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SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

Krinkle posted:

In the beta I got murdered by k-bullets, when I was a passenger in a vehicle, and I swear the vehicle itself didn't die. Is there not a way to snipe people out of tanks with k-bullets? Or was I just wrong and the vehicle did explode and I remembered wrong? I've been aiming at window slots for no reason, i'm afraid.

I've slashed dude to death with the saber in the open top scout cars. Your just really unprotected in those things, gotta go fast.

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Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



I'm so glad DICE finally figured out how to do attack/defend maps right. Operations are SOOOO good. Even if you're on an idiot attacking team you're more or less guaranteed to make progress (you better take the first sector when you get a free zepellin) so no matter what you're not just camped in spawn by the defenders. And the objectives being capture points instead of magical MCOM terminals means the defenders aren't allowed to just camp one point or the other. Sure you probably won't win one map with most pubby teams, and good loving luck winning both, but you'll at least make enough progress to have fun.

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


SeanBeansShako posted:

I've slashed dude to death with the saber in the open top scout cars. Your just really unprotected in those things, gotta go fast.

No I mean, i was in a heavy tank or one of the rotating turret light tanks, completely surrounded by metal, and a k-bullet killed me, the gunner, and not the vehicle, I think, can that happen or did I remember it wrong?

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

Krinkle posted:

No I mean, i was in a heavy tank or one of the rotating turret light tanks, completely surrounded by metal, and a k-bullet killed me, the gunner, and not the vehicle, I think, can that happen or did I remember it wrong?

Yeah they can do that. K-Bullets are great for disabling and shooting certain points of vehicles.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Alkydere posted:

I'm so glad DICE finally figured out how to do attack/defend maps right. Operations are SOOOO good. Even if you're on an idiot attacking team you're more or less guaranteed to make progress (you better take the first sector when you get a free zepellin) so no matter what you're not just camped in spawn by the defenders. And the objectives being capture points instead of magical MCOM terminals means the defenders aren't allowed to just camp one point or the other. Sure you probably won't win one map with most pubby teams, and good loving luck winning both, but you'll at least make enough progress to have fun.

Yeah, I think there's certain fun and useful utility to being able to arm/disarm MCOM as you can sneak around flanks and then arm it and run away causing their front line to collapse back to the MCOM allowig your team to push their poo poo in, but it would honestly be a nightmare in 40/64 players as you could just infinite mortar it once it's armed, or even visa versa. So I think the capture method is probably for the best and fits the player/maps well.

Really my only issue with Operations is that you effectively only have 4 maps (and really just 3 because gently caress Mount Grappa) because the second maps are so rarely gotten to and then it's pretty janky once you do get to a second map. They should have just went with one map, they're long enough as it is. I wish I could play Amiens and stuff way more :( I'm getting a little tired playing nothing but Fao, Ballroom, and Kaiserschlacht ad nausea

Sef!
Oct 31, 2012
Just snagged the BAR Storm. Didn't realize that laser guns were around in World War I.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Xaris posted:

Really my only issue with Operations is that you effectively only have 4 maps (and really just 3 because gently caress Mount Grappa) because the second maps are so rarely gotten to and then it's pretty janky once you do get to a second map. They should have just went with one map, they're long enough as it is. I wish I could play Amiens and stuff way more :( I'm getting a little tired playing nothing but Fao, Ballroom, and Kaiserschlacht ad nausea

I haven't played enough to get to this point but I can totally see your issue. Would be nice if they dropped the super-fancy voice-over and videos and just had them in reverse mode (or scrambled with the 3-map one). But, well, DICE really wants us to tell us a story about WWI when everyone just wants to shoot mans (or me: giggle as I throw cee-fou dynamite at mans).

I mean the voice overs and such are incredibly pretty and well done but...they're not why I play the game and they kinda impose a tough framework to work around.

Also, am I the only person that when the announcer says "objective Butter" I start thinking she's mispronouncing "Beta" at first? My brain always goes "Objective Buuhta, no wait she said Butter"

Edit: also I have way too much fun whenever some attackers take a bunker and I just chuck a molotov inside.

Alkydere fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Nov 1, 2016

Snuffman
May 21, 2004

Any tips for a medic just trying to get 5 kills in one life with the medic ribbon?

Mondragon optical is my choice, but I'm open to suggestions.

DoctorStrangelove
Jun 7, 2012

IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT MEIN FUHRER!

Be good at shooting. Throw grenades. Do not fear death.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

DoctorStrangelove posted:

Be good at shooting. Throw grenades. Do not fear death.

Impact grenades to seal the deal with some very hairy close range skirmishes could help.

