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Rangpur posted:Is there any work on the YorHa Betrayers questline being bugged? I found a pair of them at one of the marked locations, but there doesn't seem to be anything at the other two. What gives? It was the same for me. I had to reload the area and then I found them on the rooftop.
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Late route A spoilers and also Drakengard: Someone having mentioned the fuckery with Drakengard 3's boss fight prompted me to watch some youtube videos of the Drakengard endings, and I find it interesting that in the E ending, the dragon asks if Tokyo is the land of the gods. Makes me reconsider what the machine cult was talking about when wanting to "become as gods," and this being prompted by their prophet guy dying.
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Mar 19, 2017 18:17
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I think the deal with the machine cult is actually (Fire of Prometheus novella spoilers) that they're trying to emulate Beepy who's mentioned as a god in the first picture book segment. He too "died" slain by Nier and restored himself, evolving until he became a machine god and left the planet along with his followers. The torches could be a very literal Promethean reference.
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Mar 19, 2017 18:22
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ghostinmyshell posted:I'm seeing pod only with anyone playing on Hard. The guy actually just managed to clip his way into the Elevator in the Sunken City that you can't access. Unfortunately it ended up just softlocking since he couldn't do anything or leave
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Mar 19, 2017 18:34
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Route B was much shorter for me, because I had done most of the sidequests I could and the general futzing around exploration in Route A, but obviously if you do do those sidequests or explore a lot looking for locked chests then it'll be longer. I'm a scrub though who likes exploring but hates scouring areas for specific super duper hidden poo poo so I just looked up lists of weapons and intel or whatever. ... also my route A playtime was longer than it needed to be because I did a bunch of sidequests before unlocking fast travel.
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Mar 19, 2017 18:43
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:The guy actually just managed to clip his way into the Elevator in the Sunken City that you can't access. Unfortunately it ended up just softlocking since he couldn't do anything or leave Seems rather convenient it keeps hims out of bounds when he falls into a bottomless hole. Ahaha that item sitting in space....
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Mar 19, 2017 18:47
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I beat the game for the first time today and started a new game. I didn't buy the weapons from Devola/Popola and probably missed a bunch of other stuff, like bringing a photo of a flower. Am I screwed? I thought the game would keep track of my side quest progress but it started over. Should I try to get all side quests on my second playthrough?
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Mar 19, 2017 19:04
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Renoistic posted:I beat the game for the first time today and started a new game. I didn't buy the weapons from Devola/Popola and probably missed a bunch of other stuff. Am I screwed? I thought the game would keep track of my side quest progress but it started over. Should I try to get all side quests on my second playthrough? you can only miss one thing in the whole game, don't worry
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Mar 19, 2017 19:07
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Renoistic posted:I beat the game for the first time today and started a new game. I didn't buy the weapons from Devola/Popola and probably missed a bunch of other stuff. Am I screwed? I thought the game would keep track of my side quest progress but it started over. Should I try to get all side quests on my second playthrough? No.
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Renoistic posted:I beat the game for the first time today and started a new game. I didn't buy the weapons from Devola/Popola and probably missed a bunch of other stuff. Am I screwed? I thought the game would keep track of my side quest progress but it started over. Should I try to get all side quests on my second playthrough? Everything carries over if you start by loading your game clear file.
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Mar 19, 2017 19:07
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Okay, cool. Thanks 😊
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Mar 19, 2017 19:21
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Rangpur posted:Is there any work on the YorHa Betrayers questline being bugged? I found a pair of them at one of the marked locations, but there doesn't seem to be anything at the other two. What gives? You have to do them in the right order I think. I found them on a building rooftop, then the next spot was another roof - this one bugged for me after I beat them (one of them fell off the roof and got stuck) and had to reload to get them to show up at the third location.
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Mar 19, 2017 19:35
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Papercut posted:You have to do them in the right order I think. I found them on a building rooftop, then the next spot was another roof - this one bugged for me after I beat them (one of them fell off the roof and got stuck) and had to reload to get them to show up at the third location. Hmm. I first saw them at the factory, then on the starting building. Just the two encounters. I think there's some story gating to it also.
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Mar 19, 2017 19:50
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I'm done route C and need help with Emil's final quest, I have completed Emil's memories and picked up Emil's Mask but when I speak with him on the surface he's not progressing the quest line. Have anyone else experienced this issue?
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Corte posted:I'm done route C and need help with Emil's final quest, I have completed Emil's memories and picked up Emil's Mask but when I speak with him on the surface he's not progressing the quest line. Have anyone else experienced this issue? It's not really an official quest so you won't get a pop up but if he talks about there being lovely people who steal, you can go back down and unlock his chest and fight him not sure what the issue is if that isn't happening, barring a chapter select resetting things between stealing the mask and talking to him again
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Mar 19, 2017 19:59
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Man, got the little title/semi-credits pop in after the introish portion of route C... and wow... That was quite a way to make it clear that the route won't be much like the previous ones.
