's funny how nobody really noticed when Plasma TVs disappeared :smith:

Developing consumer VDU technology that basically got ruined if you used it to play computer games was never a viable long-term business strategy after the 90s.

hackbunny
Jul 22, 2007

I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av

Astrobastard posted:

Speaking of SCART im pretty sure noone outside of Europe had to suffer with these bastard things. It wasnt so much the connecetor (okay it was) but you were guaranteed to have some 1.5cm thick cable hanging out the back that was near on impossible to maneuver into a decent location or even around other cables. gently caress SCART

The connector was complete and utter poo poo. The worst connectors were those without a full set of pins, they were possibly even wobblier

On the other hand, SCART as a standard was pretty good. Well, better than RF. And it was bidirectional! took me years to find out, it wasn't even documented in the VCR's manual. The way a VCR was usually setup was:
  • antenna cable goes in VCR RF IN. VCR has a RF tuner separate from the TV's, with its own channels, that have to be programmed etc.
  • VCR RF OUT is connected to TV RF IN. The VCR simply moves the signal from its RF IN to its RF OUT. It adds a little interference but the TV can be used as normal
  • you can either tune the TV to the VCR's UHF channel, or you can connect VCR and TV with a SCART cable, for much better quality
What the manual doesn't tell you is that this works too:
  • antenna cable goes in TV RF IN
  • TV and VCR connected with SCART cable
and what it does is it lets the VCR record whatever's showing on the TV, even things the VCR normally couldn't record like Teletext, because what you probably didn't know is that TVs don't just receive over SCART, but they transmit too (and conversely VCRs don't just transmit, but receive too)

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012

wayne curr posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_display#Discontinued

It's funny how nobody really noticed when Plasma TVs disappeared :smith:
I remember Aus being huge into the 'LOOK HOW MUCH loving CHEAPER LED TV'S ARE TO RUN, LIKE HOLY poo poo IT'S HALF THE PRICE TO RUN IT' part of the LED/LCD TV rise.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter
Plasmas were heavy as poo poo, ran hot, had burn in and reflection issues, it's no wonder that when LED TV production got to where it is that they would get discontinued.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice

Christmas Present posted:

I loved my GBA-SP until the shoulder buttons got flaky. Not the best portable device I've owned, but the best up to that point, for sure- made a decent eBook reader (in 2005 terms) if you had a flash cart.

The SP would've been 11/10 if it had a goddamn headphone jack

Micro supremacy :c00l:

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

wayne curr posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_display#Discontinued

It's funny how nobody really noticed when Plasma TVs disappeared :smith:

I always wanted a plasma and pulled the trigger on a 50inch LG two years ago specifically because manufacturers were dropping them.

It's 720p, has only one HDMI port, and reflects everything in the room if you don't close all the blinds. But I love it so much. Hopefully OLED TV's are reasonable by the time this one dies.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

But it feels so right!
Lipstick Apathy

wayne curr posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_display#Discontinued

It's funny how nobody really noticed when Plasma TVs disappeared :smith:

My 2012 Panasonic Plasma is still going strong! I was sad to see them stop making them cause picture quality is just amazing. It even got that whole smart TV thing going so I can watch my youtubes!

With late generation plasmas a lot of the issues weren't a big deal anymore. Burn in was rare and you pretty much had to force it to happen and while they still use more power than LCDs it's not like the early models that sucked your power station dry.
But LCDs were cheap, thin and bright so when you see them next to a plasma in a brightly lit store they just seemed better.

Shai-Hulud has a new favorite as of 16:09 on Feb 18, 2016

Smoke
Mar 12, 2005

I am NOT a red Bumblebee for god's sake!

Gun Saliva

Intoluene posted:

The ds had this problem until the DSi, I know that for a fact. My Wii had WPA and I had a launch console.

