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Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

CLAM DOWN posted:

Do you work with me? There's this old guy down the hall who refuses to use PowerShell because "what's the point, I can just make a batch file"

I got asked to rewrite a bunch of fairly complicated PowerShell scripts in batch, just in case we run into a server 2003 server. Thankfully at least two other engineers immediately spoke up and shot that idea down.

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Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
The Powershell solution was a single line, the cmd one was several steps, it seems like a pretty clear point in favor of Powershell there.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Inspector_666 posted:

The Powershell solution was a single line, the cmd one was several steps, it seems like a pretty clear point in favor of Powershell there.

Your batch script is a single line as well if you really cared that much. :ssh:

I personally don't care to change a basic script unless there is a reason to do it.

Sickening fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Jun 21, 2016

deedee megadoodoo
Sep 28, 2000
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one to Flavortown, and that has made all the difference.


Inspector_666 posted:

The Powershell solution was a single line, the cmd one was several steps, it seems like a pretty clear point in favor of Powershell there.

I get what you're saying but be careful with this line of thinking because this is how you end up with perl everywhere.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

HatfulOfHollow posted:

I get what you're saying but be careful with this line of thinking because this is how you end up with perl regex everywhere.

Fixed that for you.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Given the push from MS towards powershell for everything it seems wise to learn the way that isn't likely to be deprecated in a future release, and to build your scripts with that in mind.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Use powershell for everything, change your color scheme to monochrome green on black so everyone thinks you're an expert hacker.

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Use powershell for everything, change your color scheme to monochrome green on black so everyone thinks you're an expert hacker.

This but you are actually playing a telnet game.

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003

Methanar posted:

This but you are actually playing a telnet game.

Old heads in the thread have probably actually done this before, I know I have - lots of MUDs and mtrek while waiting for things to finish back in the day.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Sheep posted:

Old heads in the thread have probably actually done this before, I know I have - lots of MUDs and mtrek while waiting for things to finish back in the day.

Story time!

Years ago, when I was in the Navy, I was on a ship and my work location was a fairly isolated room on the ship, a gyroscope room that you had to climb down a 30 foot ladder to reach.
I'd sit at a desk and keep an eye on my email while playing Dwarf Fortress on my laptop.

A few other people in my division realized what a great isolated location it was, so when they had free time, they set up a standalone World of Warcraft Vanilla server and they'd play. No big deal to me, they were pretty quiet and since they were off duty, it wasn't like they had work to be doing. This was fine until one day, one of the WoW group claimed he was sick and was placed in SiQ (Sick in Quarter) status. The idea behind that is that if you're so sick that you can't work, you need to be in bed, getting out only to eat, shower and poo poo. Instead, he came down and started playing WoW with everyone.

Someone in this guy's division must have thought something was up, because the ship's Master at Arms (Ship Police) got sent to check on him, he wasn't in bed, and wasn't eating. He eventually found out about the hangout spot in the Gyro room and quietly snuck in.

I remember him walking around the room, seeing all the screens with stuff like this:



Then he gets to my desk and sees this:



He stared at it for a good minute, shrugged, and then escorted everyone else out for disciplinary action. He wasn't sure what it was, but he was 100% sure it wasn't a game.

Danith
May 20, 2006
I've lurked here for years
What job search sites are people having luck on? I have my resume up on linkedin, monster.com, and I think careerbuilder and I seem to only get calls from recruiters looking for some weird position on the other side of the country or bulk-emails. Also, there's so much trash on job search sites it's crazy.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





Dice, LinkedIn, Indeed and trawling local staffing firms are my go-tos

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Then he gets to my desk and sees this:



He stared at it for a good minute, shrugged, and then escorted everyone else out for disciplinary action. He wasn't sure what it was, but he was 100% sure it wasn't a game.

I'm approaching my 5th annual year of trying to learn the game. This is the year!

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Danith posted:

What job search sites are people having luck on? I have my resume up on linkedin, monster.com, and I think careerbuilder and I seem to only get calls from recruiters looking for some weird position on the other side of the country or bulk-emails. Also, there's so much trash on job search sites it's crazy.

I'm not job searching anymore but I constantly get "Windows Image Builder, Dallas, 6Mo contract" emails and calls from Indians when I'm on the east coast and I'm a UNIX admin.

Indeed.com is pretty good, but job searching these days is just super tough.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

Is there anything out there that competes with Graphviz in the automatic diagramming space?

We have a server inventory now that maps servers to applications. I have a spreadsheet that augments that with data about what function each server has within the application. In my head I can envision having a modest about of metadata stored somewhere to describe how data flows between functions, and then dumping it all out to create graphs showing application or multi-application architecture. I'm at a point where I want to build something small and demo it to try to gain some traction. I'm hoping there's something out there that works sort of like Graphviz but generates output that looks more like Visio.

goobernoodles
May 28, 2011

Wayne Leonard Kirby.

