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MrOnBicycle posted:If he really cared about people not crashing, he'd be standing at the top of the hill and warn people / put out his cones instead of standing where he's useless just so he can make money of putting up a video on YouTube. He did put up cones tho
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Fuckin' shame the two assholes in the Comcast trucks didn't get hit, after causing the issue in the first place and ignoring it after it was clearly a problem.
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I wouldn't want to crash into that utility bed, you're going to get hosed up and there won't be much damage to them.
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PT6A posted:Fuckin' shame the two assholes in the Comcast trucks didn't get hit, after causing the issue in the first place and ignoring it after it was clearly a problem. Most folks were going around them just fine. It was only the morons driving way too fast for conditions that were getting into trouble. The guys in the Comcast trucks were trying to do their job, and were complying with the safety requirements. I've been in similar jobs, and the supervisors and managers don't give a gently caress, and if you want to keep your job, you comply with the rules and do your job. If the safety (traffic) requirements are not good enough, then they need to be fixed by the local area that defines those requirements. For example, in Phoenix if a utility vehicle is going to close a lane (for pole or manhole access for example like these guys are doing) then they are required by Phoenix to set up a traffic & barricade plan which is then approved by the city and implemented by a barricade company. But if the city didn't require that, I guarantee you that the management of the utilities here would just park a truck in the road with some cones and call it good, and the line workers have exactly zero choice in this other than no longer doing their job and being without a paycheck.
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Phanatic posted:That's loving insane. That's even dumber than jughandle turns in Jersey. What's the rationale behind that? Jughandles are great. Right lane for entering and exiting the road, left lane for cruising.
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The Locator posted:Most folks were going around them just fine. It was only the morons driving way too fast for conditions that were getting into trouble. The guys in the Comcast trucks were trying to do their job, and were complying with the safety requirements. If your safety plan only accounts for what should happen, and not what is actually likely to happen, then it's a pretty loving lovely safety plan. Should people be speeding, especially in those conditions? Of course not. People were going way too fast for conditions, that much is clear. However, if you've watched four offs and an accident, and choose to do nothing about it, you start to bear some responsibility, in my view. Safety plans need to reflect reality, not an idealized situation.
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FogHelmut posted:Jughandles are great. Right lane for entering and exiting the road, left lane for cruising. I rather like the Las Vegas variant, not sure if they have an official name though. The main street gets one lane partitioned off with a low speedbump sized lane marker. People turning left onto this road are forced to stay on one side of the marker, and pass through traffic gets a protected lane where they can maintain their speed. Example of it here: https://www.google.com/maps/@36.2186098,-115.2968958,172m/data=!3m1!1e3 What does't work is the travesty of traffic planning they used on Palatine road north of Chicago. Words can't accurately describe it, you just gotta look at the map/street view to figure out what the gently caress is going on. Best I can come up with is they wanted to put a highway in along with a frontage road, but didn't have enough money to do overpasses so they tried to fix it with stop lights. https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1096931,-87.9279378,3a,60y,94.77h,81.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smIWL817Vjbto072Qg73oYQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 That line of cars on the right side? They're waiting to turn left because the center lanes are straight only. 
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xzzy posted:I rather like the Las Vegas variant, not sure if they have an official name though. The main street gets one lane partitioned off with a low speedbump sized lane marker. People turning left onto this road are forced to stay on one side of the marker, and pass through traffic gets a protected lane where they can maintain their speed. "Seagull Intersection", according to Wikipedia. Or if you're in Nevada, a High-T intersection. I haven't driven through that one, but I have driven through our other weird intersection, the diverging diamond , as seen on Google Maps. That one apparently caused all sorts of problems when it first opened. 
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Zamujasa posted:"Seagull Intersection", according to Wikipedia. Or if you're in Nevada, a High-T intersection. I haven't driven through that one, but I have driven through our other weird intersection, the diverging diamond , as seen on Google Maps. That one apparently caused all sorts of problems when it first opened. That one isn't super clear of what's going on, but here is another one: https://goo.gl/maps/d8zUSLEWhTy. They are popping these things up everywhere. Predictably, they work okay until someone not familiar with them attempts to use them or traffic reaches a certain level and then they break down (much like traffic circles).