The fun bit about this is that the wireless stack used by the DS and DSi is actually coded into the games themselves(profile information is stored in the DS/DSi). Even a DS game running on a 3DS won't connect to anything other than WEP(and there's no patching possible for this) The 3DS's network configuration has a separate section for DS games and the APs to use, while 3DS native stuff does WPA and WPA2.

The Wii did WPA from launch, I have a PAL launch console and by the time it came out I'd been on WPA for some time already(and using an old wireless NIC to create an access point for my DS for those rare moments of online play)

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



Krispy Kareem posted:

I always wanted a plasma and pulled the trigger on a 50inch LG two years ago specifically because manufacturers were dropping them.

It's 720p, has only one HDMI port, and reflects everything in the room if you don't close all the blinds. But I love it so much. Hopefully OLED TV's are reasonable by the time this one dies.
I scored an ex shop display 42" LG plasma a couple years back for $350. Only 720p like yours but the picture is fantastic and the LG logo that was burned into one of the corners when I got it has gradually faded with use. I feel like I'll never get a deal that good on a TV again.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Smoke posted:

The fun bit about this is that the wireless stack used by the DS and DSi is actually coded into the games themselves(profile information is stored in the DS/DSi). Even a DS game running on a 3DS won't connect to anything other than WEP(and there's no patching possible for this) The 3DS's network configuration has a separate section for DS games and the APs to use, while 3DS native stuff does WPA and WPA2.

The system could spoof an unsecured wi-fi link in software and bridge it to a real wireless chipset that is WPA-capable.

The 3DS’s hardware may not be capable of this, but there’s no reason it couldn’t have been done.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
Full 1080p with awesome black levels and virtually no issues with color smearing. Plasma had is place in home theater and hopefully OLED can carry the torch. I love my 55 inch 2011 clearance rack Samsung.

No burn in with daily use in five years, where it's only source has been my HTPC.

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

Smoke posted:

The fun bit about this is that the wireless stack used by the DS and DSi is actually coded into the games themselves(profile information is stored in the DS/DSi). Even a DS game running on a 3DS won't connect to anything other than WEP(and there's no patching possible for this) The 3DS's network configuration has a separate section for DS games and the APs to use, while 3DS native stuff does WPA and WPA2.

The Wii did WPA from launch, I have a PAL launch console and by the time it came out I'd been on WPA for some time already(and using an old wireless NIC to create an access point for my DS for those rare moments of online play)

I had this awful thing, which barely worked once.

http://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-DS-Wi-Fi-USB-Connector/dp/B000MXMNG4

Powerlurker
Oct 21, 2010

I had one too, I got it to work once and then it mysteriously stopped, never to work again. Then I bought a Wi-Fi router.

experienceBeej
Mar 24, 2014

Humbug posted:

In light of the video cable discussion, has the Wii mini been mentioned here yet? A console released in 2013 with ONLY coax video out. No hdmi, no s-video and no component. It was aimed at kids, but still....




IIRC, Canada was the test market for these. So there's probably some still floating around Canadian stores.

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

I recall a Danish Internet forum not unlike SA that discussed Wii minis as a way to get controllers since nunchuck + dong shaped controller would cost the same as buying a Wii mini kit.

Horse Clocks
Dec 14, 2004


Boiled Water posted:

I recall a Danish Internet forum not unlike SA that discussed Wii minis as a way to get controllers since nunchuck + dong shaped controller would cost the same as buying a Wii mini kit.

With the dwindling supplies of rare metals, waste-producing pricing like this should be criminal.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.

experienceBeej posted:

IIRC, Canada was the test market for these. So there's probably some still floating around Canadian stores.

Yup. While I doubt the EBs up here would still have any buried in the back, I wouldn't be surprised if you could find quite a few used for next to nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egiJqfmLfD8&t=99s

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

The SP would've been 11/10 if it had a goddamn headphone jack

Micro supremacy :c00l:

A-loving-greed. I had a few cheap adapters (MADCATZ!) I'd carry around in case one of em flaked

Pilsner posted:

I'm curious though, which phone is 8x40x60mm?

