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Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

Decius posted:

Twice now I was unable to get out of combat even minutes after I killed the last guy. Couldn't save, couldn't fast travel, only quit the game or reload an old save.

I've had this happen due to Kett being stuck in walls.

So I walk up to where the minimap shows me they are and fry them through the wall with Annihilation :commissar:

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Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

widespread posted:

Not to sidetrack things but uh... when do I get back to the shooting in ME1? I'm at the bit where the council said Saren dindu nuffin.

It does lag a bit at that point but you can get through the next bit fairly quickly if you charge ahead. You have to go to a few places on the Citadel in pursuit of information against Saren (there will be minor outbreaks of shooting). You quickly pick up 3 companions along the way. Then you show the Council your evidence and escape from the Citadel becomes possible at last.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Oh dear me posted:

It does lag a bit at that point but you can get through the next bit fairly quickly if you charge ahead. You have to go to a few places on the Citadel in pursuit of information against Saren (there will be minor outbreaks of shooting). You quickly pick up 3 companions along the way. Then you show the Council your evidence and escape from the Citadel becomes possible at last.

yeah soon there will be enemies everywhere

Hulk Krogan
Mar 25, 2005



How does the strike team reward stuff work with regards to multiple play-throughs? I assume any guns and credits and stuff are save-specific, but do mission points and any additional strike teams you buy carry over to other Ryders?

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


Oh dear me posted:

It does lag a bit at that point but you can get through the next bit fairly quickly if you charge ahead. You have to go to a few places on the Citadel in pursuit of information against Saren (there will be minor outbreaks of shooting). You quickly pick up 3 companions along the way. Then you show the Council your evidence and escape from the Citadel becomes possible at last.

Okay, I was worried for a second. Does the Council turn against Saren after you get the bits? Because yeah, the meeting was too feelsbadman for me to a point where I had to shut the game down.

Career
Mar 27, 2010

Decius posted:

Twice now I was unable to get out of combat even minutes after I killed the last guy. Couldn't save, couldn't fast travel, only quit the game or reload an old save.

I've come across a lot of these little bugs, some more annoying than others. In the Eos vault, one of the plot doors wouldn't open. Assumed I had to trip a switch somewhere and spent 20 minutes backtracking all over the place. Turns out it was just bugged and opened normally once I loaded an old save. Sometimes got impossibly stuck on the geometry while platforming, had to load an old save. Sometimes the ship doesn't want to land on a planet, have to back out of the scanning interface and reenter, then it lands correctly. Et cetera.

Aside from everything else, game could've used another QA pass.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Torrannor posted:

Edit: Glad that both the Andromeda haters and Andromeda defenders seem to be asleep or something. I want to read posts from people actually experiencing the game, no matter if they dislike or like the game or parts of it. The constant slapfights are dumb.

I've been playing every chance I get since it unlocked, more than I thought I would. A lot of that is in the MP mode, because it is great, but I've also been really drawn into the SP, more than I had expected to be. While janky animations may indeed exist (I haven't seen any on PS4 yet) I'd describe the rest of the game as extremely polished in ways that ME1-3 weren't. So it's gonna be divisive as hell since the actual experience of playing the game is nothing like playing ME2. You don't load your save, pick a cool sounding mission, go do it, say some snappy poo poo, and then you're done and you can do another mission or quit, whatever.

ME:A expects you to engage with it the same way the DA games did. It expects you to give a poo poo about a bunch of systems (from the little ones like scanning) to the big ones (like colony building and actually having to explore) that just did not exist in any form in the series before. It expects you to talk to NPCs and get quests and do a lot of things that aren't "shooting and throwing spells at dudes". And that is... different! I like it, even though sometimes I have quit the single player because I was like "ah man I don't feel like turning in a bunch of quests or going shopping or driving around".