Symetrique
Jan 2, 2013




Pubbies really get salty if you're not flying bombers straight at a dreadnought. Its like no one knows how torpedos work.

Tarantula
Nov 4, 2009

No go ahead stand in the fire, the healer will love the shit out of you.
I think that's the 5th game where I've had someone on my team get control of a behemoth and just....sit there, almost always with the train, is there something about trains that make people stupid? Is it coated in lead armour and it's leaking through the monitor.

NickBlasta
May 16, 2003

Clearly their proficiency at shooting is supernatural, not practical, in origin.

Tarantula posted:

I think that's the 5th game where I've had someone on my team get control of a behemoth and just....sit there, almost always with the train, is there something about trains that make people stupid? Is it coated in lead armour and it's leaking through the monitor.

It's because the driver gets an indirect artillery piece.

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

Klisejo posted:

OK, glad it's not just me. I've tried iron and radium at all the different zooms, and it just feels inaccurate. I'd qualify that with "past 100 yards", but last night there were some close-up shots in Amien that had me screaming WTF. The big blocky front post doesnt help, but I can usualy get past things like that (hello BF4 M60)

If we had the BF4 firing range I'd have figured it out by now...

I have problems with that gun too. Going from the SMLE to it made me feel so inaccurate that it made me just go back to the SMLE.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
Thing with the train is you're on a set track so its hella fuckin easy to just AT mine the poo poo out of it and if you move you'll eat 20 of them.

Delacroix
Dec 7, 2010

:munch:

Snuffman posted:

Any tips for a medic just trying to get 5 kills in one life with the medic ribbon?

Mondragon optical is my choice, but I'm open to suggestions.

If you want to play conservatively, try to stay a short distance away from your teammates. When they engage enemies, look for a flank or an opening to pick off the enemy damaged by gas, nades, etc. Especially medics that come in to revive. Quite often they bunch up for a frag nade as an added bonus. Using an optical sight is probably ideal since if you sit too far back from fights you might be shot by snipers.

You could also pack a shovel/pickaxe/hatchet and run around looking for trouble. It's possible to get away with murder when there are no flares to deal with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMzFFDp2txw

I posted this before but it's great to keep yourself topped up as medic in the same vein it is to be a support with gas nades and good hipfire pistol.

Gonkish
May 19, 2004

The one downside of operations is that AA emplacements can be permanently destroyed. I get why, but it leads to air shitters killing all of them and then jerking themselves off over how amazing they are. Anything that enables pilots is bad. :colbert:

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

Zzulu posted:

The horses are garbage, what is even the point of them

You hop on a horse and your profile becomes huge and the entire map tries to shoot you while you flail your stupid sword at people and miss 70% of the time

gently caress off.

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

Gonkish posted:

The one downside of operations is that AA emplacements can be permanently destroyed. I get why, but it leads to air shitters killing all of them and then jerking themselves off over how amazing they are. Anything that enables pilots is bad. :colbert:

As someone who loves the attack plane with ground support kit I wholeheartedly disagree. Air power is totally loving OP but it's offset in the early game by how stupidly powerful AA is. In the mid to late game AA will be sparser and so if your own pilots can't hack it in the air there's always the AA car.

The issue with air power in operations is IMO the zeppelin.

Michaellaneous
Oct 30, 2013

Every time I play this game, without fail, I get a headache. This happens with literally no other game.

Also campaign loving sucks.

Symetrique
Jan 2, 2013




Demiurge4 posted:

As someone who loves the attack plane with ground support kit I wholeheartedly disagree. Air power is totally loving OP but it's offset in the early game by how stupidly powerful AA is. In the mid to late game AA will be sparser and so if your own pilots can't hack it in the air there's always the AA car.

The issue with air power in operations is IMO the zeppelin.

Nah, I agree with him. Not saying that they should instantly respawn, but being able to blow up AA emplacements permanently, often before any enemies can spawn remotely near them is unbalanced. AA is powerful, but there are a lot of ways to approach an emplacement without the gunner seeing you or without having enough time to react.

Gonkish
May 19, 2004

Empire's Edge is really fun in Operations. It's a shame that it almost never gets played.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Michaellaneous posted:

Every time I play this game, without fail, I get a headache. This happens with literally no other game.

Also campaign loving sucks.

Could it be your FoV is set too narrow or wide for you? Try messing around with that.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Xaris posted:

They should have just went with one map, they're long enough as it is. I wish I could play Amiens and stuff way more :( I'm getting a little tired playing nothing but Fao, Ballroom, and Kaiserschlacht ad nausea
This is so loving obvious i have no idea why it couldn't be in 1.01.

Gonkish
May 19, 2004

I guess EA has done exactly no curating of avatars, because I have seen everything from hentai, to porn, to swastikas and Klan symbols in the aftermatch synopsis.

