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Admiral Ray posted:Death threats are nuts and the people sending them need to chill out and/or receive actual consequences for that poo poo, but the devs totally deserve to be poo poo on for this. Like just regular emails, tweets, letters expressing disappointment and questioning their ability to continue making games.
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Legs Benedict posted:i absolutely cannot believe that someone at EA thought that raising the embargo on streamers this early was a good idea. what a loving idiot They still believe that they've released a good product.
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Death threats do a huge disservice to Bioware becuase it gives them a shield to hide behind the actual criticism of a really lovely game. They just need to be shamed for making GBS threads out poo poo. Also, threats are a refuge of the idiot, and nobody should be doing that poo poo anyway.
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Lumpy the Cook posted:It was supposed to release Fall 2016 IIRC yeah if anything signs point to this game being stuck in development hell for 5 years before EA told bioware to pack up what they had and shove it out the door
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monster on a stick posted:I'd like to see a game where the glowy bits are actually not a weak point at all, and in fact shooting them makes the boss stronger. There, deconstruction of video games complete, hire me Yaeger. i like the following bit which is actually in the ending Ryder, the Archon needs to concentrate on a lot of things at once! So, the more robots you destroy, the weaker he is! seems like that'd have the opposite effect and it could have been an interesting gameplay to ask the player to try and avoid destroying enemies but what the heck do i know!!
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BrianWilly posted:The whole you being Pathfinder instead of Cora thing is genuinely kinda hosed up. Now, okay, it's one thing if the line of succession wasn't all that solid and Cora was more like, "Well, I'm most likely and qualified to have to step in if Alec bites it...but the fact is that I don't know for sure if Alec will pick me and nothing is set in stone here." But she (and everyone else) seems genuinely taken aback that Ryder Sr. could have had anyone other than Cora in mind for the position at all, so it's basically that he led her on with false assurances and gave everyone the impression that he would honor the chain of command, but then just went "haha bitch you thought" at the last second. Pretty sure if you hadn't been lying there on the ground dying then Alec probably would have picked Cora if he was unable to be Pathfinder, she's older, and has actually trained to be a Pathfinder, and they'd worked together a long time. He's was a pretty logical, calculating guy from what I saw. But, think about it, one of your kids is in a med bay in a medically induced coma, who knows when they will wake up, if they wake up, and the other is dying right in front of you, but you have a long shot option that might save their life. People do insanely stupid poo poo for the sake of their children all the time.
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Admiral Ray posted:Death threats are nuts and the people sending them need to chill out and/or receive actual consequences for that poo poo, but the devs totally deserve to be poo poo on for this. Like just regular emails, tweets, letters expressing disappointment and questioning their ability to continue making games. The latter part I somewhat agree with. Was this an issue with pipelines, like were smart artists and designers set up for failure by a few idiot project managers? Was this a result of leads bailing on the project too early to give adequate guidance and polish (as with LA Noire)? Did they leave because of abusive directors? etc. The feedback should be directed at the appropriate areas, or nothing's gonna improve and folks who properly managed their own responsibilities are collateral.
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Cowcaster posted:yeah if anything signs point to this game being stuck in development hell for 5 years before EA told bioware to pack up what they had and shove it out the door Yeah I can believe that as well. Other end of the game development pendulum.
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JBP posted:They still believe that they've released a good product. Until the CEO of EA receives his Q4 bonus, they'd better hope people keep expecting it to be- their studio's continued existence and their mortgages depends on it.
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a.lo posted:Maybe the game will be good. No. Great. I mean the multiplayer might be decent, but nobody should be spending $60 on this, even $30 seems like a lot at this point. If the writing stays consistent from the 1 hour beginning video I saw and this ending video I skipped through, then this is actually garbage.
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Mister Macys posted:Until the CEO of EA receives his Q4 bonus, they'd better hope people keep expecting it to be- their studio's continued existence and their mortgages depends on it. 
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So I am finishing up Horizon now and have Zelda and Nier but haven't played them yet with Andromeda coming on Tuesday. Should I play the other two once I beat Horizon in the hopes there will be some fixes or dive in to Andromeda while drinking heavily and enjoy the trainwreck?