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Mar 19, 2017 20:03
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Manatee Cannon posted:you can only miss one thing in the whole game, don't worry What is the missable thing?
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Mar 19, 2017 20:26
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Ekusukariba posted:What is the missable thing? ending y. if you beat the second bonus boss without getting the bad end, its locked off.
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Mar 19, 2017 20:34
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Ekusukariba posted:What is the missable thing? Ending Y, it's a very very endgame thing. Details: When you get all weapons to rank 4, you unlock a quest. this quest is a boss fight. when you finish the boss, let it self destruct. if you interrupt the self destruct, you finish the quest and it can't be repeated.
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Mar 19, 2017 20:35
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Ekusukariba posted:What is the missable thing? You can miss out on a pod upgrade chip. S size I think. Or at least I wasn't able to get it after unlocking chapter select.
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Mar 19, 2017 20:38
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:The guy actually just managed to clip his way into the Elevator in the Sunken City that you can't access. Unfortunately it ended up just softlocking since he couldn't do anything or leave He just hit another soft lock and had to restart the game trying to break into the Copied City for sequence breaking. Looks like skipping Grun is not gonna happen unless something creative happens.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:You can miss out on a pod upgrade chip. S size I think. Or at least I wasn't able to get it after unlocking chapter select. Pretty sure you can get multiples of this from the golden stubbies in the city ruins (can't speak for its other locations), though I can't remember if they keep spawning if you complete the event series. I definitely have more than I can use on my 100% save.
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Mar 19, 2017 20:43
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Pretty sure you can get multiples of this from the golden stubbies in the city ruins (can't speak for its other locations), though I can't remember if they keep spawning if you complete the event series. I definitely have more than I can use on my 100% save. Yea I never saw them again after completing the questline. Or maybe the spawn is really rare. Didn't worry me too much, but others may care.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/ollieb...d/#5bfd2f5134ec havent read this interview fully yet so can't guarantee spoiler free Yoko Taro posted:“It started when I was in limbo after being fired from Sony Computer Entertainment. My friend Mr. Iwasaki, who was the producer, invited me asking, “Won’t you be the art director for this project I just started?” The original plan was for Iwasaki-san to be the director but I took up that role mid-project since he became too busy.” Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Mar 19, 2017 |
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Mar 19, 2017 20:49
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so weird question, but would anyone happen to know if there is a 3d render of emils head online somewhere?
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So, I have an odd question for those of you with any knowledge of Japanese. (Route B spoilers) So, when 9S is trapped in his own mind or whatever and Adam is messing with him, Adam says something along the lines of "You're thinking about how much you want to **** 2b , aren't you?". I assumed the point of that statement was that **** could stand for both "gently caress" or "kill", since they're both four letter words and fit into the weird sex-and-violence themes that the game has going, like with the strangling scene. But the game is Japanese, which makes me wonder - what was that line in the original Japanese text? Having **** stand for either word only works in English. Do they do something similar, or did it perhaps turn out that they were explicitly referring to one word, not both?
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Zinkraptor posted:So, I have an odd question for those of you with any knowledge of Japanese. (Route B spoilers) So, when 9S is trapped in his own mind or whatever and Adam is messing with him, Adam says something along the lines of "You're thinking about how much you want to **** 2b , aren't you?". I assumed the point of that statement was that **** could stand for both "gently caress" or "kill", since they're both four letter words and fit into the weird sex-and-violence themes that the game has going, like with the strangling scene. But the game is Japanese, which makes me wonder - what was that line in the original Japanese text? Having **** stand for either word only works in English. Do they do something similar, or did it perhaps turn out that they were explicitly referring to one word, not both? Vermain posted:It's deliberate commentary on the relationship between love, sex, and violence, especially the latter two. I can get into more detail if you really want, but consider this (ending B spoilers): When 9S is being taunted by Adam, he has the line, "You're thinking about how you want to **** 2B, aren't you?" Most people are immediately going to think of "gently caress," but this is a game that already has swears in it; why the censorship? In the context of all his talk about "hate" before, can you think of another four letter word that could fit in there?
