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GAY IS GOOD! DOWN WITH EVERYTHING Also SUPPORT ABORTION but that one's less outrageous. It was nice of them to invite along a dude who didn't bother putting any words on his hammer-and-sickle sign, though. Very comradely of them.
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Repeat after me. Christianity is stupid. Communism is good. Give up.
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uber_stoat posted:Repeat after me. Christianity is stupid. Communism is good. Give up. From 5:00 in the morning till 10:00 at night!
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DACK FAYDEN posted:GAY IS GOOD! Sounds like the preamble to the GBS constitution
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uber_stoat posted:Repeat after me. Christianity is stupid. Communism is good. Give up. Have you ever heard of this guy, his name was Jesus?
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Gee-zus?
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uber_stoat posted:Repeat after me.
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muscles like this! posted:Gee-zus? Hey-zeuz, actually!
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uber_stoat posted:Repeat after me. Chick's warped view of Christianity is stupid. Communism is still dead. Give up. Fixed
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Agent Escalus posted:Fixed Counterpoint: full communism now
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Tract #48 - That Crazy Guy! (1980) Top: 1980 original. Bottom: 1992 revision. There a whole lot of amazing absurdity and disinformation in this tract. It also received a major revision after being in print for over a decade. The two versions definitely deserve to be seen side-by-side for full impact. Suzi becomes Suzie in the 1992 revision. It's no longer going to be a crazy disco night.  Ms. Damien's neighborly advice seems more slutty in the 1980 version. She is like Jack Chick's Platonic ideal of the horrible threat of "women's liberation." Don't worry, pussycat. If it feels good, do it! Also, Haw Haw.  The "Do it in my Datson (sic)" licence plate cover is changed to "Do it in the Dirt" in the later version.  It is rude to get gonorrhea all over the neighbor's chair.  In the original version, Suzi is diagnosed with herpes. The 1992 version takes it up a notch, and Suzie gets the AIDS.  Quality information from leading sexologists.  Marriage is the only cure for V.D., although stoning adulterers to death is an acceptable preventative measure.  V.D. came right from the Devil.  Demonic activity is the basis of homosexuality.  The state doesn't love you. The school doesn't care about your soul. Hard truths, indeed.  100% of doctors agree - Jesus is the only medicine you'll ever need!  That Crazy Guy! was in print from 1980 to 1991. In 1992 it was reprinted, but with major revisions. Among other changes, Suzie gets AIDS. It's currently out of print again, but still available to be reprinted in numbers of 10,000 or more. Here is a scan of the 1980 version: https://www.scribd.com/document/77344711/Chick-Tract-That-Crazy-Guy-1980 Here is the current version. http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0090/0090_01.asp Gutter Phoenix fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Nov 14, 2016 |
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JACK CHICK: The 1992 version takes it up a notch, and Suzie gets the AIDS.
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quote:"The state doesn't love you, and no one really cares about you" 
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Tract #49 - My Name?...In the Vatican? (1980) Top: Mail-order version. Bottom: Retail version. There is no better way to learn about Jack Chick's fascination with Alberto Rivera and various Catholic conspiracies than to simply read this tract, the next tract (Kiss the Protestants Goodbye) and the Alberto comics (see link below). I'll explain a bit about the different versions though. Both My Name?...In the Vatican? and Kiss the Protestants Good-bye were printed as promo tracts for the Chick Publications Crusaders series of comics detailing the story of Alberto Rivera. The version with white text on the cover was only available with mail-orders from Chick Publications and is significantly more rare than the version with the yellow text, which was apparently given away at retail locations. However, both versions are pretty rare, as this tract was pulled from publication in the early 80's and is permanently out of print. Another interesting thing about this, the next tract, and The Poor Pope? (1983) is that Chick Publications allowed Alberto Rivera and his own "AIC Christian Ministries" to reprint and distribute the tracts however they saw fit. The AIC versions are just poorly assembled photo-copies of the originals with a different back cover.  Above: Alberto (AIC) version, these were obviously copied and hand-stapled rather than professionally printed as Chick tracts are.   Top: Mail-order Chick version. Bottom: Alberto (AIC) version.                       You can read the comics here: http://www.fmh-child.org/Chick_Christian_Comic_Books.html
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Tract #50 - Kiss the Protestants Good-bye (1981)  Top: white text mail-order version. Middle: light blue text Canadian version (?). Bottom: Orange/ red text retail version.   Above: Alberto (AIC) version. These are all very rare, and far more difficult to find than copies of My Name?...In the Vatican? or 1983's The Poor Pope?. This is the second of the 1980 promo tracts for Alberto Rivera's story. See My Name?...In the Vatican? above for more information.                      
