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7c Nickel posted:I have a CRT TV that was produced right before the big switchover to flatscreens. It weighs 235 pounds. I had a 27" TV that weighed about 110 pounds. It worked just fine (other than taking about 10 seconds to warm up) and I tried to give to Goodwill. They refused it . I decided I wasn't going to lug it back upstairs, so I left it by the dumpster at my apartment complex on a Saturday afternoon. Next morning, it was gone. I just bought a 48" LED TV and it weighed hardly anything.
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I had a 32 inch Sharp CRT television that stayed upstairs for like 4 years because no one wanted to risk bringing it down the stairs. I actually got it down the stairs and to the front door before it tipped a little bit. 
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Mar 8, 2016 21:36
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I'm so glad I gave away my tube tv. It was 32 or 34", widescreen pseudo-HD (720 in the middle "square" of the screen, much less on the widescreen "edges"), had an actual flat glass screen, was much skinnier than normal, and weighed more than 150lbs.
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Mar 8, 2016 22:06
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I once carried a 36" Sony Trinitron up to a 3rd story apartment by myself. This was probably 15 years ago though. And I took it about 1 step at a time. And it took maybe an hour.
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Mar 8, 2016 22:36
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Trebek posted:I once carried a 36" Sony Trinitron up to a 3rd story apartment by myself. Okay, I've always wanted to ask this: was it really six million dollars to fix you up after the crash, or was that just a marketing thing?
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Mar 8, 2016 22:48
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:Okay, I've always wanted to ask this: was it really six million dollars to fix you up after the crash, or was that just a marketing thing? Well, it'd be closer to $22.59 million back in 2001.
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Mar 8, 2016 22:55
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My inlaws had a monstrosity of a Sony Trinitron in the basement. It conveyed with the house when they sold it.
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The Gasmask posted:I'm so glad I gave away my tube tv. It was 32 or 34", widescreen pseudo-HD (720 in the middle "square" of the screen, much less on the widescreen "edges"), had an actual flat glass screen, was much skinnier than normal, and weighed more than 150lbs. I had never heard about a TV with different resolutions for different parts of the screen before.
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Mar 8, 2016 23:09
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The Gasmask posted:I'm so glad I gave away my tube tv. It was 32 or 34", widescreen pseudo-HD (720 in the middle "square" of the screen, much less on the widescreen "edges"), had an actual flat glass screen, was much skinnier than normal, and weighed more than 150lbs. Lemme guess -- Sanyo?
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Mar 8, 2016 23:32
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I still have my 32" flatscreen Trinitron CRT from 2003 and I probably always will because maybe in 10 years I will want to play nintendo. And also because that model has to weigh 300 lbs.
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Mar 9, 2016 00:37
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Trabant posted:Lemme guess -- Sanyo? I thought it was an LG, but I just searched online and couldn't find it, so now I'm not sure. Could've been any cheaper brand, because I know I didn't pay more than 400 for it, on sale. The tech was something to do with multiple beams in the tv, I think to allow it to be so thin. I can't say if it was actually lighter than a full HD crt of the same size, but I'd assume so.
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Aw my 36", 16x9, 280lb, 480-line Samsung flat tube I bought new for like $300 only lasted about four years before the cathode ray made a *SPLONNNK* sound and stopped working. Luckiy those were the four years that LCD TVs went from used car prices to used appliance prices I kinda miss it, component looked sharper than any other tube TV, and the colors were amazing. It being SD, though, it'd probably be relegated to emulator duty nowadays Peanut Butler has a new favorite as of 01:46 on Mar 9, 2016 |
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Mar 9, 2016 01:44
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Trebek posted:I once carried a 36" Sony Trinitron up to a 3rd story apartment by myself. This was probably 15 years ago though. And I took it about 1 step at a time. And it took maybe an hour. What was the largest CRT TV? Whatever it is - using it and doing what you did should be in the world strongman competition
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Mar 9, 2016 09:14
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Fo3 posted:I have a first gen I never use (bought it for my partner as she wanted sports and fit, and I thought "may as well, get a new mario cart"). heh, I didn't realise Widdy released these things to the outside world. :-)
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I used to know a guy who would happily take any free giant CRTs he could get. He was an amateur flintknapper, and thought the front glass out of the tube was the best glass for decorative arrowheads. I warned him that he was dealing with leaded glass, but he shrugged it off. I did commission a handful of glass arrowheads from him once for a Mother's Day present, but I provided him with some thick-bottomed blue glass drinking tumblers for those. Giving my mother chipped leaded glass would have been sending the wrong message. rndmnmbr has a new favorite as of 09:29 on Mar 9, 2016 |
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Mar 9, 2016 09:23
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I thought drinking out of or eating off of leaded glass wasn't really that big of a deal? It was more leaded decanters and things like that which people would store wine or booze in (sometimes weeks or months at a time for booze) that caused the real issues.
