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DID YOU KNOW somberero's extremely good case you could basically apply every single point he made on pmom to ME and it is all completely true YET he and ALSO EVERYONE ELSE thinks im town its almost like its a REALLY BAD CASE
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dongsbot 9000 posted:wait you think tremta is scum b/c hes saying pmom is scum No, just that he's posting more than like, 2 posts on day 1.
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Sep 19, 2016 15:27
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dongsbot 9000 posted:DID YOU KNOW somberero's extremely good case you could basically apply every single point he made on pmom to ME and it is all completely true YET he and ALSO EVERYONE ELSE thinks im town I no longer know what you think about anything in this game.
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Sep 19, 2016 15:28
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dongsbot 9000 posted:will we nl day 1??? probably Pinterest Mom posted:we could dunk kord or somber or kfc, im opinion dongsbot 9000 posted:i would love to lynch kfc dongsbot 9000 posted:ill just start it ##unvote ##vote kfc dongsbot 9000 posted:someone who's bad at mafia is gonna be like "but why dongsbot 9000 i dont get it" bruh im not in a teaching mood just follow my lead Pinterest Mom posted:let's do it Atomic Soda posted:kfc is my bud im not lynching him today. Atomic Soda posted:lets try again [b]##vote pmom Pinterest Mom posted:You explaining your reasoning would be helpful Tremendous Taste posted:Trying to bandwagon kfc is a nice reason on this very page i mean if we're just talkign about artifical posts look @ this 1 from tremta its not even following the stream of the conversation plus even if it was ITS NOT LIKE PMOM WAS EVEN DOING THAT i dont like to defend other ppl cuz ur never quite shore BUT tremta is a bully and a villain harrassing innocent? pmom and we should lynch and also murder him
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Sep 19, 2016 15:30
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compare pmom's response to UNDUE BULLYING D1 and max's response to EXTREME AND POWERFUL BULLYING and tell me that youre like "oh my god theres such a big difference i guess pmom is defintely scum im glad sombreroman made this really good case thats so good"
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Sep 19, 2016 15:31
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Max posted:I no longer know what you think about anything in this game. balance in all things
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Sep 19, 2016 15:33
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the case on pmom is literally "he voted sombrero man because sombrero man voted him"
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Sep 19, 2016 15:35
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pmom voted me then tremta voted me for some goofus reason and then i realclaimed d1 and voted pmom and sombreroman and tremta both "jokevoted" pmom and then pmom voted sombreroman back and then sombreroman said NICE OVERREACTION, SCUMBO and made it into a real case then kfc jumped onto pmom because he was convinced that sombreroman was right on his dumb case then grandicap comes on and says yeah nice overreaction and boom pmom is on 5 votes one day in WELL LETS TAKE AL OOK AT THIS OFFENDING POST Pinterest Mom posted:holy poo poo i know it's hard to get back into mafia after being away so long but you should wait a little while before outing yourself as scum yeah thats right pmoms "heinous overreaction" is that sombreroman overreacted to my post by voting pmom ANYWAY, WHOS THE TRUE VILLAIN IN ALL THIS? its TREMTA, OBVIOUSLY Tremendous Taste posted:
ahhhh the emoticon vote so powerful b/c you can just say "oh it was a joke dumpass" if it doesnt work out and just pivot to a different vote but once grandicap and kfc jumped on tremta is riding this pony to the bus station tremta is SCUM
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Sep 19, 2016 15:41
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The Lord of Hats posted:Pinterest being prickly about a jokevote is irrational. Grandicap posted:Trying to ride momentum... maybe? Esp if the initial PM read was not a jokevote, but was too embarassed to admit it? I think PM comes off as the worse party in the interaction. I don't like it. which doofus is ridnig momentum here: pmom who just turned around and put the first vote of somber after an omgus or grandicap, fifth voter on pmom??? (btw third voter was TREMTA and you know what they say about third voters)
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Sep 19, 2016 15:42
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OK ##vote Tremendous Taste
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Sep 19, 2016 15:45
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now to convince 4 more posters if youre here please come in so i can sway you
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Sep 19, 2016 15:46
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plus maybe pmom really is scum now you can pretend to be flipped by my powerful arguments and flip to tremta
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Sep 19, 2016 15:46
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Somber's case on me is dumb nonsense though? He's just pointing to posts I've made and saying "see he's scum"
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Sep 19, 2016 15:58
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Pinterest Mom posted:Somber's case on me is dumb nonsense though? He's just pointing to posts I've made and saying "see he's scum" PLEASE VOTE TREMTA so we can get some numbers on thsi motherfucker
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i wanna kill kord tho, who is 100% scum ##unvote ##vote kord