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isk posted:The latter part I somewhat agree with. Was this an issue with pipelines, like were smart artists and designers set up for failure by a few idiot project managers? Was this a result of leads bailing on the project too early to give adequate guidance and polish (as with LA Noire)? Did they leave because of abusive directors? etc. The feedback should be directed at the appropriate areas, or nothing's gonna improve and folks who properly managed their own responsibilities are collateral. Who knows. Five years is a long time for a game like this that, to me, doesn't look like it had a consistent direction or goal, so it ended up being generic as gently caress with some okay shootman bits.
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Milky Moor posted:i like the following bit which is actually in the ending Funny story, but good game Nier does this.
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Guys I liked the trial, should I still send some anthrax to Bioware HQ? Just to be safe?
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This seems moderately disastrous, but I don't have enough faith in humanity to believe it will matter much more than the past ME3 pain.
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Valliantstu posted:Funny story, but good game Nier does this. please do not compare mass effect 4: andromeda to the following games witcher 3 mass effect 3 mass effect 2 mass effect 1 witcher 2 horizon: zero dawn nier (note: list is not exhaustive)
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Nodelphi posted:So I am finishing up Horizon now and have Zelda and Nier but haven't played them yet with Andromeda coming on Tuesday. Should I play the other two once I beat Horizon in the hopes there will be some fixes or dive in to Andromeda while drinking heavily and enjoy the trainwreck? Absolutely. Even if you're looking at the game as-is and thinking you'd enjoy it, there's enough sketchiness about this whole affair that I'd wait at least for a few patches to fix the more egregious bugs before making a final purchase. BotW and Automata are both great games that you'll enjoy.
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Zzulu posted:Guys I liked the trial, should I still send some anthrax to Bioware HQ? Just to be safe? For now just stick to dried dog poop you don't want to show all your cards too early.
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Okay I feel like the production values are high enough that the game would be easily worth $30. It's a 7/10 not a pile of poo poo. I feel bad for a lot of the artists because some people clearly knocked it out of the park.
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Spoilers obviously. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdXS7xYzzno The animation at 1:25 looks like they stopped at the keyframe stage then just splined it because they had no time. Also at 2:57 Ryder is having a conversation with his eyes closed and his eyeballs glitching out. Looks like they went all out with the nude scenes this time as well.
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Nodelphi posted:So I am finishing up Horizon now and have Zelda and Nier but haven't played them yet with Andromeda coming on Tuesday. Should I play the other two once I beat Horizon in the hopes there will be some fixes or dive in to Andromeda while drinking heavily and enjoy the trainwreck? Wholeheartedly recommend Nier as it's fun and charming with plentiful, mechanically sound gameplay. Wouldn't recommend hoping for substantial fixes in ME:A, but to enjoy the multiplayer as a diversion (especially with pals) and wait for more verdicts on the single player before diving in.
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Zzulu posted:Guys I liked the trial, should I still send some anthrax to Bioware HQ? Just to be safe?
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Number Ten Cocks posted:free utnayan
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CJ posted:Spoilers obviously. Skip to 2:35 to see the most awkward kissing animation ever.
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oh gently caress me I have been trying to defend this but I am so done this poo poo is not acceptable
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When people are talking about good and bad ME endings, are they talking post-final boss fight, or during-final boss fight? Because if we go with the former, then the first two ME games' endings were pretty much the same: "The reapers are coming." while ME3's was "okay the reapers came, now choose which color to do with them." The first two were sequel-baiting and not conclusive or even changing based on your decisions, and the third one that did give decisions was universally seen as an insult, even post-patch. If it's the latter, then honestly the third one was less tropey. The first two had final boss fights, despite what decisions you made (ME1: oh, you convinced Saren he was wrong and got him to kill himself? too bad, fight him as a zombie anyway.), and most of the decisions you DID make in ME1 didn't really have a big, if at all, impact in the next games. And the ones that did have an impact, no one really cared for. ME3's ending was basically a hail mary rush to the Citadel, wherein you meet your admiral and have one final bro moment with him, before going to the hated part of it. No final boss, no after-party, no fanfare. So, yeah, if the MEA ending is the other bad guy is coming also make decisions that may affect the sequel that you all knew Bioware was going to make then I don't exactly dislike it nor do I know what else they could've done to improve it. All ME endings have just been "meh" to me, nothing new. Doesn't stop me from looking forward to them. Plus, this is new blood working on the game. It's kinda unfair (from my standpoint, anyway) to expect greatness out of them from an IP they have no experience with at all, especially when they have to live up to such high expectations. Maybe the sequel will be a triumph for them, after they got their feet wet with this one.
