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JakeP posted:lol look at this scumbo mad bitter that town owning him with game breaking strats it's just boring. solving the game by gaming the mechanics is not fun to me
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TMMadman posted:Everyone should just stop trying to game the mechanics because all it's going to end up doing is confirming a scum as town. Just play the game naturally and scum hunt. I read this as vote GG. LIKE SERIOUSLY GUYS If we let a tracked player who visited someone that lost Bp go then it's our own drat faults when we lose.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 16:53 |
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Not saying we shouldn't do it to win, but it's not nearly as enjoyable
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Jimson posted:I read this as vote GG.
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Also, I highly doubt that Cpig would go through all the trouble of updating and improving his game just to let it be solved through mechanics.
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Puntification posted:based on what? Just how I would imagine the mechanics would interact. If I had HP and a bulletproof, I would be pretty upset if a 1 HP damage attack could pop that and remove my protection from nightdeath. I feel like the BP would only get popped if a player were going to die. Combine it with a strange claimed action by GG and knowing that if someone claimed to attack FL they would be cleared as town and I feel good about that intuition since no one is stepping up to the plate for it. Still have Azuth and Kumba to check in, but Jimson was also attacked so I assume at least one of them will be claiming that.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 16:54 |
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Kashuno posted:it's just boring. solving the game by gaming the mechanics is not fun to me i'm more of a in it to win it kinda guy so i'll take whatever i can get no matter how out of the general spirit of mafia it is, frankly i think it is just scummy to not take advantage of any mechanics we can in a setup like this, and if you wanted to play a pure mafia game you shouldn't have signed up for one with so many gimmicks
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TMMadman posted:Everyone should just stop trying to game the mechanics because all it's going to end up doing is confirming a scum as town. Just play the game naturally and scum hunt. Nah. Kashuno posted:it's just boring. solving the game by gaming the mechanics is not fun to me I've only played a handful of games and I'm already tired of players going "Look at this OMGUS" or "This is a WIFOM" It's interesting to see if there are holes we can poke in the system. If we can game the mechanics, it means future games can be developed to have mechanics that are breakable. More ways to play mafia would surely not be a bad thing.
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so if players attack other players to "test" them, what happens when someone has 1 attack? They do no damage to anyone by virtue of the rules if I understand correctly Attack Choose a player, your attack stat will be compared to their defense stat and this will determine damage dealt.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 16:56 |
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chaoslord posted:Combine it with a strange claimed action by GG and knowing that if someone claimed to attack FL they would be cleared as town and I feel good about that intuition since no one is stepping up to the plate for it. Still have Azuth and Kumba to check in, but Jimson was also attacked so I assume at least one of them will be claiming that. and yeah GGs claimed power is like a super weak version of Max's claimed power
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Infinitum posted:If we can game the mechanics, it means future games can be developed to have mechanics that are NOT* breakable.
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JakeP posted:i'm more of a in it to win it kinda guy so i'll take whatever i can get no matter how out of the general spirit of mafia it is, frankly i think it is just scummy to not take advantage of any mechanics we can in a setup like this, and if you wanted to play a pure mafia game you shouldn't have signed up for one with so many gimmicks Kashuno posted:Not saying we shouldn't do it to win, but it's not nearly as enjoyable
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 16:57 |
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Kashuno posted:so if players attack other players to "test" them, what happens when someone has 1 attack? They do no damage to anyone by virtue of the rules if I understand correctly depends if a player is advised whenever they are attacked or only if they take damage
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I didnt ge to that post yett!
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JakeP posted:depends if a player is advised whenever they are attacked or only if they take damage good point
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I'm actually a little curious about Azuth. He only made 4 posts during D1 and then publicly saved the lynch. I would normally think that's a town power, but it also denies town information. Plus he didn't bother to mention that he could solve the thunderdome problem.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 16:59 |
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Kashuno posted:good point A point I've made many times, because I have 5 def.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 17:00 |
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TMMadman posted:I'm actually a little curious about Azuth. He only made 4 posts during D1 and then publicly saved the lynch. I would normally think that's a town power, but it also denies town information. Plus he didn't bother to mention that he could solve the thunderdome problem. This is a pretty solid post and I didn't consider this angle.
