rgocs posted:

So how was the souffle?

lazorexplosion posted:

Renting an entire restaurant for an attempt at a simple date is definitely a creative take on the "nice guy spends creepily socially inappropriate amount of money on gifts for a woman as if it buys affection" thing.

Pick posted:

It was genuinely the best soufflé I have ever witnessed, it was impeccable..

Pick posted:

an old guy once rented out a restaurant for dinner with me

It was one of my most unhappy experiences, and no one seems to understand how stressful it was

Admittedly I don't like s guy to pay a big bill unless I see him as someone I would gently caress in the short or medium term :/

MY PALE GOTH SKIN posted:

Renting out an entire restaurant for anything besides an anniversary, or proposal (not six months after meeting either) seems weird. I would be so freaked out and nervous.


Am I the only person who doesn't think about who is paying what on the bill until it's time to actually pay? And then I'm just like "do you want to split it or I can pay it all or we can figure out exactly how much mine cost..." with a grin to indicate I don't care who pays for what? Is that weird? Have I offended people by doing this?
Or guys, at least? Ladydates always seem more chill but that could be in my head

Fat Shat Sings posted:

I make whore bitches pay the entire bill, and my gas money for the privilege of them getting to spend time with me.

I also make them work for all the household money when I trick them into a long term relationship because I need to masturbate to hentai at least 6 hours a day.

Blacktoll posted:

moridin itt trying to figure out how to pay a bill on a date was the most demonstrative way he could of displayed his social skills

Dinosaurmageddon posted:

Look everybody I just doxxed Skylark ^^^

ElGroucho posted:

LOL at a grown loving man wearing a video game shirt trying to impress a lady

Go buy a dress shirt and grow some hair you bald bitch

Just kidding bald dudes, you're alright

ElGroucho posted:

JFairfax posted:

lol jesus loving christ I want to see the rest of the comments hahaha what a loving little pussy rear end bitch that man is

CaptainSarcastic posted:

I think I always just tried to be prepared to pay for everything if I needed to and then otherwise just figure it out on the fly. Having strong expectations one way or another, much less getting butthurt if I wasn't allowed to pay for everything, would never occur to me.

punakone posted:

People are weird.

The girl who rejected me when I asked her out on a date but wanted to come to my place to watch netflix, using her account mind you, I dont have one lol, tried to tickle me more than once and was rubbing her legs against mine .

I just wanted to watch stranger things

Dinosaurmageddon posted:

LOVEGAMES

Dinosaurmageddon posted:

Look everybody I just doxxed Skylark ^^^

KomodoWagon posted:

Clearly this is part of her long-term strategy to keep you holding doors for her and giving her compliments while she rides the cock carrousel behind your back. Sneaky bitch.

Business Gorillas posted:

also lol that dudes would get offended at getting taken out to dinner

one of the reasons i ended up dumping my ex is because she kept on telling me she had literally no money and all she wanted to do was sit at home and watch netflix. whenever we went out, i had to go pay for it

Fat Shat Sings posted:

I like this mentality as I've been the boyfriend in 2-3 separate occasions.

The more naive the girl is about what is going on the more annoyed I get. "What, James just wants to buy me an xbox, go out to bars with him, let him buy me jewelry and go to the mall because he is that good of a friend Sure he sends me huge rants about how I'm the only one that "gets him" and how I need a "real man" but I told him I'm not interested and he totally understands that. By the way he wants me to go out to dinner with him DON'T TELL ME I CANT HAVE FRIENDS"

It's less irritating when your partner realizes and goes "Yeah the guy is kinda creepy and all he does is talk poo poo about you despite never even meeting you"

Curdy Lemonstan posted:

Jesus is this thread still going? What more is there to be said than "I cant believe these people are so wrong in their mindset" and "wow that guy was scary".

Can we turn this into the new general purpose r/relationships thread instead?

Professor Shark posted:

Is this the same woman who would bring you beer? I hope not


I hate that guy. I dated a girl and her best guy friend was apparently always telling her that he didn't see us lasting for various reasons, then one night when my girlfriend and her friend were getting ready for the bar he and I were stuck in a room together and he told me he just didn't think girlfriend and I were right for each other and she'd always told him that I was a really good friend until the day he found out we were dating.

Anyway, a while after she and I broke up they started dating and living together. After a night out they got home and she was barfing and hosed up. He wanted sex and she said no, she woke up the next morning to find out he had raped her while she was passed out

Nice Guys!

