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J-Spot
May 7, 2002

HGH posted:

Remember that time Sora fought at the Alamo?
Damnit, now I really want a game where instead of Disney worlds Sora, Donald, and Goofy travel to actual historical events like some kind of anime Bill & Ted.

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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looking forward to "Der Fuhrers Face" world featuring a Hitler, Goebbels, Tojo, and Himmler boss fight

they can use Rowdy Rumble for it

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

HGH posted:

Remember that time Sora fought at the Alamo?

Christ, I remember that Davy Crockett theme song like it's burned into my head. My brother taped those movies and watched them till the tapes broke.
After I saw that movie I started noticing that song everywhere- it even pops up in Back to the Future, and Disney is even mentioned in the credits as a result.

It's worst kind of ear worm. Fuckin' Hubert Humphrey of all people even modified it and turned the tune into a campaign slogan.

MissileWaster
Jul 2, 2007

Remember that one time you totally botched that snap?

drrockso20 posted:

Disney Animated Canon Movies that haven't been used as Worlds yet in Kingdom Hearts

The Jungle Book

^Almost made it into a previous Kingdom Hearts game

The Jungle Book was almost in BBS. Some areas are still in the game data, including King Louie's throne area.

Mr E
Sep 18, 2007

How bad is CoM Proud? Should I run through as quick as possible on proud then do a begginer 100% if I'm stupid and want the platinum?

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Mr E posted:

How bad is CoM Proud? Should I run through as quick as possible on proud then do a begginer 100% if I'm stupid and want the platinum?

you'll be hard-pressed to notice the difference with Proud tbqh

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

Yeah basically you die easier but the only real difference in gameplay is that you'll have to execute your chosen strategy slightly more betterly. CoM is really not a game about twitch reactions, except sometimes in Riku mode.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

Make Emperor's New Groove as a world where Kuzko is the boss and Kronk is your world specific teammate.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

How could Kuzko be a boss, he can barely take care of himself

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

bobjr posted:

Make Emperor's New Groove as a world where Kuzko is the boss and Kronk is your world specific teammate.

If we ever do get ENG as a world, they need to sneak in some Kingdom of The Sun stuff, like Yzma's cut song(in general Kingdom Hearts need to integrate songs from the movies it uses more often), as it would be a perfect fit

Also for Kingdom Hearts 3 hopefully Malificent will have recruited a new council of villains, it's still a shame that she didn't get the chance to in either KH2 or 3D

SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST
There's a sequel to Wreck It Ralph? Since when?

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST

SonicRulez posted:

There's a sequel to Wreck It Ralph? Since when?

It's not out yet. Apparently it's going to involve Ralph and the internet.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

SonicRulez posted:

There's a sequel to Wreck It Ralph? Since when?

It's coming next year, there's at least three other movies on the list that haven't come out yet either(Incredibles 2, Gigantic, and Coco)

TopHatGenius
Oct 3, 2008

something feels
different

Hot Rope Guy
I beat KH2 while skipping all cutscenes for the first time. I didn't expect my experience to be soo much more enjoyable like that. Then again I've beaten the drat game too many times already.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
Still going through Kingdom Hearts 2, got to the point where Mickey explains about KH1 Ansem not being the real Ansem, and the way he explains it is pretty funny

sout
Apr 24, 2014

drrockso20 posted:

Still going through Kingdom Hearts 2, got to the point where Mickey explains about KH1 Ansem not being the real Ansem, and the way he explains it is pretty funny

I'm jealous of you for experiencing how dumb this series is fresh(I assume). I know KH3 will probably be very dumb but I'd be amazed if anything could surprise me any more.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

drrockso20 posted:

Still going through Kingdom Hearts 2, got to the point where Mickey explains about KH1 Ansem not being the real Ansem, and the way he explains it is pretty funny

I just remembered that scene and how it kinda sounds like they really didn't know what they were going for either when they recorded the scene because the way Mickey says it is some of the most unclear dialogue that will definitely leave you with a wrong impression. Which really wouldn't surprise me if that were actually the case. Nomura has admitted to writing by the seat of his pants all the time.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

sout posted:

I'm jealous of you for experiencing how dumb this series is fresh(I assume). I know KH3 will probably be very dumb but I'd be amazed if anything could surprise me any more.