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Jimson posted:A point I've made many times, because I have 5 def. didnt you take a damage last night?
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 17:01 |
Kashuno posted:so if players attack other players to "test" them, what happens when someone has 1 attack? They do no damage to anyone by virtue of the rules if I understand correctly Players with 1 attack would go to the zone that gives them bonuses to attack. Match a player with 1 attack with 1 defence and it might work. If the attack fails you'd probably get a "Action unsuccessful" message. We're trying to whittle the list down on potential scum candidates. It'll be practically impossible to verify all of town, but we might be able confirm some and thus gain an advantage through mechanics. I'll have a think about it, as I said it's 2am and I should probably get some sleep.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 17:01 |
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I don't see a scum azuth using his power to prevent me from being lynched, scum wouldnt want to prolong the game that way i dont think
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 17:02 |
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TMMadman posted:I'm actually a little curious about Azuth. He only made 4 posts during D1 and then publicly saved the lynch. I would normally think that's a town power, but it also denies town information. Plus he didn't bother to mention that he could solve the thunderdome problem. i also hate meta arguments, but in his GBS game he was a very prolific poster and he was town sooo
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 17:02 |
Ehhhhh, I'm with Kash in that I would rather just use what I have and play this game normally. Like right now, beyond what they've posted, I'm fairly certain TMM is town since he did the most boring possible thing in the most boring location. Also the different stat stuff will throw a wrench into everything.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 17:03 |
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Infinitum posted:Players with 1 attack would go to the zone that gives them bonuses to attack. And what's to stop scum from being attacked and being like "nah no damage here!" or if scum and scum end up being tested they can just confirm it.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 17:03 |
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Does anyone have a recent votecount?
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 17:04 |
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there is also the possibility of abilities that change targets, block abilities, etc etc. It's a path that will waste valuable time for town while scum searches the wastes from d3 onward.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 17:04 |
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300 new posts. i want to die.
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Kashuno posted:And what's to stop scum from being attacked and being like "nah no damage here!" or if scum and scum end up being tested they can just confirm it. Also what happens if I accidentally attack too strong and kill someone
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 17:04 |
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JakeP posted:I don't see a scum azuth using his power to prevent me from being lynched, scum wouldnt want to prolong the game that way i dont think And I could see scum using that power for exactly this response. What better way to 'prove' you're town than to prevent an early D1 thunderdome?
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 17:04 |
Rurea posted:Does anyone have a recent votecount? Ask FL, he fixed Votefinder.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 17:06 |
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JakeP posted:didnt you take a damage last night? Yeah which means who ever attacked me has some serious hardware.
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GulagDolls posted:300 new posts. i want to die. tl;dr: Jake tracked GG to FL, FL claims lost BP. *MECHANICS CHAT* Now.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 17:06 |
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Considering we have over 24 hours till deadline, id like to see if any of the people with less than 10 posts have something to say
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 17:09 |
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Kashuno posted:tl;dr: Jake tracked GG to FL, FL claims lost BP. Can we please get a vote count <3
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 17:09 |
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I think as town we need to make a HUGE note of the people fighting us over GG.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 17:15 |
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we have a moral duty to break the game if we can
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 17:16 |
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Jimson posted:I legit only saw 3 people haha my perception is rear end. I was looking at Jimson's damage stuff and saw this. Jimson can you double check how many people you saw?
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 17:16 |
Flying Leatherman posted:I was looking at Jimson's damage stuff and saw this. Jimson can you double check how many people you saw? That's not a surprising result. TMM also saw less people than me at the pods. It has to do with how good your Perception is, I think.
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Max posted:That's not a surprising result. TMM also saw less people than me at the pods. It has to do with how good your Perception is, I think. Trust me Max, I have a reason for this
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i've been in meetings for hours the 9 person list is accurate to the best of my knowledge i already claimed i went searching, that's how i found this booze
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