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April Fools was just awesome overall, like when I accidentally made Big Nothing an unkillable role-absorber but he got blown up by a lasagna bomb.
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CapitalistPig posted:Best mafia moment of all times imo. S C U M H U N T E R
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man, like SCUMHUNTER is the thing i look at where I am like "yeah, this one moment made everything about this stupid party game worth it"
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Feb 16, 2017 18:51
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Agreed. Scumhunter was amazing and then Burger wiping out 3/4 of the scumteam as a scum-aligned suicide bomb traitor makes that one of my favorite games ever.
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Feb 16, 2017 19:01
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My favorite mafia is Wild & Crazy Kids mafia.
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Feb 16, 2017 19:02
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Dynasty Warriors where I broke the setup by knowing too much about the flavor.
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https://twitter.com/waypoint/status/832243143269634048
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man, sometimes i am like "yeah i get why people find you annoying patrick klepek" but then he does things like this and i am like "yeah i like you still fella"
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Feb 16, 2017 19:20
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I like Patrick. Sometimes he rolls with the punches so much that he overcorrects hard and loses the thread of his actual audience (ie not the people who troll him endlessly on twitter) but overall he's cool and good.
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BottleKnight posted:My favorite mafia is Wild & Crazy Kids mafia. 
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Cops aren't great, but naive, insane and paranoid cops are worse imo I think anytime you try to trick the players it should be through setup extra expectations rather than stuff you're not telling them in their role pm
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Feb 16, 2017 20:20
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Asiina posted:I try to eliminate cops from my setups in favour of multiple trackers. I am vindicated
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Feb 16, 2017 20:27
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Oh hey mafia thread, I've got a question for you: Are "SCUM" and "NOT TOWN" interchangeable terms when it comes to cop results?
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Feb 16, 2017 20:28
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Nooooooooooooooooooo
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Rarity posted:Oh hey mafia thread, I've got a question for you: Nope! 3Ps are not scum but they are not town!
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Feb 16, 2017 20:29
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I played cop in a town of Salem game once and when I claimed a scum result on someone the town collectively melted down, lynched me, and then told me to learn how to play They didn't lynch the guy and then lost
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Feb 16, 2017 20:30
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Little Mac posted:I have a few:  https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3603270&pagenumber=51&perpage=40#post425416870
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Feb 16, 2017 20:30
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What I mean to say is that cops are fine because you'll never know just how to carry it
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Feb 16, 2017 20:30
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We don't fake claim enough on SA imo.
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Feb 16, 2017 20:32
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It depends on your set up which is more useful or whatever, but a game with 3Ps like survivor or whatever really makes the cops job harder if they're getting town/not town
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Feb 16, 2017 20:32
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Kashuno posted:Nope! 3Ps are not scum but they are not town! Ecco 
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I had a Magic School Bus role in Magic School Bus mafia the game had a different field trip each day, and the bus' powers would change based on the field trip. So, like, in the salmon field trip, the school bus was a tracker, and in the inside ralphie field trip, the schoolbus was a vig. It was JOAT ish, but the power used each night was based on the day flavor Of course, the bus was killed N1. I also had a 2 man scum team in 1400 Everet Way Mafia. Where the 1 half was a godfather ninja unconfirmed mason. And the other half was an unblockable usurper. They had a number of nightkills per night equal to the number of living scums. So, the usurper had to keep the godfather half around as long as possible to keep up with 2 night kills and also not get found out. I thought it was a fun dynamic. Also that game had the darkest flavor I've written for a mafia game. I remember feeling dirty writing some of it.