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CJ posted:Spoilers obviously. Oh god the mouth noises, gently caress I change my mind, maybe I will piss away $80 for 18 seconds of softcore porn
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ApeHawk posted:Plus, this is new blood working on the game. It's kinda unfair (from my standpoint, anyway) to expect greatness out of them from an IP they have no experience with at all, especially when they have to live up to such high expectations. Maybe the sequel will be a triumph for them, after they got their feet wet with this one. They're only human, they did what they can. Dont put the blame on them.
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ApeHawk posted:When people are talking about good and bad ME endings, are they talking post-final boss fight, or during-final boss fight? ME1: I think of the Saren bits less and more of the Fifth Fleet / Normandy punching Sovereign, then Shepard & Anderson having deep blue hero moments. ME2: Less of the Reaper baby, more of detonating the Reaper base and telling the Illusive Man to gently caress off before bracing for the invasion, but also in the meticulous preparation for the suicide mission and watching things mostly work out. Jack Wall & Sam Hulick's music help a lot, too.
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Slim Killington posted:Oh god the mouth noises, gently caress They're giving the SFM crowd a bunch of nude models on a plate. Just wait 2 weeks if you want to jerk it to space sex. The animation quality will be about the same.
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ApeHawk posted:Plus, this is new blood working on the game. It's kinda unfair (from my standpoint, anyway) to expect greatness out of them from an IP they have no experience with at all, especially when they have to live up to such high expectations. Maybe the sequel will be a triumph for them, after they got their feet wet with this one. We aren't talking about some poverty stricken, backwater studio struggling to train up new people here...
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OctaMurk posted:They're only human, they did what they can. Dont put the blame on them. You can blame EA for putting Bioware on the box and letting this project get this terrible though. That's totally allowed. Also Mac Walters :  He knew it was a piece of poo poo and was actively doing his best to trick people into buying it to the point where he was outright lying about stuff.
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HighwireAct posted:https://www.twitter.com/_get2sammyb/status/843608109297913857 It's interesting to compare this to Garrus's romance in ME2, since they both derive humor from mutual awkwardness, but it's... It's Henry IV part 2 to Timon of Athens, and no mistake. The Garrus one focuses on specific awkwardness. We see Garrus and Shepard are mostly collected and competent people, who can manage a one night stand without looking like assholes, but they're close friends, which makes it awkward, and the different species thing pushes them further from their comfort zone, which makes it more awkward. Importantly, the awkwardness isn't just to be "cute", but is a plot beat for the writing, showing that they're both thinking "Maybe this isn't the best idea." It's building on the characters in an interesting way, and playing off the way the rest of the game sets Shepard and Garrus up (both with Garrus and Shepard constantly giving each other poo poo, and with the way they lean on each other when things really get bad). Here, the awkward isn't playing off anything to give it weight, and is just "Isn't it cute how awkward they are? Look, we're making a joke so we weren't really trying to write well, ha ha". This is just poo poo writing, even sticking within the same series, and the "it's always this bad" is a cheap defense and bullshit at once.
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ApeHawk posted:When people are talking about good and bad ME endings, are they talking post-final boss fight, or during-final boss fight? Oh god, New blood would be a fine excuse if the game weren't being sold for $60 or Marketed off the back of the previous quality *cough* of the OG trilogy.
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OctaMurk posted:They're only human, they did what they can. Dont put the blame on them. Oh gently caress you cracked the code. The launch trailer wasn't them just cramming in a popular song regardless of appropriateness. Bioware animators, blink three times if you are being coerced. And "Oh they're new" isn't an excuse. ME1 was Bioware's first attempt at making an action RPG set in a new IP and they made a good game. The Andromeda team doesn't get to use that excuse when they're building off the systems and the setting that came before.
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