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FFV works because it's frankly a really easy game. I'm glad that my first playthrough was the fiesta. If I had all of the jobs to choose from I'd be paralyzed with indecision and overgrind when it's not really necessary.
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Genocyber posted:Seconding that this is a bad+dumb idea. Unless you're willing to do hours of grinding you're not gonna make it far. I did just play through 2 so I just finished dealing with miserable and awful grinding. If I get horribly stuck I'll quit and just play like normal... so probably in a day or two.
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May 22, 2016 22:29
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KataraniSword posted:If you think Brave Exvius looks to be less skinner box (or trashfire mobage, to quote zolthorg) than FFRK, then ahahaha, oh boy do I have news for you. Well I mean the free exploring and side-questing as opposed to just menu managing between battles already puts it head and shoulders above FFRK imho, but yes I realize there's a lot of similar elements still, especially the gachapon collecting. I'm still interested regardless.
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May 22, 2016 22:36
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KataraniSword posted:Oh lord, don't do this to yourself. The other problem is that FF3 took some inspiration from FF1 to a degree and a lot of the later jobs are flat out upgrades to existing jobs and are meant to replace them, like Magus is literally just "Black Mage but better," as Black Mage can't even cast level 8 Black Magic spells. At least in the Famicom version, the awful DS version did some "rebalancing" to try and keep the early jobs relevant and unique from the jobs that were clearly meant to replace them, which makes them a lot less good than in the original. The remake of FF3 is so completely awful, goddamn.
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May 22, 2016 22:59
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FF3 isn't balanced like FF5 is; it's more like FFX-2 where the mindset is to hotswap jobs into what you need for a situation. No matter what you pull (unless it's "Sage and Ninja, all day erryday"), you're going to get stonewalled.
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Just a clarification, taking Mime or Freelancer from the job fair replaces one of your regular jobs, so it'd be like Knight/Freelancer/Ninja/Dancer, right?
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May 23, 2016 02:16
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Just a clarification, taking Mime or Freelancer from the job fair replaces one of your regular jobs, so it'd be like Knight/Freelancer/Ninja/Dancer, right? Yeah, any sort of job fairing replaces one crystal draw.
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May 23, 2016 02:23
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So, something occurred to me. See, I actually work in a hospital that's connected to the Child's Play network (in the kitchens, but still). I started thinking that maybe I could use that to gather some more donations for the Festival, either by soliciting from co-workers (and maybe asking the Human Resources dept to match donations, though I doubt it) or for a different approach, try to get people to sponsor me and pledge X monies for my runs. Thoughts? Anyone done something similar before?
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May 23, 2016 02:34
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Every year it's hard to not burnout before the Fiesta begins. But I like playing during the fiesta better because it makes me finish my run instead of just starting a new run. I guess I could prepare for Chaos and get every job to Garula... And I really like playing the mobile version with the auto-fight, but not having speedup of an emulator just has it take so much longer in the end.
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May 23, 2016 02:47
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Just a clarification, taking Mime or Freelancer from the job fair replaces one of your regular jobs, so it'd be like Knight/Freelancer/Ninja/Dancer, right? Yes, specifically it replaces your Earth Crystal pull. So you'd have Wind/Water/Fire/Freelancer or Mime.
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May 23, 2016 02:50
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Wait, what? You can only replace your earth crystal class?
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May 23, 2016 03:08
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Oh man it is this time again already? Time flies. (My kid actually likes Gilgamesh now)
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May 23, 2016 03:30
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Nihilarian posted:Wait, what? You can only replace your earth crystal class? For the Job Fair, you can only replace a job with jobs that would have come from the same crystal you're replacing. In the case of the Freelancer and the Mime, they're assigned to the Earth Crystal for the purpose of the Job Fair. Wind - Knight, Monk, Thief, White Mage, Black Mage, Blue Mage Water - Berserker, Mystic Knight, Red Mage, Time Mage, Summoner Fire - Ninja, Beastmaster, Geomancer, Ranger, Bard Earth - Dragoon, Samurai, Dancer, Chemist, Freelancer, Mime
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May 23, 2016 03:35
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StrangeAeon posted:So, something occurred to me. I think a sponsor drive is your best thought process here, so it's entirely a personal thing. Random thought--if the children the charity benefits directly are there in your hospital, is there a way to get them involved?
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May 23, 2016 03:45
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Choco1980 posted:I think a sponsor drive is your best thought process here, so it's entirely a personal thing. Good question. I work in the kitchens, so I don't see much of Blank normally, and I don't know how many kids are longer-term stays, or how many mediums we have for potentially playing FFV in-house as it were. Probably the best bet would be streaming, either a run of my own or The Run itself.
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May 23, 2016 04:39
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Oh man, that time already? Well, I'm no longer managing a restaurant this year and just working part time like some slacktastic idiot so I should have plenty of time to actually play properly this year. Guess I should start warming up.
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May 23, 2016 17:39
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For chaos runs, if you get a job from a later crystal do you just run freelancer or other jobs it gave you you do have, or is unlocking them all from the start considered fine
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May 23, 2016 18:21
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RME posted:For chaos runs, if you get a job from a later crystal do you just run freelancer or other jobs it gave you you do have, or is unlocking them all from the start considered fine considering the only check is at the end of the game (and the guy's accepted our Cactaur-Exdeath mod) unlocking all jobs from the start is a legit way to do it, though you may be limited by equipment options.
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May 23, 2016 18:24
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I ran Freelancer until that job was unlocked, personally. It's what makes the most sense to me. Practice run update: #Wind, シーフ (Thief)! I'm debating whether or not to run this as #Natural too, but so far I'm not. Grinding for Daggers in the ship graveyard right now.
