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CaptCommy posted:How do these challenges work exactly? Like, if it says assassinate 4 targets with an axe what defines a person as a target? Can it be anyone on the map? Or do I have to do contracts/escalations to have proper Targets? They have to be actual assassination targets, which in many cases means you have to create a custom contract to make it possible. In Hokkaido, they have one new spin on it that I hadn't seen before, or at least hadn't bothered to check on: more targets than is actually possible to have in a single contract (8, the maximum being 5) so you have to split the completion up between two different contracts. AdmiralViscen posted:Is there a list somewhere of all mastery unlocks? My googling is only giving guides with the first two stages I decided to  a bit (and just picked the actual equipment unlocks)…Paris mission mastery levels 5: Jaeger 7 (sniper rilfe) 10: ICA Silverballer (pistol) 11: Sedative poison vial 15: TAC-SMG (SMG) 20: HWK 21 Covert (pistol), ICA remote explosive Sapienza mission mastery levels 5: Remote breaching charge 10: ICA remote audio distraction, Lethal poison vial 15: Enram HV (shotgun) 20: Jaeger 7 Lancer (sniper rifle), Proximity explosive duck Marrakesh mission mastery levels 5: Combat knife 10: ICA19 F/A (pistol), Emetic poison vial 15: Remote explosive duck 20: TAC-4 AR Stealth (assault rifle), Proximity CX demo block Challenges Master Fortune Teller: TAC-AR Desert (assault rifle) Bangkok mission mastery levels 5: Nne Obara's machete 10: Enram HV (shotgun), ICA explosive phone 15: Jaeger 7 "Tiger" (sniper rifle) 20: Krugermeier 2-2 (pistol), "Mixtape 47" Challenges Tuppence a Wish: Gold coin Redrum: Antique lethal syringe Colorado mission mastery levels 5: Modern emetic syringe 10: RS-15 (assault rifle), Concealable baton 15: Disposable scrambler 20: TAC-4 S/A (assault rifle), Remote CX demo block Hokkaido mission mastery levels 5: Custom 5mm (pistol) 7: Shuriken 10: Okinawan tonfa 15: Explosive compound 20: Concealable knife, Sieger 300 (sniper rilfe), Loadout slots Elusive targets (numer of completed contracts) 5: Absolution suit 10: Blood Money suit 13: 47's signature suit with gloves Bonus episode challenges Mission Mastery (The Icon): The iconator Mission Mastery (A House Built on Sand): Janbiya Non-specific challenges Escalating the situation (10 full escalations): TAC-SMG Covert (SMG) Some stuff is missing, but I just couldn't find it in the career listing, so…  I'm probably just blind, but I didn't see some of the unsuppressed weapons there, nor the lethal syring. If anyone happens to know what unlocked those, then I'd be happy to update the list. Tippis fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Nov 5, 2016 |
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Does anyone know if there's a way to get Yuki to go back to the steam room after she does her initial stop there? I got the challenge to kill her with it, but it was by bee-lining right there as soon as the mission started. If that's the only way to do it, that'd be interesting considering that the bandages guy will also go off on his own fairly early on. None of the other maps have had hard time limits on opportunities like that. edit: Huh I finally went back and read some other spoiler posts and I guess it's already been discussed. Though I've never seen her go back there after the first visit, maybe my session was just weird. Chexoid fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Nov 5, 2016 |
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Tippis posted:They have to be actual assassination targets, which in many cases means you have to create a custom contract to make it possible. In Hokkaido, they have one new spin on it that I hadn't seen before, or at least hadn't bothered to check on: more targets than is actually possible to have in a single contract (8, the maximum being 5) so you have to split the completion up between two different contracts. Oh that's cool. So you can repeat the same mission over and over to unlock them? Going to do the Ninja missions now I think. 
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The intro to the ninja start made me laugh. Just the idea of 47 taking the chance to be a huge dork and cosplay as a ninja is really funny.
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Tippis posted:They have to be actual assassination targets, which in many cases means you have to create a custom contract to make it possible.  UrbicaMortis posted:The intro to the ninja start made me laugh. Just the idea of 47 taking the chance to be a huge dork and cosplay as a ninja is really funny.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Speaking of the ninja, I like the complication of having to use knocked out people as keys to get around, if you, like me, have no idea where the scrambler is. 47 takes his cosplay very seriously, no fancy modern gadgets for this Silent Ninja. I had wondered if this works, but just used the scrambler and the master key for my ninja run. One thing I love that I don't think anyone has mentioned is how intuitive the door system is. The door access pads show exactly which costumes are allowed through, and the symbols on the costumes get more complex to reflect higher level access. Genius!
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Or find one someone already made for the purpose. Yeah, but those always have some really stupid detail in them that ruins everything. Like asking you to not go through your favourite back door because it's actually nowhere near your target, or something. 
