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Dangersim posted:An my reaponse to that would be that the nate you saw in the mcgregor fight is the same nate you always get. He dought a shorter southpaw with good boxing literally 3 months before. Cool, yes, stylistically he looked much the same in both fights, but in the MJ fight he looked much sharper. Which was all I was saying, that with a full camp Nate is probably not going to be as slow and sloppy as he looked in the first round of the McGrego match. threeagainstfour fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Aug 17, 2016 |
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threeagainstfour posted:Cool, yes, stylistically he looked much the same in both fights, but in the MJ fight he looked much sharper. Which was all I was saying, that with a full camp Nate is probably not going to be as slow and sloppy as he looked in the first round of the McGregor. Good, I may not agree but i can respect that you give me an mma related answer instead of insults.
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He expended too much energy and got tired
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It irks me how many people think that when Conor said "I feel I was simply inefficient with my energy" he wasn't straight up admitting he gassed out e: not necessarily people in this thread recently
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Triticum Guzzler posted:[colemanly] FUUUUUCK. gently caress.
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manyak posted:He mostly fought at LW in Cage Warriors in the UK and was the LW champion there, won most of his fights by KO against his b-league opponents, and returned to FW when he was signed by the UFC Cool, thanks for that. I was just confused at the time because his wiki page makes special note of the lightweight bouts as if there were only a few scattered through his career and I couldn't find a simple chart with all of his fights and the weight class the bouts occurred at and I sincerely wanted Dangerism to share it with me if he knew of one heh.
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I agree generally with what manyak and Dangersim are saying about how Diaz looked like Diaz and there is not a whole lot in terms of skill or technique we should see differently out of him for this fight. But what's important to note is we don't really see Diaz rematches very often, do he's got a rhythm figured out before the fight even starts. So unless Conor really is lying when he says his only plan to do anything differently is have better cardio and be more patient with his strikes, then Diaz knows exactly what Conor is going to have for him and those changes McGregor promises to bring will either be insufficient (maybe an extra round or so of cardio won't do much vs Nate) or actually possibly detrimental (if he holds back to conserve energy to try and ride to a decision he is going to play into Diaz' strength and get beat up unless he has Condit level master footwork and distance control, and even that fell apart somewhat for Condit in the deep rounds.) So Diaz may just do what he's going to do and he may or may not start a little earlier but he's going to have an uncharacteristic edge for a Diaz bro in that he knows exactly what McGregor has to offer and he already knows what he can do to McGregor in return.
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threeagainstfour posted:Cool, thanks for that. I aplogize i must have missed it because i wasnt trying to ignore you. Ill be honest i dont even remember where I saw it.
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I think people get too caught up with the condit comparison, the real fight you should look at is the josh thompson fight. Nick and nate are not carbon copies of each other.
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Triticum Guzzler posted:hard work beats talent when talent refuses to leave iceland Speaking of that, the first day of my Icelandic vacation coincides with the fight. Where do I go to stalk Gunnar Nelson? Willie D, do you have any tips on how to approach?
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Dangersim posted:I think people get too caught up with the condit comparison, the real fight you should look at is the josh thompson fight. How good are Conor's bitch noises?
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Dangersim posted:I think people get too caught up with the condit comparison, the real fight you should look at is the josh thompson fight. Why am I not surprised, motherfucker, that you think that fight of all fights is the "real fight you should look at" instead of the actual fight they just fought?
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Dangersim posted:I think people get too caught up with the condit comparison, the real fight you should look at is the josh thompson fight. Well yeah but McGregor, Thomson and Condit are not all carbon copies of each other either, so no comparison will be 100% accurate. But I'd say the fight where Nate Diaz decisively finished Conor McGregor is ultimately more relevant to the rematch than the fight where Nate got KO'd by Thomson, and I'd say when McGregor's confessed strategy is to take it slow and last longer then the fight where Carlos Condit took it slow to decision Nate Diaz' stylistically similar brother is more relevant than a fight where Josh Thomson traded with Nate early and landed a KO halfway through the second.
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manyak posted:At this point i think everyone has just decided its funnier to try to make you mad than actually talk to you lol. Youll just have to wait until Conor wins, which is like a 50-55% shot, and even then it wont be that satisfying because everyone will just move on to the next thing like when he beat Aldo after years of everyone here claiming he never could I don't really see why you would have Conor as a favourite
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attackmole posted:Speaking of that, the first day of my Icelandic vacation coincides with the fight. Where do I go to stalk Gunnar Nelson? Willie D, do you have any tips on how to approach? According to instagram Gunni's toilet has an outlet for your phone beside it so he seems like a cool guy and you can probably go with a direct or plumbing approach.
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Ok thats not at all what im saying. People keep saying thqt conor should fight like condit did against nick. Im saying that he should look to the thompson/nate fight for answers.
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Then my question to you is what should Conor do to execute the Josh Thomson "be long and land a head kick ko" gameplan that wouldn't lead to basically the same ending McGregor/Diaz 1 instead?
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What about it? Josh Thompson repeatedly switches stances, doesn't throw for minutes on end, and doesnt fight like mcgregor in any way Has anyone else seen that fight? He caught nate because he kept bouncing between two stances and throwing kicks when nate did exasperated shoulder shrugs
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Conors key to victory is gently caress off back to featherweight
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Work Friend Keven posted:Most pressingly, why does anyone have to say how nates improved for the rematch of a fight he easily won via submission lol. Shameful.
