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Squalid posted:Wikipedia list Yemen as having had 15 Hwasong-5 back in 2005, plus several ballistic missile platforms. The Houthi inherited most of the equipment of the Yemeni army but it's hard to say for sure what's still operational. In any case they might not want to do something like close the Red Sea since Northern Yemen still receives some basic supplies like oil through Red Sea ports. Part of the recent banking crisis has heen precipitated by a collapse in foreign reserves, which culminated in several tankers getting stuck in the port of Hodeida during a payment dispute. I wonder if this might pull in the involvement of the US Navy? If there's one thing to set it off it would be threatening international commerce.
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We should probably just give them a week to ditch it and then sink it with ship to ship missiles. It's essential a pirated vessel now so I think the US has an obligation to recapture or destroy it. Especially if they take it on the high seas.
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was that steam game some pro-regime bullshit? I can't tell.
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Bip Roberts posted:I wonder if this might pull in the involvement of the US Navy? If there's one thing to set it off it would be threatening international commerce. I hope not. We're already far too involved in Saudi Arabia's catastrophic sectarian war. Ideally the Houthis won't be stupid enough to do anything to force a massive escalation. Even Iran realizes that the threat that they could shut down commerce is more effective than actually doing it, because the US would annihilate anyone who did it.
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anyone post this yet https://www.facebook.com/www.syriatourism.org/videos/630426693784652/ finally a chance to find out what wildfire feels like I feel bad but I'm kind of digging the Middle Eastern GoT remix though
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Punkin Spunkin posted:was that steam game some pro-regime bullshit? I can't tell. Well you play the game from the regime's perspective while fighting against IS. Though weather thats ISIS or "ISIS" I cant tell. But to answer your question probably yes.
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Bip Roberts posted:I wonder if this might pull in the involvement of the US Navy? If there's one thing to set it off it would be threatening international commerce. The Houthi by all appearances seem to have been pretty selective, as far as I know the only commercial ships they've targeted were those entering Aden or other ports under the Hadi administration. The Navy has been very careful to keep its involvement at a distance but you still hear about the occasional US interdiction of an unmarked dhow carying thousands of AKs semi-frequently, but that's the kind of thing the US navy is always doing in the Persian Gulf and Gulf of Aden. I remember there was almost a major confrontation with an Iranian convoy back when the blockade was first initiated, with the Iranians quickly backing off in the face of an American force. This article: http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/gulf-coalition-operations-in-yemen-part-3-maritime-and-aerial-blockade Reports that there have been at least 10 recorded missile attacks on blockading ships in the present conflict, probably with C-802s, but that none of them were ever confirmed.
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Ikasuhito posted:Well you play the game from the regime's perspective while fighting against IS. Though weather thats ISIS or "ISIS" I cant tell. Unless the game models you picking up random Sunnis at checkpoints and locking them in a dungeon and torturing them to death with knives and stamping a number on their corpse to be photographed before its tossed into a mass grave, it's not a very accurate Syrian Civil War Simulator.
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54.4 crowns posted:Yeah, thank you for your lesson in orientalism. You're welcome.
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I just https://twitter.com/Hayder_alKhoei/status/781623233040805888 what https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/blog/2016/9/30/iraq-mp-ancient-sumerians-travelled-space-and-discovered-pluto is this why GWB invaded Iraq and then immediately announced the retirement of the space shuttles??
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Are those stuck in East Aleppo mostly rebels at this point? If not, why have the rebels not surrendered? Its obvious they are done, are they just waiting to take as many civilians with them as possible?
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Please forgive me for my dumb post but could someone give me a summary of what the fucks been going on over the last month or so? I've been devoted solely to following US politics since mid August that I haven't bothered to really keep up with this thread. Last time I was up to date things seemed to be going well in Syria with the SDF finishing the capture of Manbij. Turkey began their pseudo operation but seemed to just be sitting around with their thumbs up their asses not actually moving. What happened since then to cause basically everything to go to hell? Is ISIS doing poo poo or is it the regime loving up everything? Is it Turkey? And are the SDF in trouble now?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Please forgive me for my dumb post but could someone give me a summary of what the fucks been going on over the last month or so? I've been devoted solely to following US politics since mid August that I haven't bothered to really keep up with this thread. Last time I was up to date things seemed to be going well in Syria with the SDF finishing the capture of Manbij. Turkey began their pseudo operation but seemed to just be sitting around with their thumbs up their asses not actually moving. What happened since then to cause basically everything to go to hell? Is ISIS doing poo poo or is it the regime loving up everything? Is it Turkey? And are the SDF in trouble now? The Turks want to push all the way to Al Bab but their FSA proxies are not well organized or effective so theyre having trouble, in addition, most FSA that could be helping are worried more about Aleppo than Al Bab right now anyways for good reasons Meanwhile, the SDF are preparing their own operation to take Al Bab but without YPG/J troops, which form the bulk of the SDF. For their part, large numbers of YPG/J militants have entered Iraq and are staging for the attack on Mosul.
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pro starcraft loser posted:Are those stuck in East Aleppo mostly rebels at this point? If not, why have the rebels not surrendered? Its obvious they are done, are they just waiting to take as many civilians with them as possible? You should ask all the other rebels that surrendered into the merciful arms of Assad what happened to them. Weird, I can't seem to locate any.
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For all queries regarding surrender of rebels in the Aleppo pocket, please direct your questions to the adult male population of the areas of Hama that the Syrian government was able to retake. I'm sure they'll be more than happy to answer. *makes sweeping gesture to recently filled-in earthen trench*
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pro starcraft loser posted:Are those stuck in East Aleppo mostly rebels at this point? If not, why have the rebels not surrendered? Its obvious they are done, are they just waiting to take as many civilians with them as possible? Well if SA forums poster pro starcraft loser says they're done then I guess the Aleppo rebels really have no option but to surrender. I'm sure they won't mind being tortured and then murdered.