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A Buttery Pastry posted:
Just know when doing the One Last Time, Mr Soder feat, I ended up dragging so many corpses around to open a path for me to go through in the suit.
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I took a swing at the elusive target today, and they got to the restaurant and apparently the zone went from "safe for security to stand in" to "shoot this guard on sight without warning" in a split second. The gently caress, game 
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Asmodai_00 posted:I took a swing at the elusive target today, and they got to the restaurant and apparently the zone went from "safe for security to stand in" to "shoot this guard on sight without warning" in a split second. When doing ETs, always rebind the pause menu to Mouse Button 1.
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Yeppp it's pretty unreasonable. I had to restart that ET a few times because the area around the target became hostile. However, actually completing the ET was pretty easy. I put an explosive duck on the couch and detonated it when the ex-dictator and his wife approached it. The ex-dictator sat down, and the wife picked it up.
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fleshweasel posted:Yeppp it's pretty unreasonable. I had to restart that ET a few times because the area around the target became hostile. That's pretty much been the pattern all along. The only ET I can think of that was kind of tricky to complete was The Twin, since you couldn't use anything imprecise and messy, and you had to be very sure you got the right guy. At the same time, the way it was set up, being precise would expose you an awful lot unless you spent a ton of time prepping half the town.
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Hey, Hitman newcomer here. Sorry if this question gets asked all the time but I was considering picking up the first season thing they've been working on once the physical release comes out in January, but apparently the digital version requires a constant online connection which just doesn't sit well with me. Any word on them stripping it out or removing it for the physical release?
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Bad Seafood posted:Hey, Hitman newcomer here. Probably not going to happen.
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Bad Seafood posted:Hey, Hitman newcomer here. Unlikely, in large part because so much of the content has an online component. What variant of “doesn't sit well” are we talking about? Shaky or intermittent connection, cost, or privacy concerns?
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Yeah if you're internet is in the process of making GBS threads itself it's a real pain in the dick but otherwise you don't notice it. It uses up minuscule amounts of bandwidth if that's a concern.
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Always online seems to be a big sticking point though. Superbunnyhop recently reviewed Season 1 and said it was one of the best stealth games he ever played but if you're crazy enough to look at the comments, everyone says they will never buy it because it's always online. I wonder how many additional sales they'd get if IO told the Square-Enix suits to gently caress off with the always online mandate.
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Mr. Fortitude posted:Always online seems to be a big sticking point though. Superbunnyhop recently reviewed Season 1 and said it was one of the best stealth games he ever played but if you're crazy enough to look at the comments, everyone says they will never buy it because it's always online. I wonder how many additional sales they'd get if IO told the Square-Enix suits to gently caress off with the always online mandate. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a vanishingly small number. If I'm allowed to be presumptuous dick for a moment, I get the distinct feeling that they wouldn't buy it anyway if it had everything offline — they'd pirate it since it would be much easier to do so. I also think that's part of the reason why it's there, although the micro-updates and the leaderboards and all that give IOI/SE a decent enough justification. Beyond that, if I can't be online, then I'm not going to play Hitman anyway — I'm going to be on my phone, making my ISP techs hate me for asking unreasonable questions about uptime. Maybe I'm just weird when I don't play it on my laptop on the subway or something…
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I haven't had the connection fail since around the time of Marrakesh, but it was pretty irritating. I'm not bothered by the online stuff, but I'm sympathetic to the people who are, since I used to worry a lot more about things like that. What if season 2 bombs and Square cuts the servers, or just decides to cut them n-years from now for whatever reason? I just like knowing all my games are still going to work in the future, but care less about that now that I have no free time anyway. It would be nice to have campaign(already offline)/unlocks/escalations all be offline, with the online only needed for the leader board/ETs/contracts. That said, I think it's pretty ridiculous that people are tanking the Steam score with reviews like "best Hitman ever! But online bad! (50 hours played, not recommended)".
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Yeah, ok. I suppose the long-term might be a valid concern, but even then, you can still play the game offline if that's all you want to do. You won't have this nifty duck, or that syringe, but meh…
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I haven't been bothered by the connection thing since they changed it so it's just a little pause instead of knocking you out of the game.Nice Van My Man posted:I haven't had the connection fail since around the time of Marrakesh, but it was pretty irritating. I'm not bothered by the online stuff, but I'm sympathetic to the people who are, since I used to worry a lot more about things like that. What if season 2 bombs and Square cuts the servers, or just decides to cut them n-years from now for whatever reason? I just like knowing all my games are still going to work in the future, but care less about that now that I have no free time anyway. It would be nice to have campaign(already offline)/unlocks/escalations all be offline, with the online only needed for the leader board/ETs/contracts. With non-MMOs that go dead like this, don't they usually just patch it so it doesn't need it anymore?
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Tippis posted:Unlikely, in large part because so much of the content has an online component. I appreciate that Hitman's model is far more beneign and less intrustive than most, but it's still something I'm hesitant to support.
