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Aphrodite posted:So who's fired? Sami's almost-main-but-not-really event spot.
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Mar 14, 2017 13:56
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achillesforever6 posted:I think the problem with that ending segment last night, was that HHH should have let Seth beat him up and then next week HHH should have stood tall
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Aphrodite posted:So who's fired? the fans
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:Triple Haitch is building new talent for the future And Taker And Shane And Himself Also Seth is going to stand tall next week and HHH will win at wrestlemania. DoctorGonzo fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Mar 14, 2017 |
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Mar 14, 2017 14:00
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I imagine Sting hopes they both kill each other.
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Blaise330 posted:I imagine Sting hopes they both kill each other. Me too.
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Mar 14, 2017 14:21
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Its cool that they had one of the greatest of all time come out and tell Roman that everyone hates him just like everyone hated politicking pillhead Shawn twenty years ago. I did not expect that as part of the build.
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achillesforever6 posted:I think the problem with that ending segment last night, was that HHH should have let Seth beat him up and then next week HHH should have stood tall That sounds like it would be fun. Allowing Seth to triumphantly return and surprised HHH would be a nice change. HHH can make a gameplan with time, but having a weakness to being surprised would be consistent character development. Nope, Hun-Torr was in effect. DoctorGonzo posted:Also Seth is going to stand tall next week and HHH will win at wrestlemania. HAHA HA! Here's a trick HHH learned years ago: convince people that it will build heat to have him look stronger on TV, so that it's all the sweeter and bigger payoff when he loses at PPV. Except way less people watch PPV, and often one win doesn't cancel out 4 weeks of getting your rear end kicked, but HHH convinces the writers/other wrestlers every time.
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projecthalaxy posted:Its cool that they had one of the greatest of all time come out and tell Roman that everyone hates him just like everyone hated politicking pillhead Shawn twenty years ago. I did not expect that as part of the build. Hope he ran into Foley backstage. "Man this time of year sure is crazy. Hey remember that time you could have main evented wrestlemania if it wasn't for me? Good times, ah well, god bless *walks off*"
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Wazzu posted:but HHH convinces the writers/other wrestlers every time. HHH doesnt need to convince anyone. He is Stephanie trophy husband. BUT HE WON THE MONDAY NIGHTS WARS AND HE IS BETTER THAN SHAWN!
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Mar 14, 2017 15:28
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Chris James 2 posted:O/U 2 Styles Clashes Shane kicks out of under on the second one, he'll tuck his head and AJ will get blamed for it.
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"Ok so Mick puts you in the mandible claw and the Stephanie hits him in the dick." "Alright and then?" "You're beating him up." "I like this, keep going." "Seth Rollins returns and fights you off, saving Mick." "Ok and then what?" "You roll out of the ring looking angry at Seth for beating you." "Yeah alright and then?" "And then the show ends?" "And then?" "Ok instead of the show ending you get a weapon and beat everyone up and you're the king of kings." "Hell yeah now we got a show!" This is how it went in my head.
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sportsgenius86 posted:on the second one, he'll tuck his head and AJ will get blamed for it. just lol if AJ kills shane this way while having saved ellsworth from this
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DoctorGonzo posted:HHH doesnt need to convince anyone. He is Stephanie trophy husband. he has way more titles so he's obviously superior
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Just defeated the djinn and cancelled out Yennfer's last wish, had Geralt tell her he doesn't have feelings for her anymore and now I feel like a MAJOR dick.
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CobiWann posted:Just defeated the djinn and cancelled out Yennfer's last wish, had Geralt tell her he doesn't have feelings for her anymore and now I feel like a MAJOR dick. No one cares
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Did anyone else get the sense that Seth was teasing the curbstomp during that closing angle? I figured he'd at least try and hook Hunter for the Pedigree and Steph would kick him in the dick so her hubby could escape, but nope, lots of gesturing for jumps and hitting the ropes... (Maybe Trips realised he's booked himself into a paradox where he either has to let himself kick out of the Pedigree, the most powerful move in wrestling, or lose clean to it)sportsgenius86 posted:under Doubt it, the second will probably be off the turnbuckle, so less risk. CobiWann posted:Just defeated the djinn and cancelled out Yennfer's last wish, had Geralt tell her he doesn't have feelings for her anymore and now I feel like a MAJOR dick. That is one of my favourite conversations in any video game because it's not typical Bioware romance stuff where you dump someone and they shrug it off, she's loving heartbroken and lets you know it.
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I love how last night Graves discussed the phenemonen of Roman having an awesome match and people reacting viscerally to him being a great talent in the ring before it sinks in that oh my god this booking is loving awful! and everybody goes back to booing. They're soooooo close to realizing what gently caress-ups they are but that last bit of self-awareness eludes them.
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I truly don't think Roman has awesome matches. He has very competent matches where the overly planned spots are usually kind of interesting, but Roman even though he can work has nothing interesting about him. He isn't technical, he isn't high flying, he isn't even that strong. He just knows how to hit his spots. Not to mention that his spots are boring as poo poo.
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The_Rob posted:I truly don't think Roman has awesome matches. He has very competent matches where the overly planned spots are usually kind of interesting, but Roman even though he can work has nothing interesting about him. He isn't technical, he isn't high flying, he isn't even that strong. He just knows how to hit his spots. Not to mention that his spots are boring as poo poo. From day one on the main roster he's been ridiculously protected and had his hand held. In the 4+ years he's been on the main roster nearly all of his matches have been against well-established talents (Bryan, Sheamus, Cena, Orton, HHH, Brock, etc) and many of them in multi-man matches where he could let Dean and Seth carry him. When he does have matches against the lower card guys like the PTP or Jinder or whoever they usually end up looking pretty bad but at least he can, as you said, hit his spots in a big man match with Braun or whoever. Considering who he's been able to work with it's a bit of a shock that he hasn't really shown much improvement over the last 3 years.
