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I really enjoyed SGU, and was disappointed in only got two seasons. I'm probably in the minority but I enjoyed how they were discovering different parts of Destiny. That was what got me hooked on the show. Going to different planets etc via the Stargates to fix/solve the issues they were having on the ship I liked, otherwise it may as well have just been the original series where they go to a different planet each episode. However having said that I never watched Atlantis so I can onlycompare it SGU to SG1. Man, I want another SG show. I guess I have the benefit of being able to watch Atlantis to scratch that itch.
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Finding new parts of the place and solving new problems with the place is like half or more of Atlantis so I'd suggest you watch it! Stargate shows are almost always about solving Space Problems and that's what makes me like them, I think.
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Jan 11, 2017 11:46
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I think you'd really like Atlantis then. The first few seasons were about them stranded in the unknown far from home with only little understanding of the technology they had at their disposal. They often explore planets blindly too. So it's similar to SGU in that sense, though it's certainly a lot more campy (the good kind) and very funny/charming. Great character dynamics, particularly with Sheppard and McKay. Do yourself a favor and watch it now. freeranger posted:I really enjoyed SGU, and was disappointed in only got two seasons.
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Jan 11, 2017 19:41
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So over the last couple of months I've been rewatching SG-1 from the beginning and I've got to say I'm enjoying it way more than I thought I would. I haven't watched the series since it was on, and I liked it then, but I really appreciate it now. I think my favorite part is how not stuffy and serious it is. I mean you get that with some episodes here and there, which is great, but I love the sense of fun the show embodies.
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Mar 8, 2017 03:26
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Kwatz posted:So over the last couple of months I've been rewatching SG-1 from the beginning and I've got to say I'm enjoying it way more than I thought I would. I haven't watched the series since it was on, and I liked it then, but I really appreciate it now. I think my favorite part is how not stuffy and serious it is. I mean you get that with some episodes here and there, which is great, but I love the sense of fun the show embodies. The Stargate team dynamic is probably the closest any show has got to recreating the classic Star Trek Kirk/Spock/Bones feel.
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Mar 8, 2017 03:49
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Senor Tron posted:The Stargate team dynamic is probably the closest any show has got to recreating the classic Star Trek Kirk/Spock/Bones feel. Indeed.
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Mar 8, 2017 05:40
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Kwatz posted:So over the last couple of months I've been rewatching SG-1 from the beginning and I've got to say I'm enjoying it way more than I thought I would. I haven't watched the series since it was on, and I liked it then, but I really appreciate it now. I think my favorite part is how not stuffy and serious it is. I mean you get that with some episodes here and there, which is great, but I love the sense of fun the show embodies. They nailed the casting to perfection. RDA was a loving triumph in the early seasons when they had lovely writing and dumb plot ideas. His portrayal of the "captain" role role was incredible and he held back on raw emotion and anger so well that when he did let it out it impacted like a bomb. It's so weird how successful SG1 and the franchise was. The entire beginning of the show was basically "We own this movie, make a show off it" and the writers basically sat in a room and had to create the entire thing from scratch in a very tight time frame. Everything from the Gouald, the Jaffa, the gate functions etc. was crafted during a few intense brainstorming sessions in the rush to make the show work.
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Mar 8, 2017 05:55
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The Atlantis cast had a really rough start but the Shephard/McKay team was loving amazing.
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pentyne posted:It's so weird how successful SG1 and the franchise was. The entire beginning of the show was basically "We own this movie, make a show off it" and the writers basically sat in a room and had to create the entire thing from scratch in a very tight time frame. Everything from the Gouald, the Jaffa, the gate functions etc. was crafted during a few intense brainstorming sessions in the rush to make the show work. SG-1 picked up where Star Trek (especially DS9) left off - it's a team of lovable quirky professionals out exploring a big and dangerous galaxy. The timing couldn't have been more perfect. I've only seen the first couple of seasons but I can say that I keep watching because of the chemistry and dynamic between the characters. The ongoing plot is great, too, and they don't dump it on you - you get it piece by piece. Really need to get back to watching this show, but that means I have to pay for Hulu again.
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Mar 8, 2017 06:15
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Rhyno posted:The Atlantis cast had a really rough start but the Shephard/McKay team was loving amazing. I've begun watching this again and I'm on season 2 where they get rid of boring Ford in favour of Ronon. He isn't great but still an improvement over Ford. And the Shephard/McKay interactions are getting good.