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Zinkraptor posted:So, I have an odd question for those of you with any knowledge of Japanese. (Route B spoilers) So, when 9S is trapped in his own mind or whatever and Adam is messing with him, Adam says something along the lines of "You're thinking about how much you want to **** 2b , aren't you?". I assumed the point of that statement was that **** could stand for both "gently caress" or "kill", since they're both four letter words and fit into the weird sex-and-violence themes that the game has going, like with the strangling scene. But the game is Japanese, which makes me wonder - what was that line in the original Japanese text? Having **** stand for either word only works in English. Do they do something similar, or did it perhaps turn out that they were explicitly referring to one word, not both? It's even better as a pun in Japanese because you can use the exact same verb (yaru) to mean "kill" or "gently caress" in different contexts. It's sorta like "do them" vs "do them in", I guess? Note: I haven't actually reached the line in question so I'm speculating Tarezax fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Mar 19, 2017 |
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Josuke Higashikata posted:https://www.forbes.com/sites/ollieb...d/#5bfd2f5134ec Oh Taro. I've always felt like concepts like "canonicity" didn't mean much to him anyway
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Zinkraptor posted:So, I have an odd question for those of you with any knowledge of Japanese. (Route B spoilers) So, when 9S is trapped in his own mind or whatever and Adam is messing with him, Adam says something along the lines of "You're thinking about how much you want to **** 2b , aren't you?". I assumed the point of that statement was that **** could stand for both "gently caress" or "kill", since they're both four letter words and fit into the weird sex-and-violence themes that the game has going, like with the strangling scene. But the game is Japanese, which makes me wonder - what was that line in the original Japanese text? Having **** stand for either word only works in English. Do they do something similar, or did it perhaps turn out that they were explicitly referring to one word, not both? The first two syllables of the Japanese are censored out and it also hints at "kill" just like the English can be interpreted in the same way. I've read that it's more damning for the "gently caress" interpretation not being a thing in Japanese, but also that "marry" might come into play thanks to the Japanese characters used. I'm pretty sure it's been gone over in the thread before, but maybe one of our Japanese speakers will repost again what they think
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I like that the secret shop is in super-high speed when it's in the place with the fanciest stock. I don't like what I've realised I'm going to have to do before finishing the route though. Sorry Emil, but I need to get All The Things. Also that voice changer option is hilarious and should be in more games.
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The double meaning is fantastic since androids are programmed to feel euphoria in battle frenzy it might as well be both
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PC users: A modder has released a fix for the fullscreen-bug. Currently, when playing the game in fullscreen-mode, the game won't actually run at your monitor's native resolution. There's a more in-depth explanation here, but the TL;DR is that, due to a bug, the game will:
When you boot up the game for the first time after this, there'll be some diagnostics text overlaid on top of it; hit CTRL + SHIFT + O to get rid of it and it'll stay gone even after you restart. More details from the modder himself: Link Instant Grat fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Mar 19, 2017 |
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On my second playthrough I just beat Adam in the desert and got access to the sleeping area. But there's no current objective. It's on, but there's nothing on the map. I can teleport to the bunker but nowhere else. The commander doesn't want to talk to me and I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this. Does anyone know what's up? Edit: never mind you just had to exit the camp 
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Instant Grat posted:PC users: A modder has released a fix for the fullscreen-bug. Currently, when playing the game in fullscreen-mode, the game won't actually run at your monitor's native resolution. There's a more in-depth explanation here, but the TL;DR is that, due to a bug, the game will: Awesome.
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Okay theory time. Anybody else get the feeling the only reason Adam grows to become obsessed with hatred to the point it forms the core of his being is because 2B and 9S try to murder him the first thing he's born? He barely even tries to attack you at Level 1 and I feel like it'd be a very Nier thing to do if it turned out the protagonists ruined a potentially benevolent turning point in machine evolution without provocation. Hell Eve would've probably been an entirely amicable person without Adam telling him to fight and his later snapping when the brother he loves is killed.
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Instant Grat posted:PC users: A modder has released a fix for the fullscreen-bug. Currently, when playing the game in fullscreen-mode, the game won't actually run at your monitor's native resolution. There's a more in-depth explanation here, but the TL;DR is that, due to a bug, the game will: Not playing the PC version myself but this is awesome.
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Oh, I'll keep this spoiler-free but I just thought of something helpful: Reasonably late into the game, you'll get access to a new merchant who hangs out in the Resistance Camp who will sell you a plot item. They ALSO sell a chip that automatically picks up items for you without you needing to mash O, and as far as I can tell this is the only way to get this chip. Once you beat the game you will have to re-unlock them, so pick this up while you can because jeez it's a real quality of life chip to fill up a slot, its only size 10Nina posted:Okay theory time. I can see this being a solid line of thinking, but I also think that Eve saying "wouldn't it be more appropriate if we were named Cain and Abel?" has some significance as well. Adam/Eve are obviously reference the creation of man, which is really easily translated into the birth of the next stage of the robot's evolution into sentience. However, I think it could also be a reference to the relation between the brothers and the androids themselves, androids being created from the cores of machines. Thus, Cain and Abel would make sense as well what with the brothers being killed at the hands of 2B/9S. This would require a lot more thought than I normally put into reading into things, but I think their proposed names, with Adam deciding they will be Adam/Eve and Eve thinking Cain/Abel fits better, also tells you a little bit about their respective values, with Adam being obsessed with creation and destruction (and thus being so heavily influenced by the moments and circumstances of his birth ties into what you were saying), and Eve seeing the relationship with his brother as being his primary concern RazzleDazzleHour fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Mar 19, 2017 |
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Just got ending D. Didn't get ending C yet. Is that just from picking A2 instead of 9S?
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Mordiceius posted:Just got ending D. Didn't get ending C yet. Is that just from picking A2 instead of 9S? Yes
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