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The_Rob posted:I truly don't think Roman has awesome matches. He has very competent matches where the overly planned spots are usually kind of interesting, but Roman even though he can work has nothing interesting about him. He isn't technical, he isn't high flying, he isn't even that strong. He just knows how to hit his spots. Not to mention that his spots are boring as poo poo. I agree completely. He's also not very fluid in the ring, he looks very stiff and awkward.
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The_Rob posted:I truly don't think Roman has awesome matches. He has very competent matches where the overly planned spots are usually kind of interesting, but Roman even though he can work has nothing interesting about him. He isn't technical, he isn't high flying, he isn't even that strong. He just knows how to hit his spots. Not to mention that his spots are boring as poo poo. This is the big thing. They're trying to do the same thing they did with Cena with Reigns but there are reasons it can't and won't work unless Reigns has a magical leap forward. Cena was over as a singles guy, with face and heel runs, before his big run as champion where he started getting the big negative reactions. And a big thing about Cena that kept him on top was how masterfully he dealt with those split and outright negative reactions. And it ended up becoming kind of his thing. Reigns was never over as a singles guy before his big championship run. He was over as a part of Shield certainly, and it's like they took him from that and threw him right into the championship mix. So he never really had to prove before that that he could do singles runs and get over that way. And that to me is a big reason he's tanking now. Hitting those spots well and nothing else was a fine way of doing things in the Shield, since he didn't have to sell the group on his own and the other two guys compensated where he failed. Now they just have him doing those same spots and beating everyone and "looking strong" and thinking he'll just get over. But he won't until he learns how to be able to get people really into him.
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e: ^^^ and I know it was Kurt Angle and all, but John Cena in his first match on the main roster showed more ability to work than Roman Reigns ever has by a fair margin. Reigns isn't bad my any means, but his "match" is getting stale already and a lot of his praise comes from the fact that he's surrounded by a sea of poo poo oftentimes. It's not super hard to look like you're having a great match when you're in the only match of a 3-4 hour show not booked like total poo poo.
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Roman can put on a good 3.5 star match every time but he never elevates it beyond that regardless of meltzer's opinions
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Jim Ross wants Roman to turn heel at Wrestlemania, like most people do. He thinks it will help him be a better face later.quote:"Well, the smart answer is, ‘where are you going with it?’ If you’re trying to make Reigns and you make a commitment to make him a villain, let’s say, and I know WWE doesn’t like to have this dialogue much because they seem to be very hellbent that he’s going to be their next big fan favorite star. I can help you get to the next big fan favorite star scenario. It’s very easy. You let him turn heel blatantly with a cheat-to-win move, low blowish-type thing, against Undertaker and beat Undertaker, so you cheat to beat the great Undertaker at WrestleMania.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Roman can put on a good 3.5 star match every time but he never elevates it beyond that regardless of meltzer's opinions Yeah that's exactly it. There aren't any Roman matches I'll ever go back and watch. He can go in there and do his job and that's about it, and I'd be ok with that if he had an interesting personality or something. Mediocre wrestlers get over on pure personality all the time, but he has nothing to latch on to other than he's booked to be the strongest.
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Even if Roman could put on an amazing match, he's just not interesting in the slightest. And can't get enough of the crowd behind him.
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His matches are good but irl he comes across as a dork who takes himself too seriously and I think that bleeds into his character
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Undertaker should take Roman for a bike ride to Death Valley.
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I'm watching my DVR'ed Raw right now and just got to the Roman match/segment. It's clear that literally all of his problems stem from one simple thing: he has no personality/originality. He comes off as a dude crisply going through his spots during matches and he comes off as a dude reading a lovely script during his promos. I really don't think he's going to be any more interesting as a heel. Dude is just a dullard. EDIT: Hahaha. Roman getting wrecked by Braun was loving hilarious. Also, they reminded me that Roman may retire the Undertaker and how much it will piss me off if they do that without ever giving us the Cena/Taker Mania match. DeepDickPizza fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Mar 14, 2017 |
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Chris James 2 posted:O/U 2 Styles Clashes Shane kicks out of 2 styles clashes, 2 calf crushers, and somehow he counters a phenomenal forearm with a coast-2-coast. I'd say throw a gallows and anderson interference in too but eh, I think WWE forgot about the club when they didn't have all 3 of them celebrate having championships during the royal rumble.
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Blaise330 posted:somehow he counters a phenomenal forearm with a coast-2-coast I'd like to witness the gravitational singularity that makes this possible, too
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Watching the final segment now, and god drat HHH and Stephanie are awful shits.
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Chris James 2 posted:At least Reigns can sell? reigns is exceptionally good, the only problem with him as a wrestler is his insanely stale character and booking
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Under the vegetable posted:reigns is exceptionally good, the only problem with him as a wrestler is his insanely stale character and booking And also him being uninteresting in every way possible.
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The_Rob posted:Yeah that's exactly it. There aren't any Roman matches I'll ever go back and watch. He can go in there and do his job and that's about it, and I'd be ok with that if he had an interesting personality or something. Mediocre wrestlers get over on pure personality all the time, but he has nothing to latch on to other than he's booked to be the strongest. Not even the iconic Roman Reigns Participates in a Battle Royale?
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