Orioles Magician.
Anyone know of a service that would transcribe voicemail into text, then email that to a per-determined email address or distribution list? In the event of an emergency, we're looking to have a phone number the person at the site could call for a quick, verbal run-down of the situation, and have that transcribed and texted to a certain group of people. We have verizon, so sending SMS by email works fine. Our phone system is an ancient piece of poo poo, not sure if newer systems do voicemail transcribing or not. This could be nice for a ticketing system as well.

hihifellow
Jun 17, 2005

seriously where the fuck did this genre come from

Danith posted:

What job search sites are people having luck on? I have my resume up on linkedin, monster.com, and I think careerbuilder and I seem to only get calls from recruiters looking for some weird position on the other side of the country or bulk-emails. Also, there's so much trash on job search sites it's crazy.

Dice and Monster get me the most cold calls/emails, Indeed gets me the best results for actively searching. 90% of the calls I get are terrible (3 mo contract halfway across the country? Sign me the gently caress up!) but every so often it's a local recruiting firm I do want to work with.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





goobernoodles posted:

Anyone know of a service that would transcribe voicemail into text, then email that to a per-determined email address or distribution list? In the event of an emergency, we're looking to have a phone number the person at the site could call for a quick, verbal run-down of the situation, and have that transcribed and texted to a certain group of people. We have verizon, so sending SMS by email works fine. Our phone system is an ancient piece of poo poo, not sure if newer systems do voicemail transcribing or not. This could be nice for a ticketing system as well.

We are getting a client an upgraded Cisco phone system that can do that.

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unity-connection/solution_overview_c22-620133.html

Lord Dudeguy
Sep 17, 2006
[Insert good English here]

goobernoodles posted:

Anyone know of a service that would transcribe voicemail into text, then email that to a per-determined email address or distribution list? In the event of an emergency, we're looking to have a phone number the person at the site could call for a quick, verbal run-down of the situation, and have that transcribed and texted to a certain group of people. We have verizon, so sending SMS by email works fine. Our phone system is an ancient piece of poo poo, not sure if newer systems do voicemail transcribing or not. This could be nice for a ticketing system as well.

Lync w/ Exchange does this.

It's hilarious. :geno:

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else
I get to stay late tonight to try and swap out a dying UC. I certainly wouldn't call myself a Cisco VoiP expert but it shouldn't be so bad. However, knowing my luck the voicemail backups are going to poo poo the bed, not push properly, and half blow up the config on import. So we shall see.

CloFan
Nov 6, 2004

I'm single-handedly migrating ~750 Exchange 2010 users (and their god drat PSTs) to Google Apps for Education. Stumbling through it.. feeling a bit out of my depth, here. So far so good? Got some test users on G.Apps and the Outlook Migration tool pushed out via SCCM. It'll be a couple/few weeks till cutover, you guys got any advice?

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Is it possible to connect two networks with the same IP ranges? For example the Main Office with 192.168.1.0/24 and 192.168.1.0/24 at the DR Site but with a VPN or MPLS Circuit.

I'm told you're able too but how anything get routed?

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

In all seriousness I'd add Craigslist to the job search list, too. Especially at the entry to lower-mid level. There's a bunch of crap on there but no more than other "real" job sites. It's just a different sort of crap :v: I may be biased, though, since a few jobs back I landed a 50% pay increase and tons of resume-boosting experience by responding to a Craigslist sysadmin posting. It's a decent resource, particularly if you aren't in a major city or want to include small companies who are interesting but don't have strong recruiting chops in your search.

rafikki
Mar 8, 2008

I see what you did there. (It's pretty easy, since ducks have a field of vision spanning 340 degrees.)

~SMcD


Tab8715 posted:

Is it possible to connect two networks with the same IP ranges? For example the Main Office with 192.168.1.0/24 and 192.168.1.0/24 at the DR Site but with a VPN or MPLS Circuit.

I'm told you're able too but how anything get routed?

Yeah, you're going to want to use NATs to do it. Here's the first thing that popped up when I did a quick search for it: https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/ip/network-address-translation-nat/13774-3.html

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


rafikki posted:

Yeah, you're going to want to use NATs to do it. Here's the first thing that popped up when I did a quick search for it: https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/ip/network-address-translation-nat/13774-3.html

Ah hah! And I also learned today there's such a thing as stretched networking.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Tab8715 posted:

Is it possible to connect two networks with the same IP ranges? For example the Main Office with 192.168.1.0/24 and 192.168.1.0/24 at the DR Site but with a VPN or MPLS Circuit.

I'm told you're able too but how anything get routed?

Are you asking if you can bridge a layer 2 network across two sites, or if you can have two disjoint networks in the same routed area both using the same IP addresses?

DigitalMocking
Jun 8, 2010

Wine is constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy.
Benjamin Franklin

Tab8715 posted:

Is it possible to connect two networks with the same IP ranges? For example the Main Office with 192.168.1.0/24 and 192.168.1.0/24 at the DR Site but with a VPN or MPLS Circuit.

I'm told you're able too but how anything get routed?

Renumber.

Don't gently caress around with NAT maps and other poo poo. Just renumber.

single-mode fiber
Dec 30, 2012

Tab8715 posted:

Is it possible to connect two networks with the same IP ranges? For example the Main Office with 192.168.1.0/24 and 192.168.1.0/24 at the DR Site but with a VPN or MPLS Circuit.