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i guess i'm going to have to take it point by point ugh. (quoting is hard so this'll be ugly dwi)quote:holy poo poo i know it's hard to get back into mafia after being away so long but you should wait a little while before outing yourself as scum Somberbrero posted:a nonsense reaction that pin doubled-down on over several pages, until eventually just refusing to acknowledge that this happened. quote:please retire from mafia quote:huge overreaction to being called emotional scum by taste quote:Idk what a case for myself means? I'm town and it's obvious and the votes on me are really bad, especially Somber, who doesn't seem to actually believe I'm scum, and KFC's, who very pointedly engaged in disingenuous questioning while voting me. quote:disingenuous questions that pin has never once addressed. this is like 50% omgus. Idk why Somber is saying I haven't addressed this. I have. KhyrosFinalCut posted:you seriously thought for a second that there was anything serious about his vote? Pinterest Mom posted:Why are you asking a question you know the answer to in an outraged tone? KhyrosFinalCut posted:Dramatic effect. Like, look at that sequence of posts. He's responding to me saying I think Somber is scum because of his initial post while asking me if that's the real reason I'm voting and suggesting alternative cases for Somber instead. That's what I mean by disingenuous - those are agenda pushing posts, not posts that are engaging with my content sincerely. quote:a lurker callout at a point where i have more posts than the vast majority of thread. completely dishonest. quote:The scummiest thing itt is still this turnaround you had in about an hour, where you go from "nah he's not scum come on" to "well I guess we just have to kill him because he's not going to be useful" and I'm not interested in voting anyone else because I'm already voting scum. quote:100% dodging the two first point here, literally shrugging them off. pin can't explain their previous position honestly because it doesn't make any sense. quote:Think about the powerful message it'd send to the thread if we held hands and voted kord together quote:obvious self-preservation, instead of trying to push the case on me he shifts to the next most convenient target. i'm the case he's pushed most of the day. quote:I'd take issue with "just" it's really more of a gradual thing, but yeah, it's not happening today and the exclusive focus on each other isn't good for the thread quote:they've been posting that i am scum consistently from page to page, and now it's 'unhealthy' to do that. quote:pin's positions are clearly inconsistent with the of natural perspective of town looking to lynch scum. the case on me is immediately transparent of pin trying to fake scumhunting, if they honestly believed their argument it would not be nearly so difficult for pin to explain it.
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Sep 19, 2016 16:17
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chic trombone is replaced by 100yrsofattitude hooray!
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Again, go read kord's post history starting with this post, his exclusive focus is on justifying a vote on me kordansk posted:Ah yes, PMom, the anyone but vote me defense. Just curious, where do you stand on Taste? but when I call him on it, he acts like i'm crazy for saying that he's going to vote me Pinterest Mom posted:Your vote is as good as on me already, and it's obviously going to shift there tomorrow. Your read of Taste is obviously fake, and your entire contribution today is just laying groundwork to try to justify your shift to me. kordansk posted:Tell me more about my future. My read on taste isn't fake. Trying to meta read someone is terrible and to try and use it as an excuse d1 is the epitome of post cruising to try and get a lynch without regrets. it's garbage, and it's scum.
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Sep 19, 2016 16:28
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I'd vote kord as well (for real this time.)
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Sep 19, 2016 16:30
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KhyrosFinalCut posted:I phrased it dramatically cause that's what you do in this game, and yeah, I have an opinion about you --- So I'm sorry if you felt unduly antagonized in a game of mafia, but I would in fact welcome a serious answer. I was being aggressive but I was also sincerely engaging with your content. you could have said "I'm saying he 70% agrees because of x" you weren't giving us any color, no one thinks it's even vaguely reasonable that you thought somber's post was anything other than a follow on to dongs' joke, so if that's all you had, then your case is rear end and doesn't deserve to be listened to. You could have given us anything else and then said "I'm not going to fake content for you" --- what the gently caress are we supposed to do with that?
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Sep 19, 2016 16:39
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is that a rhetorical question
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##unvote Pinterest's casing of Kord has me feeling less confident on him as scum--for now, at least. Going to have to look over the Kord and Tremta cases now.
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Sep 19, 2016 16:42
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Pinterest Mom posted:is that a rhetorical question  Sure, but If you have a substantive answer, I'll listen to it.
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KhyrosFinalCut posted:
 I don't think "didn't do the greatest job of articulating a case" is something you should be holding against me
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But I will note that a good part of Somber's case on me, that you apparently agree with, is because I did exactly thisKhyrosFinalCut posted:Like right now. Like exactly this. You're mocking the attacks on you with low effort poo poo. How about instead of mocking us, you either a) look for scum elsewhere since your somber case isn't going anywhere right now, or b) make your case on him better.
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Max posted:In all of your interactions, why do you talk to pmom with the assumption that they are town? Or is it just that your read on Taste is stronger? This - read my posts about taste.
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Pinterest Mom posted:But I will note that a good part of Somber's case on me, that you apparently agree with, is because I did exactly this Can you clarify what you're saying here?
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Max posted:I'd vote kord as well (for real this time.) Wait, if tremta is scum to you, how is me on tremta make us both scum. It serves no purpose.