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Mr. Fortitude posted:Always online seems to be a big sticking point though. Superbunnyhop recently reviewed Season 1 and said it was one of the best stealth games he ever played but if you're crazy enough to look at the comments, everyone says they will never buy it because it's always online. I wonder how many additional sales they'd get if IO told the Square-Enix suits to gently caress off with the always online mandate. SBH himself really didn't like the always online thing and felt that certain elements of the design, primarily the Elusive targets, mostly existed to penalize players who hadn't bought it as soon as possible. Its a real shame that there's so much dodgy stuff going on around the game when fundamentally its so drat good. The always online is not helping the consumer at all, there isn't a real multiplayer component to the game. Its clunky DRM and ought to be called out as such. Bad Seafood posted:
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I appreciate it in the sense that I've had conversations like this before, though not about this particular title, where defenders of the game were quick to justify how it "Wasn't as bad as how those other guys do it." As a feature, as a thing some devs and publishers do, I hate it and won't carry water for it, but I'll at least save everyone some time hashing out where everyone stands.
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The justification that SE would probably use is that since it's updated with elusive targets and other online content they feel that it's necessary to be online 24/7 to get the full experience or something. That and they probably log your profile on their servers so you can't disgrace the sanctity of online leaderboards. It's really loving stupid though considering that it's a 100% offline game apart from the plentiful amount of updates/content. I still can't get over how the loving menu is streamed from their servers to you every time you boot the game up though, mind boggling.
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Bad Seafood posted:I appreciate it in the sense that I've had conversations like this before, though not about this particular title, where defenders of the game were quick to justify how it "Wasn't as bad as how those other guys do it." As a feature, as a thing some devs and publishers do, I hate it and won't carry water for it, but I'll at least save everyone some time hashing out where everyone stands. Fair Enough. Anyway, they seem to have basically confirmed season 2 at this point. I have good faith in IO, but I was a bit worried reading some of the stuff they're saying that they don't end up recycling the old maps. I guess it might be alright if they radically modify them, but I'd really like to see entirely new places and I've spent an awful lot of time in Paris and Sapienza at this point.
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I beat Hokkaido and I can definitively say that Marrakesh is the best level because you get to drop a moose on a guy
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It's justified as an anti-piracy measure alone, even before the other elements.
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The counterpoint there is that this game uses a version of Denuvo or whatever it's called that has not been hacked.
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I agree that making mastery progress offline impossible is not good at all. Missing ET's is one thing but not accessing mastery challenge levels and items offline is bizarre
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Are there any actual figures showing games without always on DRM suffer significantly less pirating than those without?
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Probably very little. The game is fun, it's available on 3 different platforms, it's available at less than full price to play. The game has clearly done well. It's weird that mastery isn't saved offline. Odder still I hope you guys get the Sarajevo 7, PS4 owners have it so maybe the exclusivity runs out soon
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Latest ET was super easy. Before they arrived at the dinner table, I coined guards into the spare room nearby and hid their bodies behind the couch. When they sat down to eat, I tossed my remote explosive duck at them which was not immediately recognized as a weapon and ran out of the room before detonating it.
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Tir McDohl posted:Latest ET was super easy. Before they arrived at the dinner table, I coined guards into the spare room nearby and hid their bodies behind the couch. When they sat down to eat, I tossed my remote explosive duck at them which was not immediately recognized as a weapon and ran out of the room before detonating it. if you have the waiter disguise you can safely be out on the balcony and angle a duck toss right to the table, though its hard to see.
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Finally really getting into this - managed to finish Colorado after being at an impasse while trying to get the basement key from the shed. I've generally had a problem with ETs in the past, and have only managed to bump about three of them off successfully. Should I mainline towards the remote explosive duck or the explosive phone for this current one to make my life easier?
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Well the thing is, this game also has Denuvo DRM as well which is pretty tough to crack and only a select handful of games with this DRM have been cracked and it usually takes months; so adding always online on top of that seems especially unnecessary. Plus what will happen if Square-Enix decide to shut off the servers because the game didn't reach their completely unrealistic expectations?
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the japanese attendants 'konbanwa' and 'ogenki-desuka' is real bad lmao. I think the AI is the only natural japanese voice actor since her name pronounciation is pretty good. also I think the mechanic is listening to korean or chinese radio?
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Yeah, I noticed the Chinese radio. I mean I guess it makes sense, the mechanic could be a foreign worker.khwarezm posted:SBH himself really didn't like the always online thing and felt that certain elements of the design, primarily the Elusive targets, mostly existed to penalize players who hadn't bought it as soon as possible. That's interesting. I wait for at least a 50% off sale before I buy games, but Hitman I bought full price since I didn't want to miss out on any ETs. They don't really bother me because their transient nature is what makes them fun in the first place, and the game has plenty of content without them. As regular contracts they would be boring, but as one time missions without a second chance they're one of the most exciting parts of the game for me. Also who is SBH?
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