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Zurui posted:The ongoing plot is great, too, and they don't dump it on you - you get it piece by piece. Thats one of the things I really love about the series. It took 5 seasons to off Apophis. The Asgard aren't constantly around, yet their plot line is always being pushed forward. It's a pretty impressive mix of stand alone and serialized plots.
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Mar 8, 2017 14:43
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EvilTaytoMan posted:I've begun watching this again and I'm on season 2 where they get rid of boring Ford in favour of Ronon. He isn't great but still an improvement over Ford. And the Shephard/McKay interactions are getting good. I think it's honestly a combo of having a more defined role as the 'brute' of the team, and Momoa is just a more charismatic and confident actor than Francks.
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Mar 8, 2017 15:56
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Having a defined role of anything would have helped Ford's character.
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Mar 8, 2017 17:56
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8one6 posted:Having a defined role of anything would have helped Ford's character. I think he was supposed to be the rookie who was jazzed to be in space, but that's a limited role when the season arc was "AHHHHH SPACE VAMPIRES RUNNNN!"
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Mar 8, 2017 18:38
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One of my fav episodes is the exploding tumor one because of the scenes of the team just relaxing and doing whatever. I want to see more of Ronan and Shepard playing golf.
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Mar 8, 2017 21:35
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Mu Zeta posted:One of my fav episodes is the exploding tumor one because of the scenes of the team just relaxing and doing whatever. I want to see more of Ronan and Shepard playing golf. 
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Mar 8, 2017 23:28
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Mu Zeta posted:One of my fav episodes is the exploding tumor one because of the scenes of the team just relaxing and doing whatever. I want to see more of Ronan and Shepard playing golf. That was a pretty good ep until the exploding tumor poo poo happened.
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Mar 9, 2017 15:18
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McSpanky posted:That was a pretty good ep until the exploding tumor poo poo happened. As I've said 1,000 times. I quit watching Atlantis after that loving exploding tumor. I know I missed a lot of good stuff, but it just made me so angry. Like Dr. Frasier had a lovely send-off episode. I know the producers wanted to show the audience that poo poo is real up in Atlantis, anything can happen. BAM! Didn't see that coming, did you? But, gently caress them anyway.
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Mar 9, 2017 15:27
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The CGI was also so, so bad. Like below average even for a show like this at the time.
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Mar 9, 2017 16:04
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Aleph Null posted:As I've said 1,000 times. I quit watching Atlantis after that loving exploding tumor. I know I missed a lot of good stuff, but it just made me so angry. Like Dr. Frasier had a lovely send-off episode. I know the producers wanted to show the audience that poo poo is real up in Atlantis, anything can happen. BAM! Didn't see that coming, did you? But, gently caress them anyway. I forget, did the exploding tumour happen to the real Dr Beckett, or the clone?
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Mar 9, 2017 17:07
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I enjoyed Atlantis a lot but I never felt like it had an entirely coherent overall narrative. Didn't really have an ending either. Just sort of stopped rather than ended. It's like X-Files in that the mostly standalone episodes tended to be better.
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Mar 9, 2017 17:18
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One of the things about SGU that annoyed me was that they have SGA characters guest star in an episode and they never mention what happened to Atlantis after it landed in San Francisco. Not even a throwaway line saying that it's being studied or whatever.
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Mar 9, 2017 17:44
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Wheat Loaf posted:I enjoyed Atlantis a lot but I never felt like it had an entirely coherent overall narrative. Didn't really have an ending either. Just sort of stopped rather than ended. They were promised a movie that never happened.
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Mar 9, 2017 17:47
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EvilTaytoMan posted:One of the things about SGU that annoyed me was that they have SGA characters guest star in an episode and they never mention what happened to Atlantis after it landed in San Francisco. Not even a throwaway line saying that it's being studied or whatever. Did anyone other than Rodney show up?
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Mar 9, 2017 17:49
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Well technically Carter was in Atlantis for a while. Maybe the Russian scientist?
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Woosley.
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EvilTaytoMan posted:I forget, did the exploding tumour happen to the real Dr Beckett, or the clone? The real one, people were so pissed off at his death was why they wrote in the clones.