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Having not been involved in this whole tiff the thing that most concerns me is that Pmom has been the steady vote leader the day through, but we haven't killed him yet. This means a few things to me: 1) Town is not that convinced that he's scum. Why is this? Obviously there's no real concrete evidence on D1, but I'm surprised that even his accusers aren't necessarily going all out to convince people to vote him. Sure Taste has just been repeating his mantra, and while Somber laid out his case it seemed to be written in response to Pmom more than anything else. I don't feel there has been a lot players trying to do the groundwork necessary to get people to move to their cause. This is either because they don't believe in it themselves, but I just think it's because we're all inherently lazy. 2) This brings me to my second point. That we're lazy and apathetic. Were Pmom actually scum, there would've been stronger opposition. Someone would've been optioned up, there'd be little benefit in getting a bus in this early in the game and I think scum are content just letting town eat their own (because they could just save him on D1, bus on D2, and gain a day for their trouble). I feel pretty ok about our more vocal players, no one seems to be trying to control the narrative in any specific way so I think scum are just letting things play out on this D1. So no I'm not comfortable voting Pmom. The only player who I read as scum without a shadow of a doubt was kordansk. So ##vote kordansk. I gotta work for a couple of hours but I'll be back for a while before going to bed and missing deadline.
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KhyrosFinalCut posted:Can you clarify what you're saying here? In that post, you're challenging me to look for scum elsewhere and find more compelling reasons to vote Somber. In the Somber case you approvingly cite as the reason you're still voting me, Somber's last three points are: Somberbrero posted:100% dodging the two first point here, literally shrugging them off. pin can't explain their previous position honestly because it doesn't make any sense. Somberbrero posted:obvious self-preservation, instead of trying to push the case on me he shifts to the next most convenient target. i'm the case he's pushed most of the day. Somberbrero posted:they've been posting that i am scum consistently from page to page, and now it's 'unhealthy' to do that.
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Pinterest Mom posted:Again, go read kord's post history you realize that I have been pushing for tremta all day - even though we have been talking to each other. you keep going on and on about me, and yet you are just basically ignoring the point that im trying to shift the vote off of you by pushing tremta. I don't even.... I only want to vote you at this point to either prevent a NL or just because you are being obtuse.
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100YrsofAttitude posted:Having not been involved in this whole tiff the thing that most concerns me is that Pmom has been the steady vote leader the day through, but we haven't killed him yet.
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kordansk posted:Wait, if tremta is scum to you, how is me on tremta make us both scum. It serves no purpose. Bussing is actually a thing that exists. By that logic, do you think Pmom and Tremta are scum together? Because you are certainly suspicious of both. I'm not saying you are both scum, just enough to warrant a vote.
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Max posted:Bussing is actually a thing that exists. By that logic, do you think Pmom and Tremta are scum together? Because you are certainly suspicious of both. Your logic doesn't make sense, even with coming up with some sort of bus idea. Tremta has basically no traction still, so what good does it do to bus him if I am scum. I can pile on to pmom if we were both scum without it looking suspicious, yet I am not - so basically the opposite of bussing there. I think it's less likely pmom is scum mostly because of the apathy votes on them. scum seems content to let play out that way.
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kordansk posted:This - read my posts about taste. Your taste posts amount to "Meta votes=bad" and a post in which you mostly quote him making low effort posts on Pinterest (which *is* the case, I won't deny that). Not exactly a strong record to point to there compared to your hedging on Pinterest. That being said, I'm also not that happy with Taste--even aside from the "Hey guys, check out this chain lynch opportunity--I was being sarcastic (not that sarcastic)" on me, it's content-free anti-Pinterest posts.
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kordansk posted:Wait what? We've had some chatty players but no one has really been super pushy about their ideas. Most everyone is keeping to themselves and only answering things when directly prodded. A more vocal player would be trying to encourage people to follow their leads to get something done. Like I said no one has been trying to persuade others to after Pmom outside of half hearted, "vote pmom/pmom's scum" it doesn't feel particularly convincing. Also, since no one is trying in particular to save Pmom I find it hard to believe there's a scum team at his back. I'll put my case on you together now that I've a bit of time. I just wanted to get my vote in.
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The Lord of Hats posted:Your taste posts amount to "Meta votes=bad" and a post in which you mostly quote him making low effort posts on Pinterest (which *is* the case, I won't deny that). Not exactly a strong record to point to there compared to your hedging on Pinterest. So wait, you agree with my assessment, yet would rather push a vote on me. Is this babbys first mafia?
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kordansk posted:Your logic doesn't make sense, even with coming up with some sort of bus idea. Tremta has basically no traction still, so what good does it do to bus him if I am scum. I can pile on to pmom if we were both scum without it looking suspicious, yet I am not - so basically the opposite of bussing there. I think it's less likely pmom is scum mostly because of the apathy votes on them. scum seems content to let play out that way. Jump on scumbuddy early in Day 1 so you have the chance to point at that later in the event Tremta eventually flips, if you are both scum. I've done that before as scum, I know it's a thing that can happen. And yes, you could pile on Pmom unless you want to spread out your votes or if you know pmom is going to flip town and so don't want to look bad when that lunch inevitably happens. These are all reasonable things to look out for.
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