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Birthday party for his dog while Phil Collins music plays in the background?
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The Thai monarchy is almost entirely powerless, right? So why does this matter?
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Oct 13, 2016 16:49
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:The Thai monarchy is almost entirely powerless, right? So why does this matter? it is not almost entirely powerless, it is the most important part of thai politics. almost everything revolves around it.
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Oct 13, 2016 17:07
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Uh oh. Farang better start keeping one bag packed and waiting by the door.
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Oct 13, 2016 17:09
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:The Thai monarchy is almost entirely powerless, right? So why does this matter? It's my understanding that part of the controversy regarding the late King's infirmity was that the government was issuing decrees and proclamations that were ostensibly signed by him at a time when he'd have been far too sick and/or senile to know what was going on.
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Oct 13, 2016 17:12
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This matters because the junta has reinforced and promulgated the King as semi-god, and has inculcated public worship a la Stalin or Mao or pre-WWII Hirohito. The King has made a great figurehead for the juntas. The problem is that his son and heir is widely disliked, and transferring that worship and authority to the son will be difficult. Without a mythical and admired king, the junta has a PR problem. The only alternative is the King's unmarried daughter, who is respected, but the constitution forbids female succession.
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Oct 13, 2016 17:41
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Man all these dying monarchies should know better to allow female succession. Japan too.
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Oct 13, 2016 17:54
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They actually amended the constitution all the way back in 74 to allow female succession. Legally though it goes to the first born, the much beloved HRH Crown Prince.
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Oct 13, 2016 17:57
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:They actually amended the constitution all the way back in 74 to allow female succession. Legally though it goes to the first born, the much beloved HRH Crown Prince. Aha! Thanks for the correction. e: Huh. The chair of the junta announces that the Crown Prince says he isn't ready to take the throne yet. quote:“He already accepted his appointment as a royal heir, but he requested time to deal with his grief and express his sadness alongside the people across the nation at this time,” Gen. Prayuth said at 9.40pm after a joint meeting between the government and the legislature. “As for the … succession, he wishes to wait until the appropriate time.” Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Oct 13, 2016 |
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Oct 13, 2016 18:24
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Aha! Thanks for the correction.  God, to be a fly on the wall.
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Oct 13, 2016 21:25
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a game of thrones if you will
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Oct 13, 2016 21:33
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yeah RIP
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Oct 14, 2016 00:58
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Aha! Thanks for the correction. So will they get the Prince assassinated or to secede?
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Oct 14, 2016 01:01
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Arsenic Lupin posted:This matters because the junta has reinforced and promulgated the King as semi-god, and has inculcated public worship a la Stalin or Mao or pre-WWII Hirohito. The King has made a great figurehead for the juntas. The problem is that his son and heir is widely disliked, and transferring that worship and authority to the son will be difficult. Without a mythical and admired king, the junta has a PR problem. The only alternative is the King's unmarried daughter, who is respected, but the constitution forbids female succession. I just flew out of Bangkok last night/this morning after two weeks around the country and obviously there are a ton of pictures of the king but it was really striking how many pictures of the crown princess there were vs. me only ever seeing one picture of the crown prince the entire time I was there.
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Oct 14, 2016 01:27
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The Saddest Rhino posted:So will they get the Prince assassinated or to secede? "After much consideration, I have decided I need to retire from public life to spend more time with my poodle and my wife, in that order." Edit: Adun, see if you ever get invited back now 
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Oct 14, 2016 01:33
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Stay safe crazy prince. Or maybe a state funeral is cheaper than keeping him alive.
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Oct 14, 2016 02:14
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Aha! Thanks for the correction. The Crown Prince would like some time to get himself together and for the military to get their armoured vehicles and tear gas launchers in place.
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Oct 14, 2016 02:18
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so um one year of mourning seems a little excessive even for the world's longest reigning monarch
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Oct 14, 2016 02:18
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The Saddest Rhino posted:so um one year of mourning seems a little excessive even for the world's longest reigning monarch Welcome to the lèse majesté blacklist, fucker
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Oct 14, 2016 02:57
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The Saddest Rhino posted:so um one year of mourning seems a little excessive even for the world's longest reigning monarch I'm no expert but I think it's this Pirate Radar posted:They don't need to leave now. None of the factions would disrespect the King's memory by starting poo poo this soon. Basically the junta have bought themselves a year of time to either think of a solution or make the crown prince dude popular enough that he can hold it all together.
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Oct 14, 2016 03:28
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http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2016/10/14/note-readers-removal-article-royal-succession/quote:Khaosod English has removed an October 14 article about a procedure at the royal succession following King Bhumibol’s death per instruction from Khaosod’s editorial management, who feared that content in the article might lead to possible legal action. all articles that mentioned Prem becoming royal regent im surprised some people arent leaving the country
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Oct 14, 2016 15:54
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2016/10/14/note-readers-removal-article-royal-succession/ What's the implication here? Foul play? Are you really expecting a power struggle at the upper echelons (if there is one) to have great immediate effects on the day-to-day life of ordinary people? In my experience, most Thais' understanding of the fraught politics and dark history of the country is extremely cursory at best. edit: Oh, maybe I misinterpreted "some people." itstime4lunch fucked around with this message at 07:21 on Oct 15, 2016 |
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Oct 15, 2016 07:15
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itstime4lunch posted:What's the implication here? Foul play? Are you really expecting a power struggle at the upper echelons (if there is one) to have a great immediate effects on the day-to-day life of ordinary people?
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Oct 15, 2016 07:21
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Well, the whole "my faction is losing, so let's have riots to demonstrate my power" thing tends to affect everybody. Depends on where you live. Surveys have shown that only about 15-20% identify with either the red shirts or the yellow shirts. Everyone else just seems to go with the flow. Sure, they'll talk, but they won't get involved on a personal level.
