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The game definitely expects you to be able to lurk around the second floor near the speakers in a suit; there's the one escalation where you have to kill one person on each floor with the battle axe in a suit, after all. Just watch out for the cameras and the set of patrolling guards and you're fine. Come to think, I can't actually recall another way to SASO Novikov aside from slightly finnicky stuff like getting him and his guard on opposite sides of the door, triggering an explosion, and shoving Victor in a closet while everybody's frozen in shock.
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My god how could i forget... the fire extinguisher
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Dec 23, 2016 14:48
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The easiest way to deal with Novikov's bodyguard is to put emetic poison in the glass that he drinks from while Novikov yells at the kitchen staff. When he's poisoned he'll go puke in the bathroom across the hall that has a closet in it. There's plenty of leeway to sneak in there and poison the glass even without a disguise, and if you don't already have emetic poison on you there's some in the corner of the kitchen.
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Dec 23, 2016 17:05
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Rochallor posted:The game definitely expects you to be able to lurk around the second floor near the speakers in a suit; there's the one escalation where you have to kill one person on each floor with the battle axe in a suit, after all. Just watch out for the cameras and the set of patrolling guards and you're fine. The easiest way is to get your hand on a screwdriver (there's one in the café/exhibit area on the right from the entrance — the one with the camera-less reporter in it) and electrocute him in the puddle in the garden. It looks exposed, but you can flip the switch without anyone seeing, and most of the people on the terrace are crowd-NPCs that can't actually react to you so you can actually sabotage the outlet fairly easily. You'll get a lot of vision indicators, but everyone should be far away enough to not actually have time to spot what you're doing.
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Dec 23, 2016 17:39
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Tippis posted:The easiest way is to get your hand on a screwdriver (there's one in the café/exhibit area on the right from the entrance — the one with the camera-less reporter in it) and electrocute him in the puddle in the garden. It looks exposed, but you can flip the switch without anyone seeing, and most of the people on the terrace are crowd-NPCs that can't actually react to you so you can actually sabotage the outlet fairly easily. You'll get a lot of vision indicators, but everyone should be far away enough to not actually have time to spot what you're doing. I might give that a shot. I think they changed the indicator speed for the wine glass on the top floor terrace. I tried it just to try it a few days ago and people flipped before the action was even done. Luckily I can take out Margolis in my sleep at this point using the bathroom of distractions
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Dec 23, 2016 17:47
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There's a moment when he walks in the back halls near the kitchen, next to a bunch of clothing racks, where the pathing separates the bodyguard from Novikov just enough to garrote him with nobody catching on. I'm not suggesting you try this, but it was my proest SASO ever 
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Dec 23, 2016 17:52
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…also, I use “actually” far too much. 
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https://twitter.com/hitman/status/812349561700290560
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Dec 23, 2016 18:46
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Somebody is going to have a severe case of food poisoning...
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Dec 23, 2016 18:55
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Easiest way I found to SASO Novikov (and Paris in general) is with the Dalia balcony shove. With enough time spent on the map you find paths to get pretty much anywhere without changing out of your suit. The basement stairwell is probably the most useful elevation change area on the map.
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Dec 23, 2016 19:06
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Pennfalath posted:Somebody is going to have a severe case of food poisoning... It'd be funny if they throw a curveball and he never eats or drinks anything.
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Dec 23, 2016 19:08
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Maphis posted:Easiest way I found to SASO Novikov (and Paris in general) is with the Dalia balcony shove. With enough time spent on the map you find paths to get pretty much anywhere without changing out of your suit. The basement stairwell is probably the most useful elevation change area on the map. I don't even remember any more: does the guard leave the balcony when she takes her smoke break to watch the fireworks? Because if so, then yes, that's probably by far the easiest combo — the only tricky part is getting your hands on the remote, and that's just a matter of timing.
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Dec 23, 2016 19:12
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I remember the guard not moving, I know I've done that assassination before. There's a chance I don't remember taking him out or changing disguise, it's been months since I've done that exact assassination
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Dec 23, 2016 19:28
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Tippis posted:I don't even remember any more: does the guard leave the balcony when she takes her smoke break to watch the fireworks? Because if so, then yes, that's probably by far the easiest combo — the only tricky part is getting your hands on the remote, and that's just a matter of timing. He turns around to watch the fireworks and doesn't even notice her plummet to her death.
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Dec 23, 2016 19:34
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Maphis posted:He turns around to watch the fireworks and doesn't even notice her plummet to her death. Excellent. There you go then: definitely a strong candidate for an easy SASO.
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Dec 23, 2016 19:36
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Oh man I hope I can get home in time to finish this ET before it expires.
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Dec 23, 2016 20:41
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frank.club posted:My god how could i forget... the fire extinguisher I will never get tired of the satisfying "ping pang BLAM" when you shoot a fire extinguisher in this game.
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Dec 23, 2016 21:03
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MeatwadIsGod posted:It'd be funny if they throw a curveball and he never eats or drinks anything.
