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i think getting rock and ground's resistances and weakness confused is a part of every trainer's journey
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sharrrk posted:i think getting rock and ground's resistances and weakness confused is a part of every trainer's journey The two should really have been combined into a single Earth type by now. greatn posted:What the gently caress is wrong with Kanto that it has so many more poison types than anywhere else? Dark didn't exist yet so they needed something to play the "bad guy" type. Geostomp fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Aug 25, 2016 |
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Aug 25, 2016 21:58
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Geostomp posted:The two should really have been combined into a single Earth type by now. agreed give every rock type stab earthquake and delete all rock moves
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Aug 25, 2016 22:05
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A lot of the gen I dual types are really unexpected from their designs honestly. Like why is bulbasaur part poison? Why is onix part ground? Why is every bird flying/normal? Fish are "normal" and they get pure water instead of water/normal. Don't even get me started on why Golduck isn't part psychic.
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Aug 25, 2016 22:07
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The only type chart poo poo I get hung up on is Fairy because all its interactions are dumb. Dark and Bug did not need another thing to resist them! I also always forget its super-effective against Fighting. 
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Aug 25, 2016 22:07
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dark definitely absolutely needed another thing to resist it and still needs more things to resist it
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Aug 25, 2016 22:12
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Zore posted:The only type chart poo poo I get hung up on is Fairy because all its interactions are dumb. Weak against poison makes sense, from Peter Pan
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Aug 25, 2016 22:12
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Zore posted:Dark [...] did not need another thing to resist them! hm
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Aug 25, 2016 22:20
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Zore posted:The only type chart poo poo I get hung up on is Fairy because all its interactions are dumb. Grass needs to be immune to it and it needs to be weak to Normal or Ice attacks.
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Aug 25, 2016 22:23
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If they had let Steel keep resisting it that would be 100% true. 3 is what almost every other type in existence has. Also Ghost has one thing that resists it now and one thing immune. Also poor bug has seven things that resist it.
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Aug 25, 2016 22:24
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Ground types live in the ground, Rock types are made out of rock. That's the difference.
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Aug 25, 2016 22:25
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Dexie posted:Ground types live in the ground, Rock types are made out of rock. That's the difference. Why are Flygon and Garchomp part ground
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Aug 25, 2016 22:26
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Dexie posted:Ground types live in the ground, Rock types are made out of rock. That's the difference. But Onix doesn't live in the ground
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Aug 25, 2016 22:26
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Dexie posted:Ground types live in the ground, Rock types are made out of rock. That's the difference. golurk is made out of rock and lives in the sky
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Aug 25, 2016 22:27
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Dragon needs more weaknesses to stop it being a the tryhard type.
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Aug 25, 2016 22:27
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cheetah7071 posted:Why are Flygon and Garchomp part ground Garchomp is a land shark
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Aug 25, 2016 22:27
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Geokinesis posted:Dragon needs more weaknesses to stop it being a the tryhard type. its less that dragon is overpowered as a type, and more that they made very powerful pokemon Dragon type
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Aug 25, 2016 22:29
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greatn posted:Garchomp is a land shark Rattatta is a land rat, why is it not normal/ground???
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Aug 25, 2016 22:29
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Ghost/Rock would actually be a pretty good offensive type for a fast pokemon so I'm sad there isn't one of those yet.
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Aug 25, 2016 22:29
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Dragons take loving forever to find normally though. Like I remember it took like 3/4 of RBY to even maybe start getting Dratinis
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Aug 25, 2016 22:37
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Internet Kraken posted:Ghost/Rock would actually be a pretty good offensive type for a fast pokemon so I'm sad there isn't one of those yet. Rock is a really rocking offensive typing in general. I just wish Stone Miss wasn't so inaccurate and that Power Gem was given to some of the pokemon who could actually loving use it.  Calaveron posted:Dragons take loving forever to find normally though. Like I remember it took like 3/4 of RBY to even maybe start getting Dratinis You could buy them at the game corner. And in general not being able to find Dragons is only a thing in Gen II/III. Gen IV let you get friggin Gible after the second gym, Axew is available really early in Gen V, and Gen VI is awash with good Dragons really early (Tyrunt, Gible are available after gym 1, most of the pseudos before gym 4 etc.) Zore fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Aug 25, 2016 |
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Aug 25, 2016 22:38
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cheetah7071 posted:Why are Flygon and Garchomp part ground Because Flygon evolves from something that lives in the ground and shhhh. greatn posted:But Onix doesn't live in the ground Most of his Pokedex entries talk about how he digs and burrows underground. oddium posted:golurk is made out of rock and lives in the sky He's made of clay. I didn't say the explanation was PERFECT. 
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Aug 25, 2016 22:41
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Internet Kraken posted:Ghost/Rock would actually be a pretty good offensive type for a fast pokemon so I'm sad there isn't one of those yet. Cofagrigus not being Ghost/Rock is a drat shame.
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Aug 25, 2016 22:42
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mabels big day posted:its less that dragon is overpowered as a type, and more that they made very powerful pokemon Dragon type Yeah dragon itself isn't that amazing of a type. There are plenty of mediocre dragon types now. In the old generations, dragon was reserved for grossly overpowered legendaries or the 600 stat pseudo-legendaries. Nobody is trembling in fear at Druddigon.