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Oct 15, 2016 07:22
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It's been pretty calm, really. I mean attitudes are a bit subdued and some people are grieving very publicly, but besides tons of street vendors selling every black clothing item they can find and the country becoming a UX nightmare overnight it's very calm. I've been watching some of the old English language interviews with the King. It's funny, I hadn't appreciated how quick, but calm and erudite he was until I sat and watched those. You can't coach that kind of thinking I don't think. Like he didn't joust and spar, he made very interesting and clever points when questions and pushed by Western reporters. Reminds me a bit of the late King Hussein of Jordan. In any case, the end of Buddhist Lent is tomorrow and it seems like they started the alkeehal ban a night early at midnight last night, but I can't tell for sure. Otherwise, most things are open, people are working, it's not a joyous time, but among my Thai friends and colleagues most of them seem to share the attitude that I think most humans would share, which is that he had been sick for a long time, this was expected and he's no longer suffering. I doubt anything nutty will happen until December 5th at the earliest, if even then, but there are at least two loose cannons involved in this business, one of whom has a history of erratic behavior when things don't go his way. We'll see, I guess. FortMan knows more than the rest of us about this kind of thing.
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Oct 15, 2016 12:15
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itstime4lunch posted:What's the implication here? Foul play? Are you really expecting a power struggle at the upper echelons (if there is one) to have great immediate effects on the day-to-day life of ordinary people? In my experience, most Thais' understanding of the fraught politics and dark history of the country is extremely cursory at best. I was talking about certain elites who have largely worked against the heir taking over booking it, not normal people. That said, it seems they have restored the articles about Prem being regent, so who knows whats going on. I agree that nothing public will probably happen for a couple of months at least, though there might be echoes of the behind the scenes power struggle. Markets seem to believe this as well.
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Oct 15, 2016 12:29
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My fav thing is looking at comments on international news sites reporting on the King's death and the potential issues, it's just full of locals and even white people going full duterte supporter mode and yelling at the BBC or CNN for daring to say bad things during a time of mourning (for a year). There was even a BBC article stating "the death of the King has left a hole in..." and people were going ballistic saying "no the King did not leave how dare you he will always be alive in our hearts how far the BBC has fallen"
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Oct 15, 2016 12:31
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The Saddest Rhino posted:My fav thing is looking at comments on international news sites reporting on the King's death and the potential issues, it's just full of locals and even white people going full duterte supporter mode and yelling at the BBC or CNN for daring to say bad things during a time of mourning (for a year). There was even a BBC article stating "the death of the King has left a hole in..." and people were going ballistic saying "no the King did not leave how dare you he will always be alive in our hearts how far the BBC has fallen" On a BBC article advising tourists to wear muted colors: quote:Government cannot tell people to wear black. Shame on BBC News to post this propaganda against Thailand and it's people in mourning of their great leader. Shame on you. How dare the BBC advise people to be respectful, have they no respect??
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Oct 15, 2016 13:22
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:On a BBC article advising tourists to wear muted colors:
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ReindeerF posted:I doubt anything nutty will happen until December 5th at the earliest, if even then, but there are at least two loose cannons involved in this business, one of whom has a history of erratic behavior when things don't go his way. We'll see, I guess. FortMan knows more than the rest of us about this kind of thing. Sadly not. Rumors are all I have. With all the censorship in this topics, rumors are all most people have too. Hopefully he has some good sense that the people love his father wasn't for his station, but his person. Well, I'm entitled to a little delusion is this kind of time, right?
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Oct 15, 2016 19:33
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eviljelly posted:Welcome to the lèse majesté blacklist, fucker Hey, at least he's not John Oliver, who will be black-bagged and fed to the pending-monarch's adorable dog for its next birthday party. 
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Oct 15, 2016 20:38
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Hey, at least he's not John Oliver, who will be black-bagged and fed to the pending-monarch's adorable dog for its next birthday party.
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Oct 15, 2016 20:49
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The Saddest Rhino posted:My fav thing is looking at comments on international news sites reporting on the King's death and the potential issues, it's just full of locals and even white people going full duterte supporter mode and yelling at the BBC or CNN for daring to say bad things during a time of mourning (for a year). There was even a BBC article stating "the death of the King has left a hole in..." and people were going ballistic saying "no the King did not leave how dare you he will always be alive in our hearts how far the BBC has fallen" FortMan posted:Sadly not. Rumors are all I have. With all the censorship in this topics, rumors are all most people have too. Hopefully he has some good sense that the people love his father wasn't for his station, but his person. Well, I'm entitled to a little delusion is this kind of time, right? Related to my previous comment, this is just an edited version of one of the documentaries with English language interviews and it's full of MYSTIC ORIENT fluff, but if you jump just to his interviews, which are interspersed, it's interesting to see how his mind works and what he seems to value. Also kind of draws a sharp contrast with his wife and how her mind works when she speaks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6oSnFtDsC4
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Oct 16, 2016 05:57
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What are the bad practices? And bad rumors?
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Oct 16, 2016 06:09
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caberham posted:What are the bad practices? And bad rumors? I'd tell you but it might be lese majeste
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Oct 16, 2016 06:43
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Badger of Basra posted:I'd tell you but it might be lese majeste Well technically there is no majeste to lese right now if he hasn't taken the throne right?
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Oct 17, 2016 06:56
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Oracle posted:Well technically there is no majeste to lese right now if he hasn't taken the throne right?
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Oct 17, 2016 16:55
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At least one person is in jail for the next 15 years because they said it was "ridiculous" to interpret the law as covering the king's dog.
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