Rookersh
Aug 19, 2010
Anyone find out who made the Remnant yet? I want to know if they actually included some of the stuff I heard about, or if they wised up. Or if they plan on introducing the stuff I've heard as DLC.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

widespread posted:

Okay, I was worried for a second. Does the Council turn against Saren after you get the bits? Because yeah, the meeting was too feelsbadman for me to a point where I had to shut the game down.

Yes they do. Frustration with the Council is a regular thing in the game, but once you're in space you can be rude to them, at least.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Nichael posted:

Does the game ever comment on the fact that the Milky Way has had a ton of sentient races while Andromeda has just the one?

Also, besides Liara, are they any connections ME1-3?


The Milky Way is an entire galaxy. You only explore one cluster in this game. They are not directly comparable. They are entirely different scales.

I am not saying they weren't lazy, but one native species to a cluster is basically how it worked in the trilogy.

Also, yeah, there are other, perhaps even more meaningless callbacks.

Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

AndyElusive posted:

No I kind of get that, it's just that her face looks like poo poo because :tali:
Maybe the animators were also tired of, well, everything.

Oh dear me posted:

Yes they do. Frustration with the Council is a regular thing in the game, but once you're in space you can be rude to them, at least.
ME1 treats the player well in that regard. You'll be reporting to the Council from the Normandy several times throughout the game, and I'm pretty sure that each time you can just abruptly terminate the connection. Joker even asks you in ME3 whether you want to call the Council just to hang up on them "you know, for old time's sake".

Good times. :unsmith:

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Sombrerotron posted:

ME1 treats the player well in that regard. You'll be reporting to the Council from the Normandy several times throughout the game, and I'm pretty sure that each time you can just abruptly terminate the connection. Joker even asks you in ME3 whether you want to call the Council just to hang up on them "you know, for old time's sake".

Good times. :unsmith:

Even if you never hung up on them at all. :v: Although there is a funny moment in ME1 where you can decide to simply not call the Council because you know they'd never believe what you have to tell them.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Oh dear me posted:

Yes they do. Frustration with the Council is a regular thing in the game, but once you're in space you can be rude to them, at least.

Turian councilor is a dick throughout 1 and 2, yeah.

Which makes 3 hilarious as if he's alive, he's immediately helpful... and completely non-apologetic in the best way. Just "yeah, whatever, we should focus on how to stop the reapers now because I'm helping as much as is physically possible. I don't have time to argue about how I hosed up."

Turian councilor is the biggest jackass on the council, which also makes him the best of them.

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.




Yeah thanks for the spoilers about my crew, game. loving assholes.

Side note: Garrus is sitting more well with me as a gumshoe kinda guy. Y'know, the kinda guy with a .38 special on his person as he does his investigation. Guess that's why some people like him.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


For maximum comedy, don't recruit Liara until after you've done every other major story planet.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

exquisite tea posted:

For maximum comedy, don't recruit Liara until after you've done every other major story planet.

God I love doing that to her.

drink Dr Pepper actually
Oct 11, 2012
Just went to check on my comatose sibling.

Because he also has a SAM implant, I was able to hold a conversation with him in my brain. Unfortunately, I did not say enough happy things, so he broke off conversation with me and is still in a coma.

It feels like they got a lot of their inspiration from the worst Star Trek episodes.

I really want to like this game but I'm just not feeling it. :smith:

The Little Kielbasa
Mar 29, 2001

and another thing: im not mad. please dont put in the newspaper that i got mad.
The fact that you have to hit ESC two times to close the map and get back to the game is annoying me way more than it should.

The Little Kielbasa fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Mar 22, 2017

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


exquisite tea posted:

For maximum comedy, don't recruit Liara until after you've done every other major story planet.

Considering I was probably gonna boot Ashley out for Wrex, duly noted.

Edit:

McNally posted:

The Mass Effect series never happened. It's just the hallucinations of a starving asari trapped in an ancient Prothean security field.

This is now a thread about a game called "Andromeda", that new Bioware IP EA made them make.

widespread fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Mar 22, 2017

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

exquisite tea posted:

For maximum comedy, don't recruit Liara until after you've done every other major story planet.