I guess I'm terrible at estimating sizes in general, but I'm talking about the Sony Ericsson W350, easily the coolest looking phone I've ever owned- but yeah its closer to 1x4x10cm: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_w350-2198.php

Would still love to have a lil one of these that could Bluetooth up with the nice-but-chunkier LG G4 I carry around, it was just such a sexy little device (even though the flip part was paper thin and fell off after a couple years)

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
Is Disney's Playmation the latest tech failure? Launched with figures a bit more pricey than amiibo/Skylander, a starter set that was about $100, and I don't think very good explanation to kids/adults as to why they'd want it.

The announcement trailer for it about 10 months ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXFz5tUDY38

How to play it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19foZgERkQU

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

JediTalentAgent posted:

Is Disney's Playmation the latest tech failure? Launched with figures a bit more pricey than amiibo/Skylander, a starter set that was about $100, and I don't think very good explanation to kids/adults as to why they'd want it.

The announcement trailer for it about 10 months ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXFz5tUDY38

How to play it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19foZgERkQU

For all those people who have finished all their Move and Kinect games.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Wasabi the J posted:

Full 1080p with awesome black levels and virtually no issues with color smearing. Plasma had is place in home theater and hopefully OLED can carry the torch. I love my 55 inch 2011 clearance rack Samsung.


I was working repairs at a shop that also sold browngoods/home theatre stuff until last year. My god the LG curved OLEDs are amazing. The blacks (such as sidebars from 4:3 sources) are nearly indistinguishable from when the panel is off. The 4K 65in we had I lusted over every time I walked past. Although have some frame rate jerkiness (could have been the source as the sales staff tended to plug USB sticks in and I doubt it was a USB3 stick judging how cheap the bosses were).

If you buy one, make sure you have a few friends over and RTFM on unboxing it. I am deadly serious. The panels are about 3-4mm wide with a wider part in the lower middle and very flimsy. Also, don't think you can wall mount it using your current wallmount standard of two vertical rails and a cross bar. You need to buy LGs special snowflake hanger mount or I heard Bunnings have a universal that works for a 1/4 of the price.

I want one, they just announced and are rolling out their flat OLEDs.

Just so it doesn't sound like I am a shill for LG, I want Panasonic to get into the market. Samsung shouldn't be too far away. If all three had them on the market I would probably go the Panasonic or Samsung (their S series). The smart menus on the LG are a loving pain in the rear end, the smart features on Panasonic are easy and even though they come with a fancy smart remote (throw this remote in the bin straight away), they also come boxed with the bog standard remote you will recognise the feel and look of instantly from the past 20 years (interface looks like rear end but it works and is simple). Samsung's smart remotes are loving irritating and so is the menus, but according to what I have had to fix/send away - best build quality.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Apparently this was a thing in the early 1900s.



The convulsions you got from consuming non-lethal amounts of strychnine was considered healthy. :thumbsup:

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Collateral Damage posted:

Apparently this was a thing in the early 1900s.



The convulsions you got from consuming non-lethal amounts of strychnine was considered healthy. :thumbsup:

I'm mostly amazed there's any sort of "CAUTION: DO NOT EXCEED RECOMMENDED DOSE" warning at all.

Dacap
Jul 8, 2008

I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower.

You have more fun as a follower. But you make more money as a leader.



experienceBeej posted:

IIRC, Canada was the test market for these. So there's probably some still floating around Canadian stores.

I saw them in stock at a Shopper Drug Mart in Toronto just this week.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


ryonguy posted:

I'm mostly amazed there's any sort of "CAUTION: DO NOT EXCEED RECOMMENDED DOSE" warning at all.

There is, though?

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

KozmoNaut posted:

There is, though?

That's what he's saying, he's amazed that such a reckless product has the warning.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Doh, I mentally inserted an "isn't" in there.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Collateral Damage posted:

Apparently this was a thing in the early 1900s.