Curdy Lemonstan posted:

Jesus is this thread still going? What more is there to be said than "I cant believe these people are so wrong in their mindset" and "wow that guy was scary".

Can we turn this into the new general purpose r/relationships thread instead?

KomodoWagon posted:

You let this happen you total cvck

Professor Shark posted:

Is this the same woman who would bring you beer? I hope not


I hate that guy. I dated a girl and her best guy friend was apparently always telling her that he didn't see us lasting for various reasons, then one night when my girlfriend and her friend were getting ready for the bar he and I were stuck in a room together and he told me he just didn't think girlfriend and I were right for each other and she'd always told him that I was a really good friend until the day he found out we were dating.

Anyway, a while after she and I broke up they started dating and living together. After a night out they got home and she was barfing and hosed up. He wanted sex and she said no, she woke up the next morning to find out he had raped her while she was passed out

Nice Guys!

Professor Shark posted:

Shut the gently caress up and no I didn't

zegs posted:

last time i crushed on a girl my girl best friend who i confide in said i am too nice and let myself be used

so what gives be nice or not


i think she meant stop letting her mulch money pot and lifts at odd hours tho butt frt no more mr nice guy lol toodle-oo

Leon Einstein posted:

It really means that you shouldn't bend over backwards to do everything you think a woman wants you to do. Kissing a woman's rear end isn't the path to eating a woman's rear end.

quote:

"What Happened to All the Nice Guys?"
Originally Posted: 2007-11-19 3:52am

I see this question posted with some regularity in the personals section, so I thought I'd take a minute to explain things to the ladies out there that haven't figured it out.

What happened to all the nice guys?

The answer is simple: you did.

See, if you think back, really hard, you might vaguely remember a Platonic guy pal who always seemed to want to spend time with you. He'd tag along with you when you went shopping, stop by your place for a movie when you were lonely but didn't feel like going out, or even sit there and hold you while you sobbed and told him about how horribly the (other) guy that you were loving treated you.

At the time, you probably joked with your girlfriends about how he was a little puppy dog, always following you around, trying to do things to get you to pay attention to him. They probably teased you because they thought he had a crush on you. Given that his behavior was, admittedly, a little pathetic, you vehemently denied having any romantic feelings for him, and buttressed your position by claiming that you were "just friends." Besides, he totally wasn't your type. I mean, he was a little too short, or too bald, or too fat, or too poor, or didn't know how to dress himself, or basically be or do any of the things that your tall, good-looking, fit, rich, stylish boyfriend at the time pulled off with such ease.

Eventually, your Platonic buddy drifted away, as your relationship with the boyfriend got more serious and spending time with this other guy was, admittedly, a little weird, if you werent dating him. More time passed, and the boyfriend eventually cheated on you, or became boring, or you realized that the things that attracted you to him weren't the kinds of things that make for a good, long-term relationship. So, now, you're single again, and after having tried the bar scene for several months having only encountered players and douche bags, you wonder, "What happened to all the nice guys?"

Well, once again, you did.

You ignored the nice guy. You used him for emotional intimacy without reciprocating, in kind, with physical intimacy. You laughed at his consideration and resented his devotion. You valued the aloof boyfriend more than the attentive "just-a-" friend. Eventually, he took the hint and moved on with his life. He probably came to realize, one day, that women aren't really attracted to guys who hold doors open; or make dinners just because; or buy you a Christmas gift that you mentioned, in passing, that you really wanted five months ago; or listen when you're upset; or hold you when you cry. He came to realize that, if he wanted a woman like you, he'd have to act more like the boyfriend that you had. He probably cleaned up his look, started making some money, and generally acted like more of an rear end in a top hat than he ever wanted to be.

Fact is, now, he's probably getting laid, and in a way, your ultimate rejection of him is to thank for that. And I'm sorry that it took the complete absence of "nice guys" in your life for you to realize that you missed them and wanted them. Most women will only have a handful of nice guys stumble into their lives, if that.

So, if you're looking for a nice guy, here's what you do:

1.) Build a time machine.
2.) Go back a few years and pull your head out of your rear end.
3.) Take a look at what's right in front of you and grab ahold of it.