Stanley Pain
Jun 16, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Gonkish posted:

I guess EA has done exactly no curating of avatars, because I have seen everything from hentai, to porn, to swastikas and Klan symbols in the aftermatch synopsis.

Who really cares though?

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

Getting racists banned from games is a fun pastime. Edgelords to.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Gonkish posted:

I guess EA has done exactly no curating of avatars, because I have seen everything from hentai, to porn, to swastikas and Klan symbols in the aftermatch synopsis.

They do if you snitch on them.

Do your part citizen.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Randler posted:

They do if you snitch on them.

Do your part citizen.

EA has implemented no easy way to report somebody for any number of things. Previously you had to go through Battlelog to do it generally and whoops guess that's out of the picture.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
Klan symbols and hitler pics are entirely appropriate for ww1.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Panzeh posted:

Klan symbols and hitler pics are entirely appropriate for ww1.

Klan symbols were, Birth of a Nation came out in 1915.

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



Randler posted:

They do if you snitch on them.

Do your part citizen.

I only RP a Stasi informant in Cold War shooters. My immersion.

MadJackMcJack
Jun 10, 2009

Gonkish posted:

The one downside of operations is that AA emplacements can be permanently destroyed. I get why, but it leads to air shitters killing all of them and then jerking themselves off over how amazing they are. Anything that enables pilots is bad. :colbert:

It's not too bad since you can still shoot down planes with other ground weapons, mounted machine guns being particularly good but even suppressive Support weapons will do a number on them. It's nothing like modern-era Battlefields where jets could zoom around with impunity because the AA was easily avoided/flared.

Panzeh posted:

Klan symbols and hitler pics are entirely appropriate for ww1.

Only if it's pictures of young Hitler.



Look at that glorious mustache :allears:

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNegKZt28D4

explain this, scientists. you can't.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

Gonkish posted:

I guess EA has done exactly no curating of avatars, because I have seen everything from hentai, to porn, to swastikas and Klan symbols in the aftermatch synopsis.

Good. My 'Hitler Did 9/11' Avatar rides again

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...


Man I have to agree I'm liking the maps on conquest and operations a lot. Probably will buy the season pass when the first map pack comes out. We don't have any free dlc coming do we? For preorders or in general?

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx

MadJackMcJack posted:

It's not too bad since you can still shoot down planes with other ground weapons, mounted machine guns being particularly good but even suppressive Support weapons will do a number on them. It's nothing like modern-era Battlefields where jets could zoom around with impunity because the AA was easily avoided/flared.


Only if it's pictures of young Hitler.



Look at that glorious mustache :allears:

No wonder Hitler lost it dude lost 80% of his company in <3 months.

quote:

During the war, Hitler served in France and Belgium in the 16th Bavarian Reserve Regiment. He was an infantryman in the 1st Company during the First Battle of Ypres (October 1914), which is remembered in Germany as the Kindermord bei Ypern (Massacre of the Innocents) because approximately 40,000 men (between a third and a half) of nine newly enlisted infantry divisions were killed in 20 days. Hitler's regiment entered the battle with 3,600 men and at its end mustered 611.[5] The regimental commander was killed and thereafter they were known as the Regiment List in his honor. By December Hitler's own company of 250 was reduced to 42. Biographer John Keegan claims that this experience drove Hitler to become aloof and withdrawn for the remaining years of war.[6] After the battle Hitler was promoted from Schütze (Private) to Gefreiter (Lance Corporal) and assigned to be a regimental message runner.
Some regard this assignment as "a relatively safe job", because regimental headquarters was often several miles behind the Front.[7] According to Thomas Weber of the University of Aberdeen, earlier historians of the period had not distinguished between regimental runners, who were based away from the front "in relative comfort", and company, or battalion runners, who moved among the trenches and were more often under fire.[7]

It is scarcely surprising that those living in the trenches envied those in the rear. But relative comfort and safety distract from recognizing a decisive step in Hitler's rise to the command of the German armed forces.[citation needed] Regimental headquarters became the classroom in which he obtained his on-the-job military education. For almost four years he was allowed to read incoming orders, directives and outgoing orders. He studied military history and theory and discussed his ideas with the officers. He researched the capabilities of German and Allied weapons in detail, learned the muzzle velocities and ranges of artillery tubes and machine guns, as well as the horsepower and carrying capacities of the new trucks and automobiles.[citation needed] After the List Regiment were attacked by British tanks near Ypres on July 31, 1917[8] he studied them also. Messengers' duties changed as the army on the Western Front settled into the defense. Fewer messages went by foot or bicycle and more so done by telephone. However, whenever a circuit went out of action two messengers were sent to repair the break; this usually occurred during a bombardment.[citation needed] His circle of close army friends shown in the photographs were also at headquarters. They laughed at "Adi" for his aversion to smutty stories and traded their jam rations for his tobacco.[a]