The convulsions you got from consuming non-lethal amounts of strychnine was considered healthy. :thumbsup:

They used to use it to dope long distance runners. Modern athletes don't know how good they've got it.

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


To be fair, you can have deadly botulinum injected into your face on your lunch break.

You can overdose on Tylenol with little effort as well.

We are always playing in the space between certain death and notable benefit.

SLOSifl has a new favorite as of 18:04 on Feb 21, 2016

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
I saw something in a clearance rack recently: A MiniSD card that was nearly a dozen years old. I had so totally forgotten about them existing that I was confused by it for a second. I can't even recall the last time I saw one as it seems like a lot of stuff opted for regular SD or microSD.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


JediTalentAgent posted:

I saw something in a clearance rack recently: A MiniSD card that was nearly a dozen years old. I had so totally forgotten about them existing that I was confused by it for a second. I can't even recall the last time I saw one as it seems like a lot of stuff opted for regular SD or microSD.

I think one of my first N-series Nokias had MiniSD. I want to say it was an N80.



http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n80-1347.php

Fake edit: Yes it was, I do miss that phone.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Humphreys posted:

I think one of my first N-series Nokias had MiniSD. I want to say it was an N80.



http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n80-1347.php

Fake edit: Yes it was, I do miss that phone.

I don't. The drat thing didn't have a GPS receiver, so I had to buy a separate Bluetooth brick to use a painfully slow navigation app.

The phone got stolen from me, but I still have the GPS brick in a drawer somewhere in this room.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Jasper Tin Neck posted:

I don't. The drat thing didn't have a GPS receiver, so I had to buy a separate Bluetooth brick to use a painfully slow navigation app.

The phone got stolen from me, but I still have the GPS brick in a drawer somewhere in this room.

On the Telstra network, I could do basic navigation without GPS - it was really nifty. It would get as close as which block I was on. Not sure on the specifics of how it worked, but it did get me out of a few jams when I was rushing around a capital city CBD I have never been to.

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

Pretty sure that's achieved by connecting to multiple cell towers and triangulating.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

That's how assisted GPS works too. It gets a coarse position from the cell network, then it's much faster to get a GPS fix.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Collateral Damage posted:

That's how assisted GPS works too. It gets a coarse position from the cell network, then it's much faster to get a GPS fix.

It’s not just coarse position that’s needed, but also information regarding the the orbits of the satellites in the GPS constellation.

That data is constantly broadcast over GPS channels, but a receiver has to listen for 12½ minutes to get it all. Standalone GPS receivers take at least thirty seconds to get a fix after they’re powered on, and the full 12½ minutes if they’ve been in storage a while or had a dead battery wipe their volatile memory.

If the receiver has an internet connection, it can use that to get the information it needs almost instantly.

Platystemon has a new favorite as of 10:18 on Feb 26, 2016

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Well I've learned something new today.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


On the other end of the spectrum I have been slowly gathering bits and pieces for a GPS system for sub 10CM accuracy GPS using RTK (Real Time Kinematics). To do this I need a radio link from a known accurate location to a GPS receiver in the field. Mainly to do detailed boundary logging and eventually to make a device for my grandpa to log all the Lantana and other invasive weeds dangerous to his cattle on the farm.

These projects really really annoy my wife-to-be.

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Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Platystemon posted:

It’s not just coarse position that’s needed, but also information regarding the the orbits of the satellites in the GPS constellation.

That data is constantly broadcast over GPS channels, but a receiver has to listen for 12½ minutes to get it all. Standalone GPS receivers take at least thirty seconds to get a fix after they’re powered on, and the full 12½ minutes if they’ve been in storage a while or had a dead battery wipe their volatile memory.

If the receiver has an internet connection, it can use that to get the information it needs almost instantly.

Is this the same as the GPS ephemeris data I can download and save to my old school TomTom sat nav which doesn't have any Internet connection of its own?

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