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I really hope that Conor losses again and goes back to the attitude he had when he was a new prospect trying to make a name for himself. His poo poo talking game has been on loop for so long after he beat Mendes. He's STILL trying to act like he's some sort of unbeatable force and that only people who "win the lotto" can beat him. Plus the Diaz brothers have always been cool as hell and finally having both of them be around the same level of stardom is amazing and I never want this reality to end.
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Bluedeanie posted:Then my question to you is what should Conor do to execute the Josh Thomson "be long and land a head kick ko" gameplan that wouldn't lead to basically the same ending McGregor/Diaz 1 instead? vainman posted:What about it? Josh Thompson repeatedly switches stances, doesn't throw for minutes on end, and doesnt fight like mcgregor in any way He backed up and tried to catch nate coming in.
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Ugh this whole deal again Also I think conor is probably the favorite to win this time, too
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Dangersim posted:He backed up and tried to catch nate coming in. I guess so but he was like, really really patient and refused to get into any boxing exchanges. The few times they started punching he dived into the clinch like his life depended on it. I have a hard time imagining Conor fighting like that instead of just working on his boxing and googling popular insults for californians
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Triticum Guzzler posted:hey does any body have any idea what the gently caress this means How would the peds Jones got caught using suddenly become something different? Did Jesus wave his hand and turn estrogen blockers into protein powder?
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attackmole posted:Speaking of that, the first day of my Icelandic vacation coincides with the fight. Where do I go to stalk Gunnar Nelson? Willie D, do you have any tips on how to approach? Willie died and is now rummaging through the great JT trash bin in the sky
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NTRKouhai posted:I really hope that Conor losses again and goes back to the attitude he had when he was a new prospect trying to make a name for himself. His poo poo talking game has been on loop for so long after he beat Mendes. He's STILL trying to act like he's some sort of unbeatable force and that only people who "win the lotto" can beat him. I wouldn't say so - if anything I'd say his poo poo talk has been far more tempered as of late. This time prior to their first fight there were posts every day about who said what. They even had their own press conference.
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threeagainstfour posted:He had Jeremy Stephens on a few weeks ago and of all things for Rogan to suddenly get skeptical on he called out Alkaline water as bullshit when Stephens started talking about how drinks it all the time and has one of those Alkalizer machines at home. And now for a word from our sponsors, pills made from mushrooms we collect in the woods. They make your brain smarter. It totally works, guys. also lol: https://twitter.com/AliAbdelaziz00/status/765669545541459968 Good luck with that. red19fire fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Aug 17, 2016 |
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Dangersim posted:He backed up and tried to catch nate coming in. This may allow Conor to negate the reach advantage and land better punches. It could also leave him biting on feints and getting hosed up with jabs. It's a cool fight.
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red19fire posted:And now for a word from our sponsors, pills made from mushrooms we collect in the woods. They make your brain smarter. It totally works, guys. Ali Abdel Aziz is the dumbest gently caress
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Tezcatlipoca posted:This may allow Conor to negate the reach advantage and land better punches. It could also leave him biting on feints and getting hosed up with jabs. It's a cool fight. 
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lol looks like hes in the process of doing more dumb poo poo
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Dangersim posted:He backed up and tried to catch nate coming in. This is Conor's key to victory imo. Out pressuring a Diaz will not work, he's gotta hang back and let nate come to him. He used to fight like like this more--it's how he knocked out Aldo but didn't see as much during the Siver and Mendez fights as we had before then
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Sharzak posted:This is Conor's key to victory imo. Out pressuring a Diaz will not work, he's gotta hang back and let nate come to him. He used to fight like like this more--it's how he knocked out Aldo but didn't see as much during the Siver and Mendez fights as we had before then The counter lefts he landed when Nate over committed to his 1 2 and tried to step in on it were far and away the hardest shots he landed in the first fight. I think enough of those could put Nate out.
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threeagainstfour posted:Cool, thanks for that. Yeah, as far as I can tell the list of his lightweight opponents are: Gary Morris Mo Taylor Jo Duffy Hugh Brady Mike Wood (?) Aaron Jahnsen
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red19fire posted:And now for a word from our sponsors, pills made from mushrooms we collect in the woods. They make your brain smarter. It totally works, guys. who is this guy? like, what's his significance?
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Eat Bum Zen posted:who is this guy? like, what's his significance? Im glad someone asked because i didnt want to ask or look it up
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Eat Bum Zen posted:who is this guy? like, what's his significance? https://books.google.ca/books?id=MB...epage&q&f=false
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threeagainstfour posted:The counter lefts he landed when Nate over committed to his 1 2 and tried to step in on it were far and away the hardest shots he landed in the first fight. I think enough of those could put Nate out. Yeah. Part of me thinks Kavanaghs bulletproof 100% gameplan that he's been talking up so much is just to do this rather than set up that right uppercut like he was working so hard for in their first fight. I think committing hard to counterpunching and playing the patient game rather than believing your hands have literal magic powers can win Mcgregor this fight.
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Eat Bum Zen posted:who is this guy? like, what's his significance? mma manager, former WSOF executive, sleazeball, snitch
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