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Feb 16, 2017 20:35
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the best was the game I ran with no scum
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In mafia games there are two general categories of win conditions: town and scum. The two win conditions are mutually exclusive to one another: scum win when the town is defeated (usually phrased as "unassailable dominance over the vote"), and town win when the scum are defeated (usually phrased as "all threats to the town are eliminated," or just straight-up "when all scum are gone" [i.e. when all roles whose victory precludes the town winning are gone]). There can be subsets to the scum win condition - different scum factions, for instance, which preclude each other from winning but all share the goal of dominating the town - but the town alignment is unitary. Win conditions beyond "all scum must die" make the player, strictly-speaking, no longer town. Win conditions that are not strictly town or scum (though by scum we usually mean a team of scum players, aka the eponymous "mafia") are called Third Parties. (We usually lump in SKs as 3Ps instead of scum, which is not strictly accurate.) Third parties typically are unconstrained by the town-scum dynamic, and can generally "win" a game regardless of whether the scum or town ultimately prevail. For instance, I ran a game once with a "lyncher" (ugly word), who won the game when a specific player was executed. The lyncher claimed to be a cop, and the town spent much of its resources hunting down the lyncher's target, only to discover that they had been deceived - the victory or defeat of the lyncher was irrelevant to the victory or defeat of the scum. Translating these situations to cop results is difficult, because cops results are binary. You get a "GOOD" result for players whose interests are not exclusive to the town's, and you get a "BAD" result for players whose interests are exclusive from the town's. How those cop's results are phrased matters, since "NOT TOWN" does not mean the same thing as "SCUM," just as "NOT SCUM" does not mean the same thing as "NOT TOWN." If a cop is told their results return "SCUM/TOWN," then those are the only results they will get. If a player has a strange alignment or otherwise beyond the scum/town dichotomy, they will sometimes be told how cops will perceive them - whether cops will get "GOOD" results or "BAD" results. Sometimes a mod might make the cop's results "TOWN/NOT TOWN" to address this potential situation. If a player is told they are a miller, they have no right to complain when cops investigate them as "SCUM."
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EccoRaven posted:If a player is told they are a miller, they have no right to complain when cops investigate them as "SCUM." They do if the mod specifically tells them they'll investigate as "NOT TOWN"
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Rarity posted:They do if the mod specifically tells them they'll investigate as "NOT TOWN" You were told cops would get "NOT TOWN" results; the cop was told he only received "TOWN/SCUM" results. It was a very minor misleading bit of information in your role PMs that ultimately doesn't matter because you were millers, you should never have been surprised you'd get SCUM results against you. It should have caused you to go "oh, yeah, that's right, everything about the game is designed to make the town think we're scum, including this minor bit of conflicting information" and you moved on. I suppose I could have just said "whatever cops get as the BAD result, you will come up with that BAD result!", but that sounds like something a child would say.
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Feb 16, 2017 20:53
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Joke's on you if you take your pm at face value in Ecco games
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We can analyze this in my new game Gashapon Mafia https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3809823
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I always liked my JoJo version of a daycop:quote:You are... D'Arby the Player! He ended up getting lynched since people just didn't believe the claim.
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Feb 16, 2017 21:17
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My other favorite role is the other D'Arbyquote:You are... D'Arby the Gambler!
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Bifauxnen posted:My other favorite role is the other D'Arby that was the best outcome
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I just reread magic schoolbus mafia. I like that game. It was a fun game.
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I should mod another game. Look for Wishbone Mafia coming soon.
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GulagDolls posted:
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Having now seen all the jojos anime seasons Bif I am DYING for DU mafia. Idk how you could make Bite The Dust work but just cut it if you need to aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Rarity posted:Oh hey mafia thread, I've got a question for you: It can be. You were told you investigate as NOT TOWN, The cop got TOWN/SCUM results,and got back SCUM. So that is the not TOWN result. You can keep complaining about a game where you won and also didn't get executed if you want, but the it is all consistent. Cop results can also be more just binary, if the mod chooses.
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Jonathan Fisk posted:I played cop in a town of Salem game once and when I claimed a scum result on someone the town collectively melted down, lynched me, and then told me to learn how to play Obviously your cop claim was actually a fake jester claim that would be revealed by your target's town flip. Lrn2play
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Jonathan Fisk posted:I played cop in a town of Salem game once and when I claimed a scum result on someone the town collectively melted down, lynched me, and then told me to learn how to play You mean the game where you claimed to be a cop, then took it back, then said you were a cop again and couldn't help but drop the R word constantly And Town won. Unless you are talking about a different game.
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Kashuno posted:Having now seen all the jojos anime seasons Bif I am DYING for DU mafia. Idk how you could make Bite The Dust work but just cut it if you need to aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Even if I had it all set up today, I probably would have to wait for the holidays again to have time to run it. Maybe I would have to cut Bites the Dust but I hope I can pay tribute to it in at least some way. And Kira has to be in the game this time instead of an NPC cause come on, he is literally a serial killer trying to go unnoticed in the town.
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