I'm told you're able too but how anything get routed?

There's lots of ways to do this--EoMPLS, VPLS, L2TPv3, etc.--but what you do depends on what your WAN and the rest of your enterprise looks like, what the use case for it is, stuff like that.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


NippleFloss posted:

Are you asking if you can bridge a layer 2 network across two sites, or if you can have two disjoint networks in the same routed area both using the same IP addresses?

I'm not sure what you mean by "bridge a layer 2 network" or "have two disjointed networks in the same routed area using the same IP Addresses."

Going forward, I have my Corporate HQ with 192.168.1.0/24 and my DR Site has 192.168.1.0/24 but for my initial replication I need to connect the two as I have a bunch of annoying legacy apps with hardcoded IPs.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


single-mode fiber posted:

There's lots of ways to do this--EoMPLS, VPLS, L2TPv3, etc.--but what you do depends on what your WAN and the rest of your enterprise looks like, what the use case for it is, stuff like that.

That's new to me, how the hell does this work exactly?

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Tab8715 posted:

I'm not sure what you mean by "bridge a layer 2 network" or "have two disjointed networks in the same routed area using the same IP Addresses."

Going forward, I have my Corporate HQ with 192.168.1.0/24 and my DR Site has 192.168.1.0/24 but for my initial replication I need to connect the two as I have a bunch of annoying legacy apps with hardcoded IPs.

So you want a VM to be able to live at either site and keeps its same IP? That would be bridging.

In some multi-tenancy situations you might want to have the same IP active in different subnetwork segments on the same network, and that would require NAT.

adorai
Nov 2, 2002

10/27/04 Never forget
Grimey Drawer

Tab8715 posted:

I'm not sure what you mean by "bridge a layer 2 network" or "have two disjointed networks in the same routed area using the same IP Addresses."

Going forward, I have my Corporate HQ with 192.168.1.0/24 and my DR Site has 192.168.1.0/24 but for my initial replication I need to connect the two as I have a bunch of annoying legacy apps with hardcoded IPs.
He wants to know if you are looking for a single network that exists at two sites but shares a single broadcast domain, or if you simply have two seperate subnets that have the same IP scheme that need to talk. If you own both of these subnets, you want to just change your range at one site. I promise it will be less painful.

1000101
May 14, 2003

BIRTHDAY BIRTHDAY BIRTHDAY BIRTHDAY BIRTHDAY BIRTHDAY FRUITCAKE!

Tab8715 posted:

I'm not sure what you mean by "bridge a layer 2 network" or "have two disjointed networks in the same routed area using the same IP Addresses."

Going forward, I have my Corporate HQ with 192.168.1.0/24 and my DR Site has 192.168.1.0/24 but for my initial replication I need to connect the two as I have a bunch of annoying legacy apps with hardcoded IPs.

How are you doing replication?

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

adorai posted:

He wants to know if you are looking for a single network that exists at two sites but shares a single broadcast domain, or if you simply have two seperate subnets that have the same IP scheme that need to talk. If you own both of these subnets, you want to just change your range at one site. I promise it will be less painful.

Yea, this, phrased better than I did.

Cenodoxus
Mar 29, 2012

while [[ true ]] ; do
    pour()
done


goobernoodles posted:

Anyone know of a service that would transcribe voicemail into text, then email that to a per-determined email address or distribution list? In the event of an emergency, we're looking to have a phone number the person at the site could call for a quick, verbal run-down of the situation, and have that transcribed and texted to a certain group of people.
...
This could be nice for a ticketing system as well.

Lord Dudeguy posted:

Lync w/ Exchange does this.

It's hilarious. :geno:

I have an Outlook folder called "Comedy Goldmine". It's almost entirely filled with hilarious typos, butt-dialed emails from executives, and Exchange transcriptions. :v:

Voicemail:

quote:

Hello, this is Lord Dudeguy calling from site 3, there was a UPS failure in our network closet and three of five servers are dead. Users can't access Exchange but intranet and internet seems to load fine. I can be reached at 317-555-8722. Thanks.
Ticket:

quote:

Hello is horde dog eye calling night tea, there was a UPS mailer in our at work clothes and three alive surfers are dead. You sirs can't a sex change but in transit and internet seems too low fine. I can breach three one seven 555-872 two tanks

Preview provided by Microsoft Speech Technology.

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
Run a stephen king audiobook through it and post the results.

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
Is there an shsc irc channel?

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.
#bofh

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012


on synirc

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Dark Helmut
Jul 24, 2004

All growns up
Probably :yotj: 'ing this week - sadly probably to another recruiting firm. Need a change of scenery and there is a smaller agency that's making a lucrative offer.

Ideally I wanted to get back closer to technology - either in a product manager-type role or in a technical support manager position - but 5 years out of hands-on is cramping my marketability. I interviewed for a support lead/account manager with a healthcare startup, but I don't have a ton of industry knowledge that would really help there nor am I strong in database support so I may not get an offer there. Will probably still look passively even with the new gig.

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