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We got our first diverging diamond last year, and it seems to work pretty well. The only flaw is they crammed it in over the top of a traditional overpass that was built in the 50's and they made it too small for traffic to maintain speed.. you have to go from 45 down to 35 to safely make the bends. HFX posted:or traffic reaches a certain level and then they break down (much like traffic circles). I think diverging diamonds have been proven mathematically to be more efficient in terms of number of vehicles per hour that can enter/exit the highway. They just don't feel faster to the individual because there's a lot more stop lights that you can get stuck at.
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xzzy posted:We got our first diverging diamond last year, and it seems to work pretty well. It probably does under normal conditions. What I've seen though is that if traffic becomes bad enough to grid lock traffic begins backing up much worse on the ramps. It could also be the general increase in traffic seen while they were building these as the recession started to ease. Then again, Atlanta drivers do not seem to understand the concepts of not entering an intersection if you know you can't make it across, turning lanes / break down lanes are simply passing lanes to get around suckers, and order of yield precedent at a green light. HFX fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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The Locator posted:Most folks were going around them just fine. It was only the morons driving way too fast for conditions that were getting into trouble. The guys in the Comcast trucks were trying to do their job, and were complying with the safety requirements. Here's the requirements Indiana (where the video was filmed) has defined for temporary closure of a lane on an undivided two lane road for road or utility work:  The Comcast guys had a fraction of the required cones and were missing...everything else. Theris fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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Theris posted:Here's the requirements Indiana (where the video was filmed) has defined for temporary closure of a lane on an undivided two lane road for road or utility work: If those are the requirements there, then yea, I'll give Comcast a fair portion of the blame. I was taking the Comcast guy in the video's description of what was required as the truth I suppose. I've seen plenty of places where the requirements are minimal to none, so it didn't seem terribly out of whack. I was in no way intending to say that what they did was 'safety appropriate', just saying that if their manager/supervisor's were unwilling to provide more traffic control then that, it put the line workers in a bad position of either doing the job without it, or probably losing their jobs for not doing the work.
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Illinois closure standards are pretty similar and I have not once seen a temporary lane closure marked with more than one or two beat up orange cones. I believe the term for this is "normalizaion of deviation," as nothing bad continues to happen people stray further from the rules until it all goes tits up.
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Also, even if they were complying with the law, merely complying with the law doesn't mean you can't be held liable if negligent.
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I've had a few close calls in the past month where people almost merge/change lanes into me. One of these days someone is going to lose a mirror and/or get lots of scuff marks on their door because they didn't look before drifting into a white TJ with a 4" lift and 33" tires. The only reason it hasn't happened in most of these cases is because I get paranoid when I'm passing through people's blind spots and check the other side to make sure I can swerve when they inevitably do. It's the most fun when they hit the turn signal right as they turn the wheel. Motherfucker, how did you not see me from your Civic?
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Stories like that is exactly why I won't ever drive a motorcycle on public roads.
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xzzy posted:What does't work is the travesty of traffic planning they used on Palatine road north of Chicago. Words can't accurately describe it, you just gotta look at the map/street view to figure out what the gently caress is going on. Best I can come up with is they wanted to put a highway in along with a frontage road, but didn't have enough money to do overpasses so they tried to fix it with stop lights. Any decade now, they are going to think about considering a possible decision of what to do or not so with Palatine Road: https://www.palatineroad.com/Past_Proposals.php xzzy posted:Illinois closure standards are pretty similar and I have not once seen a temporary lane closure marked with more than one or two beat up orange cones. Confirming this is not an exaggerated anecdote. Dozens of times on Devon Ave in Chicago, we'd all happily be cruising along at 5 over the limit when suddenly brake lights and swerving. I looked for an accident and instead found a single orange barrel in the middle of the lane, followed by a 3 foot hole in the asphalt 15 feet later. Sometimes the orange barrel is in the hole, so at least they know it's there.