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Aug 25, 2016 22:45
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Dexie posted:Cofagrigus not being Ghost/Rock is a drat shame. Its not fast though? Rock would literally only make it worse because sudden weakness to Steel/Water/Ground isn't a really good trade off for no STAB beyond Hidden Power (It doesn't learn Power Gem and its attack is lol) and resistance to Fire/Flying with an upgrade to 4x Poison.
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Aug 25, 2016 22:45
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Dexie posted:Cofagrigus not being Ghost/Rock is a drat shame. The thing eats and is made of gold. It should have Ghost/Steel. Similarly, Sableye should have been Ghost/Rock.
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Aug 25, 2016 22:46
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Zore posted:Its not fast though? Trick Room exists. It's a stone sarcophagus with a ghost inside. Ghost/Rock would have made way more sense than pure Ghost. Hell, I would have even accepted Ghost/Ground. Geostomp posted:The thing eats and is made of gold. It should have Ghost/Steel. Or this.
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Aug 25, 2016 22:48
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Internet Kraken posted:Yeah dragon itself isn't that amazing of a type. There are plenty of mediocre dragon types now. In the old generations, dragon was reserved for grossly overpowered legendaries or the 600 stat pseudo-legendaries. Yeah, Dragon is reasonably well-balanced as a type in and of itself. It's just that the original design concept was to reserve the only typing that resists all the starter types for the most fearsome beasts in the land.
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Aug 25, 2016 22:49
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How do people handle gifted pokes in a Nuzlocke? I'm thinking specifically of the gen I starter you get in X/Y. I'm looking for a challenge, but it's also my first one and I'm already down to two dudes before the first gym battle.
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Aug 25, 2016 22:49
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Pure dragon is a pretty good defensive typing, and before fairies dragon was a good but not insane offensive type (rarely SE, but also rarely NVE). Defensively though all the good dragons get saddled with poo poo like flying or ground Where's my non-mega non-legendary fire/dragon who doesn't look like the world's spikiest turtle?
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Aug 25, 2016 22:49
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Russad posted:How do people handle gifted pokes in a Nuzlocke? I'm thinking specifically of the gen I starter you get in X/Y. I usually wonder trade it and then breed whatever I get with one of the dittos in my bank. Breeding wonderlockes is fun as hell and you can do it super early in X/Y. I usually wonderlocke if its a duplicate of something I've already caught too. Helps making run into that third bunnelby or zigzagoon kinda exciting instead of lovely.
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Aug 25, 2016 22:52
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Fairy being added to the game was good overall but ice has never been more horrible than it is now. With fairy types being immune to dragons AND hitting them super effectively, ice types lost their position as dragon slayers. The only thing it has going for it is that it hits a lot of dragon types for 4x damage due to them being dragon/flying or dragon/ground. That just means you carry ice moves on other pokemon though. Russad posted:How do people handle gifted pokes in a Nuzlocke? I'm thinking specifically of the gen I starter you get in X/Y. I just ignore them usually. For me the fun of Nuzlocke is using pokemon you didn't expect to use, which means ignoring ones that are always handed to you aside from the starter.
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Aug 25, 2016 22:53
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Russad posted:How do people handle gifted pokes in a Nuzlocke? I'm thinking specifically of the gen I starter you get in X/Y. It's up to you. You can count gift Pokemon as your "capture" in that town/area.
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Aug 25, 2016 22:55
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Internet Kraken posted:Fairy being added to the game was good overall but ice has never been more horrible than it is now. With fairy types being immune to dragons AND hitting them super effectively, ice types lost their position as dragon slayers. The only thing it has going for it is that it hits a lot of dragon types for 4x damage due to them being dragon/flying or dragon/ground. That just means you carry ice moves on other pokemon though. There's only ever been like 5 ice types worth using, and mostly because they had something almost wholly unique. Weavile, Mamoswine, Abomasnow (kinda), Froslass and Cloyster.
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Aug 25, 2016 22:57
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Kyurem White is also usable.
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Aug 25, 2016 23:00
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i wish aurorus was better, its so pretty. really great design basically worst type combo possible. rip they should have 'Ancient' versions of fossil pokemon, like the alola forms that lose the rock typing or swap it out for something else. have us stumble into some underground cavern where all these prehistoric pokemon never died off or whatever and catch them as they were instead of having to revive them
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Aug 25, 2016 23:02
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Ice type Pokemon were never really Dragon slayers though. Dragons usually had a fairly diverse movepool that could easily take down most of them. Dragon types feared Ice type moves since Pokemon that couldn't get taken down by them so easily could carry them. Ice didn't even resist Dragon type moves.
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Aug 25, 2016 23:03
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Starsnostars posted:Kyurem White is also usable. Legendaries don't count
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Aug 25, 2016 23:04
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cheetah7071 posted:Why are Flygon and Garchomp part ground flygon is the desert spirit and garchomp is a shark that swims underground instead of underwater
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Internet Kraken posted:Yeah dragon itself isn't that amazing of a type. There are plenty of mediocre dragon types now. In the old generations, dragon was reserved for grossly overpowered legendaries or the 600 stat pseudo-legendaries. the first dragon legend wasn't until gen 3, which is really weird but gamefreak gonna gamefreak i guess
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