The Mass Effect series never happened. It's just the hallucinations of a starving asari trapped in an ancient Prothean security field.

Ambaire
Sep 4, 2009

by Shine
Oven Wrangler
Oh, god. I just got to the kett base on the ice planet and it is non-stop "the sky is falling, pathfinder" "the temperature is normal" "the temperature is bazonkers, pathfinder". I stopped playing because I feel like I'm about to go crazy. HOW DO I SHUT THIS USELESS PIECE OF poo poo UP? And it doesn't help that every loving time i change temp zones even if the last one was .5s before it spams a notify in the center of the screen. SHUT UP SHUT UP FFS... I'm going to contact support and ask them how the gently caress I turn this off.

Nancy
Nov 23, 2005



Young Orc

widespread posted:



Yeah thanks for the spoilers about my crew, game. loving assholes.

Side note: Garrus is sitting more well with me as a gumshoe kinda guy. Y'know, the kinda guy with a .38 special on his person as he does his investigation. Guess that's why some people like him.

Garrus is the actual best space waifu.

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin

Charles Get-Out posted:

Garrus is the actual best space waifu.

:yeah:

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Ambaire posted:

Oh, god. I just got to the kett base on the ice planet and it is non-stop "the sky is falling, pathfinder" "the temperature is normal" "the temperature is bazonkers, pathfinder". I stopped playing because I feel like I'm about to go crazy. HOW DO I SHUT THIS USELESS PIECE OF poo poo UP? And it doesn't help that every loving time i change temp zones even if the last one was .5s before it spams a notify in the center of the screen. SHUT UP SHUT UP FFS... I'm going to contact support and ask them how the gently caress I turn this off.

It probably wouldn't be so bad if it was just alerts in the corner or something, but they felt the need to make SAM speak every time anything like that comes up. People complained about it during the Peebee loyalty mission preview, and they said "we had to do it because it was introducing gameplay and we had to make sure people knew what to do" but no, that's clearly not the extent of it. Also, lol give your players some kind of credit! If you think that little of them just put up a waypoint; don't coach them through every little moment like some helicopter parent.

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE

exquisite tea posted:

For maximum comedy, don't recruit Liara until after you've done every other major story planet.

What happens?

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE

Charles Get-Out posted:

Garrus is the actual best space waifu.

this is correct

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

RottenK posted:

What happens?
She's completely lost her poo poo by the time you get there.

Nancy
Nov 23, 2005



Young Orc

RottenK posted:

What happens?

She is a little insane and throws a tantrum about how you've figured out all of the biggest mysteries of the Protheans she has spent her life working on.

Ambaire
Sep 4, 2009

by Shine
Oven Wrangler

marshmallow creep posted:

It probably wouldn't be so bad if it was just alerts in the corner or something, but they felt the need to make SAM speak every time anything like that comes up. People complained about it during the Peebee loyalty mission preview, and they said "we had to do it because it was introducing gameplay and we had to make sure people knew what to do" but no, that's clearly not the extent of it. Also, lol give your players some kind of credit! If you think that little of them just put up a waypoint; don't coach them through every little moment like some helicopter parent.

I sent them a support request for player harassment and put this as the message body. If I get a response, I'll post it as well.

quote:

SAM is harassing me

I got to the Kett base on the ice planet and SAM is verbally harassing me. The base is scattered with the heat things and every time I run towards one or away, SAM tells me "the temperature is normal" or "the temperature is falling". I figured that interaction out about 5 minutes into the zone and this is just getting completely annoying. I was forced to stop playing a few minutes ago because I feel like I'm about to go crazy due to SAM's incessant griping. I need a way to make SAM stop telling me when the temperature changes. Please. Otherwise I will be completely unable to continue playing and I will request a late refund due to mental health issues.

I also want a way to make it stop doing the popup notifications in the center of the screen since I can already see when the life support needs change in the lower left of the screen.

Thank you.

Also, in case it wasn't obvious, I am being completely serious here. This is not 'satire' or anything other.

Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

All right, seeing as I still had about half an hour of demo time left, I decided to give the custom character designer a whirl. Although I had already read earlier that it's a step down from DA:I's designer, I wasn't really expecting such severe restrictions. Frankly, it compares poorly even to the trilogy's designer - at least there you could mix and match eyebrows, nose, and mouth. Here you just have to put up with whichever combination each of the 9 presets has. Hell, you can't even change a preset's basic skin colour or skin texture. The only more-or-less reasonable justification for this I can think of is that it cuts down on variables and makes it possible to export/import custom faces, but frankly I'd rather have a more versatile designer at the expense of any saving or retrieving functionality.

marshmallow creep posted:

It probably wouldn't be so bad if it was just alerts in the corner or something, but they felt the need to make SAM speak every time anything like that comes up. People complained about it during the Peebee loyalty mission preview, and they said "we had to do it because it was introducing gameplay and we had to make sure people knew what to do" but no, that's clearly not the extent of it. Also, lol give your players some kind of credit! If you think that little of them just put up a waypoint; don't coach them through every little moment like some helicopter parent.
Hopefully they'll change that around with a patch. Doesn't seem like it should be too difficult.

I'm still looking forward to getting my copy and carrying on from where I left off in the demo, but good grief BioWare sure outdid themselves in crafting entirely unnecessary sources of frustration.

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

they limited the character designer so their procedural tech to generate a dad ryder that looks like you could work

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Zikan posted:

they limited the character designer so their procedural tech to generate a dad ryder that looks like you could work

Either Dadryder was supposed to be a bigger part of the story or they crippled a fan favorite feature for a guy who shows up for one or two hours of the game and then dies off screen.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
I really like how they give you zero reason to wear any casual choice other than the bitchin' jacket. Like, I was tempted by the hoody one time but then went right back to my cool jacket.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....
Oh they just rant out of time/hosed up making it work.

Supposedly a fix is coming, maybe, someday?

quote:

BIOWARE 'EVALUATING OPTIONS' FOR MASS EFFECT: ANDROMEDA CHARACTER CREATOR AND ANIMATIONS

"No promises."

BioWare is aware of the issues that have been raised about Mass Effect: Andromeda in the past week or so - primarily facial animations and character creation - and is looking at how it can solve them.

Lead Designer on Mass Effect: Andromeda, Ian S. Frazier, took to Twitter last night to answer some questions from the public.

On the subject of the game's controversial facial animations, Frazier said "we're looking at patching lots of issues and want to strongly support the game moving forward. I can't say more just yet."

He also addressed Andromeda's character creator, the depth of which has been called into question by players. "Can't promise anything yet," said Frazier, "but we're currently evaluating various options for making it better." He also replied to a separate question on the same topic: "No promises, but I've got it on a list of things we're looking at potentially fixing/adding for character creation."

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/03/22/bioware-evaluating-options-for-mass-effect-andromeda-character-creator-and-animations

doctor iono
May 19, 2005

I LARVA YOU
i would think they would limit the facial geometry of the PC to try to keep the animations on them looking as good as possible

and yet

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE

SubponticatePoster posted:

She's completely lost her poo poo by the time you get there.


Charles Get-Out posted:

She is a little insane and throws a tantrum about how you've figured out all of the biggest mysteries of the Protheans she has spent her life working on.

thanks

lunar detritus
May 6, 2009


Apparently there's a bug with the voice chat. It's always on even if it says it's disabled in the settings. I found this out after almost coughing someone's ear off last night. :v:

I think setting it to Push-to-Talk fixes it but I didn't have time to check.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

doctor iono posted:

i would think they would limit the facial geometry of the PC to try to keep the animations on them looking as good as possible

and yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn4x_BRqIpI

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009



They better be repeating this for Andromeda.

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Urthor
Jul 28, 2014

When does the radiation clear on Eos? Cleared that all out, but I still can't access the outer areas with lvl 3 radiation

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