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Plinkey posted:I thought drinking out of or eating off of leaded glass wasn't really that big of a deal? It was more leaded decanters and things like that which people would store wine or booze in (sometimes weeks or months at a time for booze) that caused the real issues. Flintknapping involves turning it to powder, though.
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Humphreys posted:What was the largest CRT TV? Whatever it is - using it and doing what you did should be in the world strongman competition
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IndustrialApe posted:heh, I didn't realise Widdy released these things to the outside world. :-) Yeah, there's also Ironing Maiden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyPV4oVPBvE I love the intros and music for both. Worth installing homebrew and a download if you still have a wii. I haven't laughed so much in years. Fo3 has a new favorite as of 16:11 on Mar 9, 2016 |
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Humphreys posted:What was the largest CRT TV? Whatever it is - using it and doing what you did should be in the world strongman competition My wife's uncle had a massive CRT TV that dwarfed our 32 inch one. It had to be in the 40 inch range. It looks absolutely massive because of the aspect ratio. A 60 inch LCD would still probably be shorter than that television. I remember there being really odd TV sizes. I picked out some TV's my mom wanted to give my siblings for Christmas. I got a great deal on a couple of 25 inch televisions. Ends up that size and 4x3 ratios required more curve or something, because there were no straight lines on those displays.
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The only thing I miss about CRTs is my cat sleeping on the vents at the back rather than on my keyboard all the time. I remember switching to LED and a real confused cat for a while looking at the back of it for her sleeping place.
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Mar 9, 2016 16:42
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Not quite the same, but I used to live in a flat with a ~60 inch rear projection TV on casters. The TV was long since useless, but the thee colour tubes still worked (kind of) and you could tune the TV so it would pick up channels and the tubes still showed moving pictures. Well, I say pictures, but blobs is a better word. Anyway, with that TV we took the front screen off, replaced the rear mirror with a white board and put a plate of glass in the bottom above the tubes. That turned it into a bitching liqour cabinet. You can't do that with a flat screen
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Humphreys posted:What was the largest CRT TV? Whatever it is - using it and doing what you did should be in the world strongman competition Here's a candidate: Hitachi 65f710a, at abotu 309 pounds.
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Fo3 posted:Yeah, there's also Ironing Maiden I just realised I have one! I wonder if he also uploaded the shooting gallery he made at TRSAC in october.
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Wilford Cutlery posted:Here's a candidate: Hitachi 65f710a, at abotu 309 pounds. That is a CRT rear projection. It is heavy as it is because they typically have 3 CRT's in the bottom that project onto the screen. The largest direct view commercially available 4:3 CRT TVs were in the 40-42" range. 16:9 may have gone up to 46".
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About a year ago I picked up a 42 inch rear projection TV work was giving away. It actually wasn't as heavy or massive as I thought it'd be, likely because it was made in 2007 and came out around the time when LCDs were too expensive for that size. It was still a good 75lbs or so, though. Eventually got rid of it a few weeks ago when I bought a 55in LED that weighs about 1/3 of the old one. 
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LethalGeek posted:Congrats you will die with that TV You could probably be buried in it too! Personally I'd have them arrange my corpse so it looks like I'm banging at the screen and screaming and trying to get out. Would help to have a white background with a bunch of black dots on it too. Edit: I picked up a 24 inch Sony Trinitron a couple of years ago for the basement. it weighed 40 pounds more than same size the CRT I replaced. I don't ever want to move it again.
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titties posted:I still have my 32" flatscreen Trinitron CRT from 2003 and I probably always will because maybe in 10 years I will want to play nintendo. And also because that model has to weigh 300 lbs. The only TVs that rivaled Trinitrons (or other large tube TVs) were those giant projection TVs. My parents tried to pawn off their old 50" projection on me but it was a POS and needed repairs I couldn't afford. Plus I live in a third floor apartment, so gently caress that noise - I'm not lugging it up and I'm sure as hell not putting movers through that. Quiet Feet posted:You could probably be buried in it too! Maybe a tasteful Urnitron conversion, where your ashes scroll on screen like static? 
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Humphreys posted:What was the largest CRT TV? Whatever it is - using it and doing what you did should be in the world strongman competition edit: Today's Google Doodle honors Clara Rockmore, Theremin virtuosa, with an interactive theremin lesson and theremin emulator. http://www.google.com/doodles/clara-rockmores-105th-birthday GWBBQ has a new favorite as of 05:40 on Mar 10, 2016 |
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GWBBQ posted:That was the death of CRTs, you had to load it up with leaded glass several inches thick to get x-ray emissions down to acceptable levels. So X-rays are what the "low radiation" CRTs started emitting less of?  Should I use a Geiger counter when using old PC monitors, especially really light ones?