In early 1915, he adopted a stray dog he named Fuchsl (little fox), who was taught many tricks and became his beloved companion. Hitler described him as a "proper circus dog". In August 1917, the List Regiment was transferred to a quiet sector in Alsace. During the journey, both Fuchsl and Hitler's portfolio of sketches and paintings were stolen.[10] Hitler was heartbroken by his loss, but did take his first leave which consisted of an 18-day visit to Berlin where he stayed with the family of a comrade.[11]

The List regiment fought in many battles, including the First Battle of Ypres, the Battle of the Somme, the Battle of Arras, and the Battle of Passchendaele.[12] During the Battle of Fromelles on 19–20 July 1916 the Bavarians were assaulted by the Australians who were mounting their first attack in France. They were repulsed, suffering the second highest losses they had in any day on the Western Front, about 7,000 men.[13] The history of the List Regiment hailed this brilliant defense as the "personification of the German Army on the Western Front".[14]

At the Nuremberg Trials, two of his former superiors testified that Hitler had refused to be considered for promotion.[15] Hitler was twice decorated for bravery. He received the relatively common Iron Cross, Second Class, in 1914 and Iron Cross, First Class, in 1918, an honour rarely given to a Gefreiter.[16] Hitler's First Class Iron Cross was recommended by Hugo Gutmann, a Jewish List adjutant.[17] According to Weber this rare award was commonly awarded to those posted to regimental headquarters, such as Hitler, who had contact with more senior officers than combat soldiers.[7] Hitler's Iron Cross, First Class was awarded after an attack in open warfare during which messengers were indispensable and on a day in which the depleted regiment lost 60 killed and 211 wounded.[18]

During the Battle of the Somme in October 1916, he was wounded in the left thigh when a shell exploded at the entrance to the dispatch runners' dugout.[19] He begged not to be evacuated,[20] but was sent for almost two months to the Red Cross hospital at Beelitz. Thereafter, he was ordered to the depot in Munich. He wrote to his commanding officer, Hauptmann Fritz Wiedemann, asking that he be recalled to the regiment because he could not tolerate Munich when he knew his comrades were at the Front.[21] Wiedemann arranged for his return to his regiment on 5 March 1917.[11]

On 15 October 1918, he and several comrades were temporarily blinded —and according to Friedelind Wagner[22] Hitler also lost his voice— due to a British mustard gas attack. After initial treatment, Hitler was hospitalized in Pasewalk.[23] While there on 10 November, Hitler learned of Germany's defeat from a pastor, and—by his own account—on receiving this news he suffered a second bout of blindness.[24] Hitler was outraged by the subsequent Treaty of Versailles, which forced Germany to state that they had started the war, deprived Germany of various territories, demilitarised the Rhineland which was occupied by the Allies, and imposed economically damaging sanctions. Hitler later wrote, "When I was confined to bed, the idea came to me that I would liberate Germany, that I would make it great. I knew immediately that it would be realized."[25] However it is unlikely that he committed himself to a career in politics at that point in time.[26]

Hitler wanted to remain in the army after the war, but this was impossible with the near total demilitarisation of the armed forces. He returned to Munich for demobilization.[27] In July 1919 he was appointed Verbindungsmann (intelligence agent) of an Aufklärungskommando (reconnaissance commando) of the Reichswehr, to influence other soldiers and to infiltrate the German Workers' Party (DAP). While monitoring the activities of the DAP, Hitler became attracted to the founder Anton Drexler's
antisemitic, nationalist, anti-capitalist, and anti-Marxist ideas.
[28] Impressed with Hitler's oratory skills, Drexler invited him to join the DAP, which Hitler did on 12 September 1919.[29]

Tei
Feb 19, 2011

So Hitler is basically Darth Vader? he was supposed to help destroy the DAP and bring balance to german politics, but instead he joined them.

TheLightPurges
Sep 24, 2016

by exmarx
"Holy gently caress that was a bad attack. 90% of the messangers got blown the gently caress up. To the 5 of you left heres a medal lol"

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evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

MadJackMcJack posted:

It's not too bad since you can still shoot down planes with other ground weapons, mounted machine guns being particularly good but even suppressive Support weapons will do a number on them. It's nothing like modern-era Battlefields where jets could zoom around with impunity because the AA was easily avoided/flared.
K bullets are also loving dangerous. My friend didn't know and his reaction after being informed and trying it out was hilarious.

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