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Gutter Phoenix posted:Tract #49 - My Name?...In the Vatican? (1980) loving hell, schizophrenia level conspiracy theory. so what was Alberto Rivera's deal. was he just a weird nutjob or was he just a con-man who struck gold?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:loving hell, schizophrenia level conspiracy theory. so what was Alberto Rivera's deal. was he just a weird nutjob or was he just a con-man who struck gold? The latter. OR IS THAT JUST WHAT "THEY" WANT YOU TO THINK? HAW! HAW! No really, it's the latter, probably with a bit of the former. Even mainline evangelicals thought he was a fraud. e: Article from a then-popular evangelical magazine about how much of a fraud he was. skasion fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Nov 14, 2016 |
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If homosexuality is wrong, how can I love jesus?
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ditty bout my clitty posted:If homosexuality is wrong, how can I love jesus? You're supposed to choose to be straight and to accept Jesus as your personal savior.
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If homosexuality is wrong, then why does the resurrected body of Jesus have holes in his hands for giving the ultimate handies to his bros? What about that naughty gash in his side? E: also the Church is his bride and depending on era, Song of Solomon has been interpreted as a picture of Christ's love for his Church.
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I'm not on any review committees, but this seems like unethical behaviour for a medical doctor 
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BORN TO SIN POPE IS A gently caress SAVE EM ALL 1989 I AM TRACT MAN 410,757,864,530 DEAD JESUITS
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Dehumanize yourself and face to the Big Computer in the Vatican.
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Dreddout posted:BORN TO SIN
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Dreddout posted:BORN TO SIN
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Dreddout posted:BORN TO SIN 
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skasion posted:The latter. OR IS THAT JUST WHAT "THEY" WANT YOU TO THINK? HAW! HAW! I am sure he was con-man. but that raises one of my questions of how many of these people(tevanglicals, evangelicals, etc) are just con man and how many are just nut jobs. like i think kevan swanson is a legit nutjob. http://www.rightwingwatch.org/people/kevin-swanson/ but people like henry lewis ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvYQh5xwO4I&t=6s) are probaly con men, so why do all the women on the panal believe him, like how he was king warlock and met shiva and poo poo. is it like a weird religious version of the emperor has no clothes.
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Well, I can believe that someone might have the legitimate experience of meeting Shiva, or truly believe that they were the leading occultist in America for a few years. Those things are likely true to them, or at least some of them. People that don't go on TV and seek attention seem more likely to have had genuine experiences, to my mind. I've had several genuine religious experiences in my lifetime, including briefly connecting with the divine and being stalked by demonic entities. I'm an atheist now, whereas I was a devout Christian in my youth. The demons were sleep paralysis and night terrors/night hags filtered through what I knew and believed. Once I found out that my strange waking nightmares were a common experience shared throughout all cultures, times and religions and that they had scientific reasons behind them, I stopped being terrified and started being fascinated when I had an episode. Over the years the dreams have just faded away as Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, talk therapy and psychiatric medication have quieted my inner turmoil, self-hate, and doubts. I've "touched the divine" both as a believer and an atheist. The right combination of mood and stimulus, often coupled with large groups of other people focused on the same thing, like a worship service or a particularly intense metal concert, have induced that euphoric, transcendent state in me. It's really hard to describe, but the feeling is the most intense thing I've ever felt or will again, until the next time. Then again, I also reached that rarefied state once by listening to a really lovely album for the first time on my headphones, spacing out, and then coming to an hour later. I was manic at the time, so it was a bit easier than normal I suppose. That all said, just because I might believe that someone's supernatural or spiritual experiences are genuine, doesn't mean that they are real in the measurable, scientific sense (other than brain scans, I guess). It's not an "event" that happened that can be recorded in history, but was rather just the the right chemical slurry in the right bit of brain, or the proper ELF from a pipe to provoke visual hallucinations on the edge of vision and a sense of impending dread. To a schizophrenic, a bipolar, or even many normal people experiencing hallucinations, those events are very real in their minds.