Well it's not exactly fresh, but it has been about a decade since I last played KH2(and somewhere between 6 and 8 since I last played KH1), and my first time going through the Final Mix version

Currently I just finished up with the second visits for Port Royal(Undead Pirates are goddamn annoying to fight) and the Colosseum, as well as the portion of Atlantica where you "fight" Ursula(KH2 Atlantica has to be the single weirdest thing about this game, I guess they wanted to include it again but didn't want to deal with underwater combat again, probably why Neverland didn't return either as the same applies to flying combat)

Also whoever was responsible for the Xaldin fight, they are an rear end in a top hat(one thing both my first run ~10 years ago and this one have in common is that they were both the first time the King Mickey rescue was triggered, amazingly enough this time around it somehow activated THREE times, which is probably the only way I was able to win, well that and Master Form being ridiculously strong)

Amppelix posted:

I just remembered that scene and how it kinda sounds like they really didn't know what they were going for either when they recorded the scene because the way Mickey says it is some of the most unclear dialogue that will definitely leave you with a wrong impression. Which really wouldn't surprise me if that were actually the case. Nomura has admitted to writing by the seat of his pants all the time.

Nomura reminds me of Akira Toriyama in that regard, it just comes off as more nonsensical cause Nomura tries to be "deep"

drrockso20 fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Apr 18, 2017

Last Celebration
Mar 30, 2010
To be honest I don't think Nomura at any point has considered his writing to be high art. I just think the dude writes really dumb stuff to have cool moments like Best Villain Old Xehonort coming back*, or writes cool stuff like Roxas dual wielding two keyblades and comes up with a kinda half assed response precisely because he isn't taking this poo poo ultra seriously.

*This is only cool because it means another game of Xehonort when he doesn't even have to pretend not to be evil.

GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.
KH3 is going to be amazing because his (amazingly) stupid plots are going to be applied to an HD game, with super-realistic people screaming about light.

0.2 already showed what it's like and it's gonna be great.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
I have always thought that part of the point of Kingdom Hearts is that the plot is actually really simple from far enough away (you must balance light & darkness to be at peace with the worlds around you) but there is so much industrial anime baggage surrounding magic and powers and clones and time travel and dark canyons tornado lightning fights that it renders even sane people kinda cuckoo over all the ridiculous BS

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST

GonSmithe posted:

KH3 is going to be amazing because his (amazingly) stupid plots are going to be applied to an HD game, with super-realistic people screaming about light.

0.2 already showed what it's like and it's gonna be great.

Nah, KH has always been heavily stylized. I doubt HD graphics are going to make Mickey waxing philosophical about the necessity of both Light and Darkness for the universe any more or less amazing.

TopHatGenius
Oct 3, 2008

something feels
different

Hot Rope Guy
KH2 got dumb but I honestly think everything went off the rails at BBS. And then DDS cranked the silliness up to 20.

Renoistic
Jul 27, 2007

Everyone has a
guardian angel.
KH went of the rails the second a Disney character started talking about the darkness in people's hearts.

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
I'm at the end of one and don't know anything about the other games. So that's good

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines

TopHatGenius posted:

KH2 got dumb but I honestly think everything went off the rails at BBS. And then DDS cranked the silliness up to 20.

I actually think that BBS retroactively made KH2 make sense. But then DDD happened and everything went all topsy turvy again.

Color Printer
May 9, 2011

You get used to it. I don't
even see the code. All I see
is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...


Dream Drop Distance is where you just have to let go and say "Okay, Nomura, let's see where the gently caress this is going" and just strap yourself in for Tetsuya Nomura's Wild Ride.

Unfortunately the next stop on the ride probably won't be here for the next four years or something

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
Okay this second trip to Space Paranoids is the loving worst, the part on the Solar Sailer is loving impossible, no matter what I do I can't get rid of the enemies before the gauge fills up and I lose(there's a lot of grade A bullshit enemies in this game but I think those purple tanks are the most bullshit of them all), done it three times in a row and not a single strategy I've tried has worked

Really hope someone has a suggestion on how to cheese my way through this without having to leave and do a bunch of grinding, cause after my last loss I literally almost tore my controller apart in sheer frustration

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Can't really say I had a lot of trouble with that spot in particular. But Space Paranoids revisit is entirely optional and just earns you access to Sephiroth, you can do just about anything else before it.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Augus posted:

Can't really say I had a lot of trouble with that spot in particular. But Space Paranoids revisit is entirely optional and just earns you access to Sephiroth, you can do just about anything else before it.

Isn't it needed for the Radiant Garden transition?

