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Mercrom posted:I like hurting others as much as anyone, but what's the point aside from getting an erection? Isn't democracy the real issue here? Why should these people have any kind of power? The point is making it clear that people who are fascists will get bashed in order to deter people from becoming fascists.
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Jan 22, 2017 16:08
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Yes, if only we had a means to use violence to deter and enforce a certain set of rules in society and groups of professionals who has worked for hundreds of years learning this strategy.
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Jan 22, 2017 16:12
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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/us/politics/richard-spencer-punched-attack.htmlquote:Mr. Spencer said he was worried about being attacked again. The guy who said we should seriously consider whether or not we need the "black race" is scared to leave his home to promote his ideology. Yep, gonna say that's a good thing.
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Jan 22, 2017 16:22
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Always punch Spencer
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Jan 22, 2017 16:28
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Oh no a meme - guy who used memes to elect his candidate president.
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Jan 22, 2017 16:31
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Constantly LARPing posted:https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/us/politics/richard-spencer-punched-attack.html i'm glad of it.
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Jan 22, 2017 16:52
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Lightning Knight posted:It shouldn't be legal. I for one look forward to an America where certain minority groups are OK to murder with a speech to the jury about jury nullification and a wink and a nod. "He carrying a sign advocating eliminating my race. Did you know that as the jury, and as members of the race he wanted to eliminate, you can vote not guilty if you don't think what I did was wrong?"
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Jan 22, 2017 16:54
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poor oppressed nazis :'(
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Jan 22, 2017 16:56
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Alan Smithee posted:Always punch Spencer yup
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Jan 22, 2017 17:12
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Mercrom posted:Yes, if only we had a means to use violence to deter and enforce a certain set of rules in society and groups of professionals who has worked for hundreds of years learning this strategy. Cops are just fascists with badges. Hope this helps.
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Jan 22, 2017 17:20
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Constantly LARPing posted:https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/us/politics/richard-spencer-punched-attack.html Does this guy refer to memes in every conversation?
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Jan 22, 2017 17:21
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rudatron posted:Wait, if op is obliquely referring to spencer being punched, that's not just 'you disagree with them'. Self defense is justified, and so is defense of another. You can't bitch and moan about free speech, when you're willing to selfishly deny the rights of others. Thanks for coming to your sense. people wanting to genocide people give me free reign to stand my ground against them and kick them in the nuts so hard they cant spread their rotten genes.
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Jan 22, 2017 17:21
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wizard on a water slide posted:It's good that the law and morality are two different things, because it should not be legal to assault people, but it is morally correct to assault Nazis. This. Punch a Nazi and go to jail for punching a Nazi if that's the price civil society requires of us in order to punch Nazis.
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Jan 22, 2017 17:30
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The Oldest Man posted:This. Punch a Nazi and go to jail for punching a Nazi if that's the price civil society requires of us in order to punch Nazis. It's also your duty as a good citizen to take all necessary steps to avoid punishment for punching said nazi, as by being imprisoned you only serve to prop up a for-profit prison system. Plus, uh, the prisons are kind of full of nazis.
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Jan 22, 2017 17:34
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wizard on a water slide posted:It's good that the law and morality are two different things, because it should not be legal to assault people, but it is morally correct to assault Nazis. Yep. I hope everyone punches a Nazis and doesn't get caught so they can go on to punch many more nazi's in the future.
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Jan 22, 2017 18:01
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rudatron posted:All lives are precious, please do not attack others unless you've run out of other options! I solve this problem by just never thinking of other options in the first place.
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Jan 22, 2017 18:04
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SSNeoman posted:Okay gently caress it this topic is a piece of poo poo anyway so I'll Yes their balls dropped. They're adults now and don't go for the 'I must be a stong man because I endorse violence by proxy' thing. It sounds like you don't understand puberty and that deflates your rhetoric. It either skipped you over or you are too young. Or you could be an alien with a bare patch, I don't know. Ok, that's an insensitive remark to make. I'll just assume you're not a real SS 'new' man but are in fact a hot-blooded woman who wants her 10 nazi scalps now, but must use feminine intuition to get them, which is to say by psychologically kicking men in the balls until they agree to do it for her. I could be wrong on all counts, maybe you have a complex viewpoint where non-violence is a sign of maturity but also of being a pussy?
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Jan 22, 2017 18:08
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Ytlaya posted:I solve this problem by just never thinking of other options in the first place.