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OctaMurk posted:The Turks want to push all the way to Al Bab but their FSA proxies are not well organized or effective so theyre having trouble, in addition, most FSA that could be helping are worried more about Aleppo than Al Bab right now anyways for good reasons https://twitter.com/huseyinbozan/status/782869403918540800 quote:Nureddin Zengi Hareketi #Halep kuşatmasını kırmak için #FıratKalkanı harekatına katılan birliklerini #Halep cephesine çekme kararı aldı. Nureddin Zengi aka Nour al-Din al-Zenki is pulling all its fighters from operation Euphrates Shield and redeploying them to Aleppo city, as part of a planned rebel offensive to break the siege on Aleppo city. Probably a good idea for the rebels, cuz it's not like the guys in Euphrates Shield are doing anything big right now. Speaking of Aleppo, here's a gif of the changes in Aleppo's frontline from 15 September 2015 till 14 September 2016:  I got it from here, not sure what the original source is: https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/55mtg8/changes_in_aleppo_frontline_from_15_september/
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Why is the fertile crescent no longer fertile anyways?
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Punkin Spunkin posted:was that steam game some pro-regime bullshit? I can't tell. The game that had an image of russian soldiers providing aid to civilians instead of blowing up civilians proving aid? Can't be.
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Grouchio posted:Why is the fertile crescent no longer fertile anyways? Thousands of years of intense cultivation and changing climates.
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fishmech posted:Thousands of years of intense cultivation and changing climates. Yep. And deforestation. Same for Greece and Southern Spain and North Africa.
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fishmech posted:Thousands of years of intense cultivation and changing climates. There's also been some suggestion that the Siege of Baghdad by the Mongols destroyed the irrigation infrastructure and it was never repaired or rebuilt. Overall, the Fertile Crescent has gone through a ton of poo poo in the past 1000 years that's turned it into a useless desert.
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Rincewinds posted:The game that had an image of russian soldiers providing aid to civilians instead of blowing up civilians proving aid? Can't be. Yeah I reported the game to Steam and I'd suggest you all do the same.
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Grouchio posted:Why is the fertile crescent no longer fertile anyways? And literally salting their own land by using ocean water for crops.
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chitoryu12 posted:There's also been some suggestion that the Siege of Baghdad by the Mongols destroyed the irrigation infrastructure and it was never repaired or rebuilt. Overall, the Fertile Crescent has gone through a ton of poo poo in the past 1000 years that's turned it into a useless desert. That sort of thing has happened a lot of times, destroying the irrigation infrastructure I mean. Even if you were to build it back up with modern irrigation techniques though it still wouldn't be as great as it was back then, let alone as it was in 1 AD or 1000 BC or 2000 BC.
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Rincewinds posted:The game that had an image of russian soldiers providing aid to civilians instead of blowing up civilians proving aid? Can't be. Has Russia provided humanitarian aid? I assume it wouldn't be to rebel-held areas.
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suboptimal posted:Yeah I reported the game to Steam and I'd suggest you all do the same. What's the Report this Product category that you picked? I have a pretty good reason written down for reporting it but I'm having a hard time picking one of the categories.
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Count Roland posted:Has Russia provided humanitarian aid? I assume it wouldn't be to rebel-held areas. Do you know how the Molotov Cocktail got its name?
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https://twitter.com/Lina_J_Al/status/783003933170143233 Probably just words. We'll be "negotiating a ceasefire" in two weeks.
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fade5 posted:On that note: Zenki denies it: https://twitter.com/abdulslam_abd/status/782916582964129792
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Grouchio posted:Why is the fertile crescent no longer fertile anyways? As others have said climate change, but part of the fertile crescents reputation is from being the first(?) to develop widespread agriculture and the organized societys that coincided with it, the land wasn't necessarily more fertile than the rest of the Mediterranean/Europe
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Speaking of North Allepo, reports of this. https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/782980300104237056 Also because I didnt see anyone else mention it. https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/782925899511566336 Ikasuhito fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Oct 3, 2016 |
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https://twitter.com/margbrennan/status/783008595705233408
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RZApublican posted:What's the Report this Product category that you picked? I have a pretty good reason written down for reporting it but I'm having a hard time picking one of the categories. I just labeled it as offensive content and said that it was vulgar to market a current conflict where there has been deliberate targeting of civilians as the basis for entertainment. Also seriously gently caress all the Russian/SAA fanboys posting in the discussion section of that "game."
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That just sounds like some some major work needs to be done on the main pipes out of the country. They're doing it for a fairly narrow set of hours during low use and for a week.
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I guess maybe it is less malicious than some people might think. Looks slightly planned around a maintenance scenario, at least:
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chitoryu12 posted:There's also been some suggestion that the Siege of Baghdad by the Mongols destroyed the irrigation infrastructure and it was never repaired or rebuilt. Overall, the Fertile Crescent has gone through a ton of poo poo in the past 1000 years that's turned it into a useless desert. The siege of Baghdad was not the destroy the world kind of thing it's historically thought to be. Archeological sources show Baghdad had long been on the decline (for among other things the aforementioned environmental reasons) before the conquest. The qanat system was far less destructible than the aqueduct system, so while I'm sure they disrupted things, it was more that it sped up the transition rather than made it.
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I've been taking a poo poo-ton amount of notes in Middle Eastern Politics lately, currently centered around the rise of Baathism and the failures of Pan-Arabism: Source: The Arab Cold War by Malcolm Kerr (via PDF) quote:(THE SYRIAN BAATHISTS AND COMMUNISTS)
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