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


drrockso20 posted:

Isn't it needed for the Radiant Garden transition?

Yes, but you don't need to do that to beat the game

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
So after 1 I play chain of memories right?

Lord Cyrahzax
Oct 11, 2012

RC Cola posted:

So after 1 I play chain of memories right?

If you hate yourself, yes

TopHatGenius
Oct 3, 2008

something feels
different

Hot Rope Guy

drrockso20 posted:

Isn't it needed for the Radiant Garden transition?

Yup.

Like with all problematic areas, grind out some levels and return.

Cuchulain
May 15, 2007

My tiny godly CoX shall burn forever!

drrockso20 posted:

Isn't it needed for the Radiant Garden transition?

Wisdom Form Magnet Thunder Spam or Magnet into Trinity Limit.

Actually, Bring a few Ethers along, Wisdom Form Magnet Thunder Spam until Form runs out, Magnet into Trinity Limit (use Goofy's drive portion first, hitting magnet trapped enemies gives crazy amounts of drive back), then repeat.

And the Purple tanks are the most bullshit enemy in the game, that's why the super secret final optional dungeon features Red versions that are even more brutal.

Cuchulain fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Apr 19, 2017

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

TopHatGenius posted:

Yup.

Like with all problematic areas, grind out some levels and return.

God dammit I loving hate grinding, especially in these games

Cuchulain posted:

Wisdom Form Magnet Thunder Spam or Magnet into Trinity Limit.

Actually, Bring a few Ethers along, Wisdom Form Magnet Thunder Spam until Form runs out, Magnet into Trinity Limit (use Goofy's drive portion first, hitting magnet trapped enemies gives crazy amounts of drive back), then repeat.

And the Purple tanks are the most bullshit enemy in the game, that's why the super secret final optional dungeon features Red versions that are even more brutal.

Tried doing that, for some reason I keep screwing up and casting cure immediately after going into Wisdom form, which screws up the whole strategy so I immediate give up and let the gauge fills out(also Wisdom Form probably isn't going to be all that helpful since it's only at level one, indeed Valor is the only one above 1 and it's only at two, I barely even use Drives or Summons since this drat game is an rear end about letting you refill the drive gauge)

This section is really draining out my desire to finish KH2(already decided I'm not doing any other parts of the story that I still need to do until I beat this), and if that happens I'll probably just give up on the rest of the franchise, which will be really annoying after buying 1.5+2.5 and going through a bunch of bullshit to rent a copy of 2.8

drrockso20 fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Apr 19, 2017

Last Celebration
Mar 30, 2010
The purple tank guys are basically giant flags saying WHY ARENT YOU USING REFLECT ALL DAY ERRY DAY ITS SO GOOD NOW, they're probably the most satisfying enemy to tear apart with it aside from the mine made guys.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Last Celebration posted:

The purple tank guys are basically giant flags saying WHY ARENT YOU USING REFLECT ALL DAY ERRY DAY ITS SO GOOD NOW, they're probably the most satisfying enemy to tear apart with it aside from the mine made guys.

I tried using reflect and it continued to be as useless as it's been the whole time I've had it, cause while it does do a decent amount of damage to them it doesn't do it anywhere near fast enough for it to be even remotely practical, which has been the case for pretty much anything beyond basic melee combat for pretty much the entire game(Magic is incredibly ineffective for it's cost as are any limits involving allies, and both Drives and Summons are generally not worth using because they're too demanding of the drive gauge to be consistently used, heck Genie is the only Summon I've used more than once, and Limit Form I've only used by accident as it's just plain terrible)

I guess I'm stuck grinding out a bunch of levels, anyone know any good places to do so?

Last Celebration
Mar 30, 2010
Umm, Summons are an insanely good use of the Drive bar, since if you don't use the limits they last more or less indefinitely and Stitch especially relives a lot of pressure while healing your MP. Also, are you chaincasting Reflect by mashing the spell button, because that totally works even though it seems like it shouldn't.

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Cuchulain
May 15, 2007

My tiny godly CoX shall burn forever!
you don't need to grind levels, reflect is incredibly OP if you mash it, Wisdom being level 1 is fine (you just need it or master form's spell boost)

If you're consistently hitting cure instead of using magnet I don't know what other advice to give you tbh :psyduck:

I just reread your post, there's so much in there that's confusing me. Reflect is useless, Summons and Drives are all bad, Magic is impractical?

wat

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