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May 23, 2016 18:26
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Bargain bin Laden posted:I'm debating whether or not to run this as #Natural too  DON'T PLAY NATURAL THAT MEANS CLASSIC, TOO, SINCE IT'S NATURAL
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May 23, 2016 18:29
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Fair enough. Got all 4 daggers anyway, off to Siren.
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May 23, 2016 18:31
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RME posted:For chaos runs, if you get a job from a later crystal do you just run freelancer or other jobs it gave you you do have, or is unlocking them all from the start considered fine
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May 23, 2016 18:33
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The idea is that once you get your first job, all your freelancers become that job and you never go back to freelancer again, right? And you just fill out the rest of your team as the other jobs become available?
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May 23, 2016 18:34
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I figured it would be alright, it just seems a bit boring to get stuck in freelancer because all you got were later jobs
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May 23, 2016 18:42
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That brings up a good scenario: what if you rolled a Chaos run, and didn't check all your jobs until you got to each crystal? Example, your 'Wind' Job was from the Earth Crystal, so would you have to Freelancer all the way to Earth, or should you reveal all jobs at the start of a Chaos run and just implement them in crystal order instead of rolled order? ...this probably made more sense in my head.
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May 23, 2016 18:45
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StrangeAeon posted:That brings up a good scenario: what if you rolled a Chaos run, and didn't check all your jobs until you got to each crystal? Example, your 'Wind' Job was from the Earth Crystal, so would you have to Freelancer all the way to Earth, or should you reveal all jobs at the start of a Chaos run and just implement them in crystal order instead of rolled order? Chaos sorts your jobs into crystal order, so if your Wind job is from the Earth crystal, you know the other three will be as well. Likewise, you'll only get a Wind job from the Earth crystal if all four of your jobs are Wind jobs.
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May 23, 2016 18:48
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Chaos prioritizes job order by crystal so if you got a water job, two fire, and an earth, it would always give them to you in the order of water, fire, fire, earth, I believe.
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May 23, 2016 18:51
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Edward_Tohr posted:Chaos sorts your jobs into crystal order, so if your Wind job is from the Earth crystal, you know the other three will be as well. Solved before it was even a problem, then!
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May 23, 2016 18:57
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get the Chaos IPS and try out neat things like getting annihilated by Garula because it counterattacks for every hit you do to it as a Ninja, you can get hit up to three times including a Rush, so that's three attacks to your two if you grind Daggers in the Ship Graveyard 
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May 23, 2016 18:58
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RME posted:For chaos runs, if you get a job from a later crystal do you just run freelancer or other jobs it gave you you do have, or is unlocking them all from the start considered fine My bot doesn't do it because I'm bad, but the way Gilgabot does it is it randomly generates, and then sorts/presents them to you in ascending crystal order, so it tries as hard as it can to minimize your freelancer time - that is, if the bot rolled Chemist/Samurai/Dancer/Berserker, you'd get them presented to you Berserker/Chemist/Dancer/Samurai. Though yeah, if you want to use one of the patches that unlocks all jobs from the start (or use a gameshark code, whatever), that's kosher. That's how I did every run I did last year. It has its ups and downs (4 Bards on Garula is even worse than 4 Thieves on Garula, if you can believe it!).
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May 23, 2016 19:04
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Kyrosiris posted:
Bards are even worse at ganking than Thieves and they can't steal mythril knives. Makes perfect sense.
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May 23, 2016 19:17
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Hell yes it's back, I haven't read the thread yet but if there aren't any cool new game modes I'm totally doing berserkerrisk + no750 for my intro playthrough cuz that poo poo was super fun for getting things going last year. happy 10 year forum anniversary Kyro.
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May 23, 2016 20:31
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Poque posted:happy 10 year forum anniversary Kyro. Huh, would've never noticed if you didn't say something. Thanks. 
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May 23, 2016 20:58
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ALRIGHT, time for some fiesta! 
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May 23, 2016 21:03
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Doing my first FFV run as a FJF run this year! As someone who doesn't want to reload a thousand times, the risk of a single Berserker on Normal shouldn't be overly frustrating, right?
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May 23, 2016 21:17
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A singular Berserker is one of the better classes you can get
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May 23, 2016 21:18
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The problem though is it being the same crystal as Time Mage, Summoner, and Mystic Knight. But even then one Berserker is fine except in a few cases and will do very well with other jobs' passives.
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May 23, 2016 21:45
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RME posted:I figured it would be alright, it just seems a bit boring to get stuck in freelancer because all you got were later jobs Kind of. One of the weirder things about Freelancer is that it isn't actually the worst or most boring job in the game, even with two blank passive slots. The ability to equip anything is a pretty substantial boon that enables them to take advantage of every unique/interesting piece of gear in the game. alcharagia posted:A singular Berserker is one of the better classes you can get It's not bad but it's still kind of a bummer on Normal b/c three of the other four water jobs are fantastic and more fun.
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May 23, 2016 21:49
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Zombies' Downfall posted:Kind of. To wit, Sullla's Freelancer SSCC is really interesting reading.
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May 23, 2016 21:54
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Water job: しょうかんし! (Summoner) Never much cared for this class in casual play, so never used them much. This should be interesting.
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Bargain bin Laden posted:Water job: しょうかんし! (Summoner) The ability to point at a random encounter and go "nah, y'all dead" with Ramuh/Titan/Syldra is a good feeling. (Bahamut and Leviathan are traps and only worth using if you are a monk using !Summon/have a Chemist respectively)
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