I suppose the other possibility is that you STILL don't really want a nice guy, but you feel the social pressure to at least appear to have matured beyond your infantile taste in men. In which case, you might be in luck, because the nice guy you claim to want has, in reality, shed his nice guy mantle and is out there looking to unleash his cynicism and resentment onto someone just like you.

If you were five years younger.

So, please: either stop misrepresenting what you want, or own up to the fact that you've hosed yourself over. You're getting older, after all. It's time to excise the bullshit and deal with reality. You didn't want a nice guy then, and he certainly doesn't loving want you, now.

Sincerely,

A Recovering Nice Guy

PallasAthene posted:

Yeah, or they act like anyone who is muscular/fit, or dresses well can't possibly be nice or intelligent. Only a sloppy guy in a t-shirt is smart enough to really get a girl, and if she has a boyfriend who doesn't fit in that mold, it's because she's a shallow whore, not because maybe someone happened to be in shape and smart or funny, or just socially well-adjusted.

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So funny how everbody jumps on the bandwagon an the females aplaud the author for being totally one sided and saying exactly what they want to hear, while he totally disregards the other side of the story, that some females indeed are bitches who just use males when they are in the need, e.g. if their rear end in a top hat boyfriend dumped her again (because he just wanted sex and nothing more, and that was clear from the beginning for everyone except for her), perfectly knowing that the guy they are using is loner who wants a girlfriend (and sex, of course) and will do pretty much anything for her, and instead of saying “You? Never!” or just talking to another person they just throw him away after use and forget it.

I mean, how can they NOT know that he of COURSE wants to gently caress with her? That does not per se mean that he ONLY wants to gently caress with her, but maybe talking and being nice to each other is not the only thing he is dreaming of… Then there are females that just tease males to ridicule them later. That makes one bitter indeed, doesn’t it? And then, if that bitter person complains, it is all HIS fault for being an rear end in a top hat in the first place? Give me a brake, that is some flawed logic there, he only became a bitter rear end in a top hat because of what happened, because females used and abused him.

You say that being nice to get sex is creepy, but then you offer the author of this post relationships (and of course sex, a relationship without sex is not a “relationship” of the kind you were talking about when you said things like “marry me” or “i want to bone you for the next 15 years”) because he was nice and said what you want to hear, so what exactly is the difference? That he not indirectly stated that he want’s sex as a reward? Or in other words, that is Nice Guy facade is just more elaborate and well hidden so that you don’t see through it? Maybe he is of the same loser-type as the guy who wrote the rant but has just taken a different aproach by doing the opposite of what the Nice Guy Loner Jerk does, while his ultimate goals remain the same: Getting into a relationship and have sex.

You all feel relieved that you can point to the guys and say “You are the assholes” while you yourself make mistakes, totally disregard his desires and are assholes yourselves, if you follow the kind of logic that is prevailing in this discussion. For example, if you are “stalked” by a guy who wants a relationship with you, you not always give him clear signals that you will never engage in such things with him, and hope that he will realise it sooner or later, while he does not, because he is terribly in love with you (and even if he only wants sex, good lord, you all sound like you have never felt the need for sex when sex wasn’t available. Oh, but i forgot, if a girl wants to gently caress she just has to ask pretty much anybody if she is relatively good looking, and even if she is not good looking she can still ask around and on the fifth try or so she will get what she wants while a guy who asks for sex is just a perverted desire-driven rear end in a top hat. Oh wait, did that sound bitter? drat, I must be one mean kind of Former Nice Guy, I should better try to learn to communicate, and really be nice, not so cynic, that will help me, ok ok, maybe i should state clearly what i want instead of being passive-aggressive (oh poo poo, that would be sex first, relationship later, then that is not an option, dammit, my fault for having not the same priorities that are required to get sex, wich would be: Don’t desire Sex at any time, isn’t that really hosed up?)).

TL;DR: There are always two sides to a story, and it DOES matter if you are in a relationship and can talk down to people who are not, or if you are part of the folks which are not in a relationship and try like crazy to get into one only to see all their efforts crumble to dust. A rich man can lightly say that money does not really matter in life, while the poor man will certainly say the opposite. So don’t be so loving full of yourselves because you were lucky and others were not.

P-Mack posted:

Get swole, dress nice, don't be a weirdo.

P-Mack posted:

Get swole, dress nice, don't be a weirdo.

For some reason instead of saying that we tell kids to "just be yourself" which is only good advice for people who don't need advice.