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Mar 9, 2017 18:00
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I liked that Beckett died in a notably stupid and ignominious way because the actor's insultingly bad accent deserved it. Also Ronon was pretty poo poo. Just another in the franchise's increasingly questionable series of Brown Action Guy™. Teal'c was at least interesting in terms of his depth, but having every series main-cast minority character be a hyper-lethal 'cool' barbarian was very hosed up. And they degenerate over time as well. Teal'c has a strong backstory and set of motivations. Teyla and that guy who got written out were both dead-ends which resulted in Ronon being introduced. Ronon's character motivation is OCD as expressed by a need to reload a gun that doesn't need reloading. And then finally we get to the Sergeant from SG:U who is nothing but irrational, unquestioning, murderous psychosis on legs. Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Mar 9, 2017 |
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Mar 9, 2017 18:01
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:I liked that Beckett died in a notably stupid and ignominious way because the actor's insultingly bad accent deserved it. Beckett's actor is Scottish though. Maybe he played it up a bit but it's not like it's all faked. I do agree Ronon is a poor man's Teal'c though.
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Mar 9, 2017 18:38
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Beckett's actor is Scottish though. Maybe he played it up a bit but it's not like it's all faked. He's dual Scottish/Canadian IIRC, but has no scottish accent IRL.
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Mar 9, 2017 18:42
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:He's dual Scottish/Canadian IIRC, but has no scottish accent IRL. I stand corrected. I've definitely heard more obnoxious-sounding real scottish accents than his though so I still don't really have a problem with it.
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Mar 9, 2017 18:45
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A genuine obnoxious accent is still authentic though. His one was bad almost to the degree of deliberate mockery. That he did it for years without improving it, let alone that he wasn't embarrassed to do it in the first place, is incredibly damning of his work ethic as an actor
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Mar 9, 2017 20:27
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EvilTaytoMan posted:One of the things about SGU that annoyed me was that they have SGA characters guest star in an episode and they never mention what happened to Atlantis after it landed in San Francisco. Not even a throwaway line saying that it's being studied or whatever. That's because it would have caused WW3. A city full of loving technology that would advance your country 10,000 years instantly. And you think the Russians/Chinese would just say 'sure let the US have it'. The US wouldn't allow a few thousand foreign scientists crawl over it, esp as there could be hidden weapons they could detonate or trigger. The nukes would have started flying to capture San Francisco within a week.
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Mar 9, 2017 20:40
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happyhippy posted:That's because it would have caused WW3. But they completely ignore it in SGU.
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I think the producers have said that the movie was going to end with them being forced to take the city back to Pegasus or it would explode.
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happyhippy posted:That's because it would have caused WW3. The atlantis project was a civilian oversight one with a multinational crew, the US wouldn't have really been able to try to keep it to themselves. The russians had, or used to have, X303s and all that so it's not as if the tech from the gate program and Atlantis was a great big secret anyway. Letting the world's scientists pour over Atlantis would have let Earth as a planet figure out what all the junk on it was way faster and get them in shape for all the evil asgard or the energy beings or whatever was in SGU I forget.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:A genuine obnoxious accent is still authentic though. His one was bad almost to the degree of deliberate mockery. That he did it for years without improving it, let alone that he wasn't embarrassed to do it in the first place, is incredibly damning of his work ethic as an actor Real Scottish accents are completely unintelligible. Hollywood Scottish exists as a result.
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Rhyno posted:I think the producers have said that the movie was going to end with them being forced to take the city back to Pegasus or it would explode. This is what I understood as well, yet another ill-conceived and dangerous decision made by those arrogant dick head Ancients!
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IRQ posted:The atlantis project was a civilian oversight one with a multinational crew, the US wouldn't have really been able to try to keep it to themselves. The russians had, or used to have, X303s and all that so it's not as if the tech from the gate program and Atlantis was a great big secret anyway. Letting the world's scientists pour over Atlantis would have let Earth as a planet figure out what all the junk on it was way faster and get them in shape for all the evil asgard or the energy beings or whatever was in SGU I forget. Which one had space corn?
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Gelf posted:This is what I understood as well, yet another ill-conceived and dangerous decision made by those arrogant dick head Ancients! My very favorite is still the $ULTIMATE_POWER_SOURCE with an overload response of: venting energy into a weapon that flails about wildly, firing at any and all detected objects. Including friendly Atlantean vessels because I guess IFF isn't a thing.
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