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Pvt.Scott posted:Well, I can believe that someone might have the legitimate experience of meeting Shiva, or truly believe that they were the leading occultist in America for a few years. Those things are likely true to them, or at least some of them. People that don't go on TV and seek attention seem more likely to have had genuine experiences, to my mind. Former evangelical here. I experienced religious ecstasy more than once in the Born-again (tm), backwoods, out-house having churches of my youth. A combination of brain chemistry mixed with a group of similarly-primed fellow believers creates a feedback loop - it is a kind of mass hysteria. At the time, I believed it to be - and the church certainly encourages such belief - to be the spirit of God moving through the church. I wouldn't go back to those days of ignorance for anything, but I have never experienced anything quite like it since. Seriously, it's a high not unlike love-saturated sex.
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has jack chick come back from the dead yet?? it's been way more than 3 days!
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he's not coming back. Chick was very thorough in his doctrine, but not thorough enough. he forgot to dot one theological I and cross one spiritual T, so now he's marinating in the burning lake of fire. nice try Jacko.
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One downside of dying at a much older age than Jesus (version 1.0) is that your friends are also really old and they throw their backs out trying to roll the boulder out of the way.
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uber_stoat posted:he's not coming back. Chick was very thorough in his doctrine, but not thorough enough. he forgot to dot one theological I and cross one spiritual T, so now he's marinating in the burning lake of fire. nice try Jacko. HAW HAW
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Tract #51 - Are Roman Catholics Christians? (1981) Above: 1981 white text mail-order and green-text retail versions.  Above: 1985 revision and current version. Jack Chick seemed to have been a bit obsessed with Catholic conspiracies after meeting Alberto Rivera, as previously seen with 1980's My Name?... In the Vatican? and 1981's Kiss the Protestants Good-bye. Like those two titles, Are Roman Catholics Christians? was also published as a promotional tract, although it has a more general anti-Catholic theme rather than being focused on Alberto's conspiratorial claims. While the other two were eventually pulled from publication and are now permanently our of print, Are Roman Catholics Christians? received a revision and new cover in 1985, and has remained in print almost unchanged ever since. The 1981 version shows a priest using his powers of transubstantiation. ZAP!  There are some other changes between the 1981 promo version (top) and the 1985 regular version (bottom), although they are both hostile towards Catholicism.    The last few pages of the 1981 version promote Chick tracts and the Crusaders comics, particularly those that tell the story of Alberto Rivera.   Here is a scan of the 1985 revision: https://www.scribd.com/document/77274967/Chick-Tract-Are-Roman-Catholics-Christian Here is the current version (also has the 1985 copyright date): http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0071/0071_01.asp
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Tract #52 - The Big Spender (1982) This is a modern day retelling of the parable of the prodigal son. Howard wins big at a casino. A couple of guys run his car off the road, steal his money, beat him up, and leave him for dead.     He ends up homeless, and has to listen to a sermon in order to get food from a soup kitchen. Coincidentally, the preacher tells the story of the prodigal son. Howard can relate to the story, and decides to accept Christ. The Big Spender went out of print in 1985 and hasn't been reprinted since then, although it is still available to be ordered in quantities of 10,000 or more copies. It's not an amazing tract, but it had a pretty short initial run, so it can be a tough one to find. There is a fairly recent German version from 2003, although that one appears to have gone out of print recently as well.   Here is the current version: http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0091/0091_01.asp Here is the 2003 German version: http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0444/0444_01.asp
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Tract #53 - Back From the Dead (1982) Top to bottom: original and recent versions (both have 1982 copyright), Arabic version (1991). This one is pretty straightforward. A man dies in the hospital and comes back to life, but not before spending some time in Hell. He asks to talk to a preacher so he can get saved, post-haste. Fred Carter did some neat drawings of demons for this one:   Back From the Dead hasn't changed much since it was first published. The current version is available here: http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0096/0096_01.asp
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