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xzzy posted:We got our first diverging diamond last year, and it seems to work pretty well. There's a new diverging diamond here in Rochester, NY and only twice have I seen drivers speed down the wrong side completely. Kind of amazed it doesn't occur more frequently, although I am a fan of the design. It would work flawlessly if there wasn't another intersection less than 200ft away causing jams inside the diamond during rush hour.
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PT6A posted:If your safety plan only accounts for what should happen, and not what is actually likely to happen, then it's a pretty loving lovely safety plan. I'll take "Symptoms of late stage capitalism" for $100, Alex
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This guy was going dead straight. Sorry for taking the picture while driving, I know I was being negligent, but it was absurd. The right side was easily 2-3 inches lower than the left, that's not just the bank of the road. I don't think anything was in the bed either.
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AFewBricksShy posted:This guy was going dead straight. Sorry for taking the picture while driving, I know I was being negligent, but it was absurd. The right side was easily 2-3 inches lower than the left, that's not just the bank of the road. I don't think anything was in the bed either. Ah, a hybrid low‐rider. Models include Dodge Dahu and Honda Haggis.
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Man these guys were on him fast http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=05b_1481755947
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B4Ctom1 posted:Man these guys were on him fast Drug house. No one else is watching that cameea that close (and they weren't that close to the fence.)
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Live accident on i95 and Washington, D.C.... 12/17.. Tanker live explosion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea4mVMXj9hw Winters finally here.
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Did I just watch someone die?
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nm posted:Drug house. No one else is watching that cameea that close (and they weren't that close to the fence.) Explains why those guys are so good at hopping fences and hauling rear end, too. Holy poo poo
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Geoj posted:Did I just watch someone die? quote:WASHINGTON — At least two people have been killed in a massive pileup on Interstate 95.
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Geoj posted:Did I just watch someone die? No, kids in Syria watch people die. You watch YouTube.
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AFewBricksShy posted:This guy was going dead straight. Sorry for taking the picture while driving, I know I was being negligent, but it was absurd. The right side was easily 2-3 inches lower than the left, that's not just the bank of the road. I don't think anything was in the bed either. I had an Cutlass that got like that after 20 years. A new set of springs fixed her right up. Well then the front sat too high, so I had to replace the rears also.
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nm posted:Drug house. No one else is watching that cameea that close (and they weren't that close to the fence.) Wow good call.
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It's when it doesn't work, and he hooks it back up exactly the same way.
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It takes a special kind of retard to put a tow strap on a loving wheel, holy poo poo. E: 
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doublepostin' Friday night some loving nimrod in a white E250 van blew a stop sign at Hillcroft & King Phillip in worcester mass. I had no stop sign. He nailed my forester pretty good, even a hair more and it would have bent the A pillar enough to require pulling. As it is, a new door barely fit. It's a 500 dollar car. I really really do not feel like shopping for a new beater, dealing with insurance, and bringing a new beater up to date on deferred maintenance in january. And they would total my turdbucket in a second if I put in a claim. So I was in the mood to be nice and not report it. He gave me 100 on the spot and said he'd cover any more I needed, I am hoping he is good for it because I don't feel like wrangling with insurance over this. Anyways, here is my stupid pretzel of a car and the beginnings of the repairs. Thanks for blowing that stopsign idiot. https://imgur.com/gallery/krL7M
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Pics from the Baltimore crash/fire/clusterfuck yesterday: http://imgur.com/a/YU0ea
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Vorkosigan posted:Pics from the Baltimore crash/fire/clusterfuck yesterday: Some serious carnage there. First pic showing that SUV down there, wonder if it was down there before the tanker went over, or somehow got swept over with it. Also the last pic answers the question of whether the cab of the tanker went over with the trailer. RIP trucker dude. That one little car that was pancaked from both sides shows no signs of extraction, hope that means the occupants were no longer in the car when the pancaking happened. What was the final casualty count of that mess?
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The Locator posted:Some serious carnage there. First pic showing that SUV down there, wonder if it was down there before the tanker went over, or somehow got swept over with it. Also the last pic answers the question of whether the cab of the tanker went over with the trailer. RIP trucker dude. 2
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