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Jan 22, 2017 18:11
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Punching Nazis is really a half measure.
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Jan 22, 2017 18:12
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i like that most of the goons in favor of assaulting richard spencer are afraid to express that opinion in any way other than whiny sarcasm
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Jan 22, 2017 18:14
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serioustalk: i had no idea who richard spencer was until he got punched in the face, now suddenly i'm seeing him everywhere and he has a platform to play victim on and be listened to, because he got punched in the face i suspect i'm not the only person who learned about richard spencer this way what i'm saying is that punching people because you don't like their opinions seems pretty dumb and counterproductive, moral arguments notwithstanding
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Jan 22, 2017 18:17
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If you sympathize with Richard Spencer for getting punched in the face, that literally makes you a Nazi sympathizer. If you're okay with that, you should consider punching yourself in the face.
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Jan 22, 2017 18:17
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TomViolence posted:Treating politics like a sportsmanlike game is some crass poo poo when people's lives hang in the balance one day you will be out of your depth and you won't know how to politics about a particular issue and then a nazi will punch you in the face and install a dictatorship
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Jan 22, 2017 18:19
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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like be smart about it and smash a pie in his face instead of just using your fist, ffs
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Jan 22, 2017 18:21
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:serioustalk: i had no idea who richard spencer was until he got punched in the face, now suddenly i'm seeing him everywhere and he has a platform to play victim on and be listened to, because he got punched in the face He was already giving interviews on national television just a few months ago. He already had a platform. There is no such thing as premature anti-fascism.
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Jan 22, 2017 18:23
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blowfish posted:one day you will be out of your depth and you won't know how to politics about a particular issue and then a nazi will punch you in the face and install a dictatorship Nah 'cause I'll be next to TomViolence and I will inflict some violence upon said Nazi. And if not me, then somebody else, because we'll all have learned that punching Nazis is cool&good.
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Jan 22, 2017 18:25
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did he do anything at those interviews except look like a gross fuckin nazi who shouldn't be listened to
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Jan 22, 2017 18:25
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I don't think nazis hand-wring about the morality of violence when they attack people, nor are they really known for using pies. Intimidation works, nazis know it works, that's why they do it. It also works on nazis, same as anyone else.
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Jan 22, 2017 18:25
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:did he do anything at those interviews except look like a gross fuckin nazi who shouldn't be listened to He did enough for morons to handwring about how genocide is just a difference of opinion.
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Jan 22, 2017 18:26
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cool, he got listened to by people who think that opinions are the same as actions idg the threat
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Jan 22, 2017 18:27
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"The lives of minorities are really just a matter of opinion" - Very serious people who I'm sure will be very nice when their neighbors get dragged out of their homes
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Jan 22, 2017 18:29
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:cool, he got listened to by people who think that opinions are the same as actions Well if you think about it Hitler didn't really kill many people himself. He did sign lots of papers though.
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Jan 22, 2017 18:33
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well i mean if they think that lives are the same as opinions then i'm not sure they can comprehend news articles well enough to understand anything anyway
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Jan 22, 2017 18:33
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:serioustalk: i had no idea who richard spencer was until he got punched in the face, now suddenly i'm seeing him everywhere and he has a platform to play victim on and be listened to, because he got punched in the face yeah, i had never heard about this guy before
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Jan 22, 2017 18:34
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Constantly LARPing posted:https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/us/politics/richard-spencer-punched-attack.html It must sting to see meme magic work against him Also people should know who Spencer is so they know people like that exist. You can't solve a problem until you recognize it.
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Jan 22, 2017 18:35
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How do you guys feel about Illinois Nazis?
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Jan 22, 2017 18:37
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:It must sting to see meme magic work against him people aren't problems, yo maybe their opinions are lovely but opinions aren't problems either unless those opinions get acted on in a harmful way, then those actions do get pretty punchworthy no one's listened to a spencer interview and immediately gone and thrown all their jewish neighbors in a concentration camp afaik, could be wrong though, things can get pretty fuckin weird in the rednecky parts of the 'states
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Jan 22, 2017 18:40
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"Genocide is an opinion" - Moderate intellectuals
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Jan 22, 2017 18:41
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one is killing a shitload of people and one is making a shitload of posts on somethingawful
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Jan 22, 2017 18:43
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Like everytime someone says "you hit them because of their opinions" they earn another year in the future Alaskan gulag.
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