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Dec 23, 2016 22:29
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Based on that image, he might be stalking around in the lobby/bar area, which would mean he'd be an excellent target for some coconut action…
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Dec 23, 2016 22:54
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What is the point of the exterminator opportunity in Bangkok? I followed it all the way through and now instead of being on the top floor of a hotel full of guards, the target is unconscious in an atrium full of guards and I'm still no closer to killing him. 
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Dec 23, 2016 23:18
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Pilchenstein posted:What is the point of the exterminator opportunity in Bangkok? I followed it all the way through and now instead of being on the top floor of a hotel full of guards, the target is unconscious in an atrium full of guards and I'm still no closer to killing him. The fact that he's immobile downstairs means he's closer to being killed — it's just that getting to him is still tricky. Beyond that, if you abandon the opportunity half-way through you get probably the best kill in the game… 
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Dec 23, 2016 23:23
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Pilchenstein posted:What is the point of the exterminator opportunity in Bangkok? I followed it all the way through and now instead of being on the top floor of a hotel full of guards, the target is unconscious in an atrium full of guards and I'm still no closer to killing him.
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Dec 23, 2016 23:24
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That opportunity can also set up the two-for-one coconut kill.
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Dec 23, 2016 23:41
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gently caress I missed it. Does anyone know what time on Friday these things expire?
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Dec 23, 2016 23:48
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Note that you'll want to eliminate the other target first if you go the gas-necksnap route, otherwise Cross will eventually be found and cause a target lockdown.
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Dec 23, 2016 23:50
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I thought maybe I was missing some final thing to do with it is all. Also, is it me or is the lawyer a bit of an afterthought? The briefing didn't mention him until two thirds of the way through and he's absurdly easy to accident kill. 
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Dec 24, 2016 00:23
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The game at least makes you feel okay for killing him since he got a rich murderous client off on an affluenza defense
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Dec 24, 2016 00:53
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Wow the glass in the operating console in front of the Gal mainframe door is surprisingly bullet proof
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Pilchenstein posted:I thought maybe I was missing some final thing to do with it is all. Also, is it me or is the lawyer a bit of an afterthought? The briefing didn't mention him until two thirds of the way through and he's absurdly easy to accident kill. I actually had a bear of a time taking out the lawyer- most of the areas in his initial cycle are too swamped with other NPCs.
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That lawyer's a bastard because there's so much food to sample but he only picks one at random. And when he gets sick he ignores the perfectly nice bathroom and goes to throw up in the lobby bushes.
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BrainMeats posted:That lawyer's a bastard because there's so much food to sample but he only picks one at random. And when he gets sick he ignores the perfectly nice bathroom and goes to throw up in the lobby bushes. I find that he usually chooses the fourth from the right first. You can even run up from the docks while in your suit and poison him if you're going for SASO.
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Poison kills are considered accidents? That doesn't violate Silent Assassin?
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Mzbundifund posted:Poison kills are considered accidents? That doesn't violate Silent Assassin? They're not accidents as such, but they're non-suspicious. The target probably just had a heart condition or choked on something. So they're supposed to be ok for SA. They have been a bit wonky and unreliable in the past — in particular, people have reportedly failed getting SA if they get out too early — so while it kind of violates the point of setting up that kind of trap, it's almost worth sticking around to make sure no-one freaks out over it.
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I've seen escalations with the "target must die in an accident" condition fail if the target was lethally poisoned. I guess the game updates a poisoning death from non-accident to accident only if you get away with it?
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gtrmp posted:I've seen escalations with the "target must die in an accident" condition fail if the target was lethally poisoned. I guess the game updates a poisoning death from non-accident to accident only if you get away with it? Poison kill isn't an accident kill. Just for the purpose of Silent Assassin, they are functionally the same.
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Lethal poison injection isn't an accident. But if you stab them with an emetic and drown them in the toilet that is. You don't even have to get away with it for it to be an accident. Shooting a man in front of a dozen witnesses is murder. If you shoot the puddle of gasoline next to him and set off an explosion it's an accident, though those witnesses are still going to be freaking out. It's just a category of kills that includes falls and electrocutions and probably plenty others. So many leaky scooters in that first Sapienza escalation.
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frank.club posted:It worked when i loaded and auto save. Annoyingly that method kills more than the target every time! It loving sucks! I've had this game since release and I've never figured out a way to take out Novikoff on a SOSA. I guess I could just break down and watch a video I ended up blowing up an explosive canister as he walked through the doorway before his bodyguard followed him.
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So, the new one is good, right?
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Dec 24, 2016 12:10
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SplitSoul posted:So, the new one is good, right? as in, the entire Hitman game? Yes. It's very good. You should play it if you liked any of the pre-Absolution Hitman games because it's in that vein but expanded upon hugely.
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Me and Bangkok aren't getting along, I keep waiting for that moment all the levels have where they transform from impenetrable fortress to fantastic sandbox and it's just not coming - what am I missing?
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