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Buttcoin purse posted:So X-rays are what the "low radiation" CRTs started emitting less of? Relax, they had to conform to regulations mandating a maximum exposure rate to users.
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I picked up a pretty decent Panasonic 14" CRT TV just yesterday (From a charity shop) and was suprised at how heavy that little sucker turned out to be, I've got it rigged up to a PS1 and a DVD/Video combo I still maintain that good CRT's produce a significantly more pleasing picture than any modern LCD in standard definition.
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BattleMaster posted:Relax, they had to conform to regulations mandating a maximum exposure rate to users. They did, but drifting out of spec is a CRTs favourite thing to do over time. That and committing suicide by cat.
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Gaz2k21 posted:I picked up a pretty decent Panasonic 14" CRT TV just yesterday (From a charity shop) and was suprised at how heavy that little sucker turned out to be, I've got it rigged up to a PS1 and a DVD/Video combo I still maintain that good CRT's produce a significantly more pleasing picture than any modern LCD in standard definition. For video games made for them this is often true. Most video games in that era were made assuming they could take advantage of the natural line separations created by tube television and a lot of 3D games also were taking advantage of the natural softening effect a lot of CRTs have on images.
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Non Serviam posted:Most of those stories, as shown by the lack of citations, seem more like urban legends. You would be shocked. It wasn't until 1924 that people started to figure out that long distance runners should eat sugars while exercising. Before then people collapsing from hypoglycemia during a marathon was commonplace, although they didn't know the actual cause. The tonics were probably loaded with sugar to mask the godawful taste of the "medicine" so I could definitely see them giving a bonking runner a dose and then misattributing the resulting sudden perkiness to the active ingredient. Here's the 1924 study if you have journal access: http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=240244
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wipeout posted:They did, but drifting out of spec is a CRTs favourite thing to do over time. That and committing suicide by cat. I was gonna say this is completely wrong...but then I thought about it, and realized it might only be somewhat wrong. To explain: The generation of x-rays by a CRT is due to the accelerated electrons slamming into inner surfaces of the tube and releasing x-rays via Bremsstrahlung ("braking radiation"). The intensity of the x-rays generated is based on a lot of things (electron energy, the material they are colliding with, strength of the vacuum where the collision occurs, and amount of shielding), but the only thing that could vary is the electron energy. As far an I'm aware, CRT brightness is controlled by adjusting the electron beam control grid voltage--this determines the accelerating force propelling the electrons, and thus their energy. Why would this be affected by age? Because as a CRT ages, the phosphors patterned on the inner surface of the CRT glass age and become less efficient---they aren't as bright! Users will compensate for this by increasing the brightness of their CRT, which increases the electron beam energy, and produces more energetic x-rays. This is still wrong, however, because even if you increase the CRT brightness, it will still be safe at it's maximum brightness.
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El Estrago Bonito posted:For video games made for them this is often true. Most video games in that era were made assuming they could take advantage of the natural line separations created by tube television and a lot of 3D games also were taking advantage of the natural softening effect a lot of CRTs have on images. I didn't save the article, but I read something about CRT emulation a while back that decried the proliferation of scan-line effects and sharp pixels in "retro" games. The game examples of raster-patterns and showed how they were meant to be blended together by the display, and not rendered as perfect bitmaps.
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Slanderer posted:I didn't save the article, but I read something about CRT emulation a while back that decried the proliferation of scan-line effects and sharp pixels in "retro" games. The game examples of raster-patterns and showed how they were meant to be blended together by the display, and not rendered as perfect bitmaps. This is probably biggest with the Atari 2600. It had no frame buffer or video RAM, just a register that held one scan line's worth of data that had to be updated during the horizontal and vertical blanking intervals (and when programmers got a better handle on the platform, during the scan interval itself). So playing those games on a real one with RF modulator and CRT looks way different than playing it on an "emulator" which really doesn't actually emulate what's going on under the hood because the current display doesn't even have support the concept of a scan line. This is a solid book about it, if you're into that kind of thing: https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/racing-beam
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Phanatic posted:This is probably biggest with the Atari 2600. It had no frame buffer or video RAM, just a register that held one scan line's worth of data that had to be updated during the horizontal and vertical blanking intervals (and when programmers got a better handle on the platform, during the scan interval itself). So playing those games on a real one with RF modulator and CRT looks way different than playing it on an "emulator" which really doesn't actually emulate what's going on under the hood because the current display doesn't even have support the concept of a scan line. Different how? That sounds kind of interesting and I want to learn more.
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xanthan posted:Different how? That sounds kind of interesting and I want to learn more. Slightly different subject but you might also be interested in learning about CGA composite colors which are an amazing example of turning what should be a bug (certain pixel arrangements caused massive color distortions when when output over a composite video interface) into a feature. Essentially the programmers traded resolution for a greatly expanded color palette.
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