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Attack Plan: Try Not To Die Team A Setup A Team, carrying 1 M60 machine gun and 4 M16A2 rifles infiltrates to Point Alpha, then leapfrog to Bravo. A Fire & Maneuver Team (2 soldiers) from A Team (Archer) infiltrates to Charlie while covered by the rest of A Team (Alpine). Their task will be to block access along the eastbound and southbound roads, and attack any targets of opportunity. Team B Advance B Team, armed with M16A2 rifles, infiltrate by leapfrogging to Delta, then to Echo. Half of B Team (Butcher) infiltrate to Foxtrot under cover by the rest of B Team (Baker). Baker then advances to the corner at Hotel and help Butcher reach Golf. Then Butcher covers Baker as Baker advances on the door. Once Baker has reached the door, the whole of B Team raid along the yellow line until India, clearing all rooms in order. Four men raid each room, with one standing guard. Once they've reached India, B Team retrace their steps along the pink line, then exfiltrate along the blue lines going to Lima and Mike. Exfiltration When B Team reaches Lima, Archer to Bravo and advance on November. If B Team is under fire and Alpine are not, Alpine them withdraw to November. If Alpine are under fire, they withdraw to Alpha. Once B Team leaves Mike, Archer and Alpine exfiltrate along blue lines. Aborting If B Team feels the need to abort the mission because of heavy casualties/heavy resistance, they exfiltrate along blue lines under A Team cover as for 'Exfiltration'. Rules of Engagement Unless they can't advance in any other way, B Team should hold fire until they've reached both Echo and Foxtrot. A Team should not open fire until fired upon, or they hear the sound of combat from the compound. A Team must not under any circumstances fire upon the buildings after Baker has left Echo. Notes Having so many people in A Team for the purpose of overwatch hampers us a bit. Ideally we'd have more people for room clearing, since A Team simply can't do much once the firing starts, if I'm understanding where the doors are properly here. We're left with A Team covering the roads against reinforcements, and B Team trying very desperately to clear all the rooms. With luck, there will be few people in the rooms and most of them will be in the courtyard or corridors (room fighting is baaaaaaad for you). LatwPIAT fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Apr 14, 2017 |
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^^^^^ B-Team should definitely bring grenades since we're clearing a bunch of buildings. 90s Cringe Rock posted:So the plan is stealth in, steal some binocs and radios, stealth out, sneak over to the overwatch team, equip them, sneak back to the base, and start the actual mission? Yeah, you'd think on our million dollar budget we could have at least splurged for some $15 Bushnell's and a few sets of walkie talkies to get us started. It's not encrypted communication and high grade laser rangefinder night vision binoculars, but it's stuff a literal child would have access to. Zaodai fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Apr 14, 2017 |
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chitoryu12 posted:My vote for how it goes: I'm with this, except with some overwatch on the East too. To avoid friendly fire, overwatch don't shoot at anything they can't positively identify as hostile. They should have clear ideas of where the infil team are going in and expected to come out. Infil team perhaps to spend a minimum amount of time inside, so overwatch can just pop anything that exits before then with prejudice. Infil team should enter as soon as overwatch fire their initial volleys, then clear room by room (I can't quite see on that image where the door is or the layout, will have another go tomorrow), perhaps splitting into Clear North and Clear South teams if that's the layout. But clear it fast and suddenly, shock and awe and lots of grenades, Flash, Frag, Fosforous, whatever. Take no prisoners. Set fire to the computers. gently caress that poo poo right up any way they can figure how.
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Apr 14, 2017 17:51
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Quinntan posted:Wouldn't it be QBZ-05s? Are we fighting the Chinese military here or the Chinese-backed or Tibetan rebels?
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Apr 14, 2017 17:52
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Zaodai posted:Yeah, you'd think on our million dollar budget we could have at least splurged for some $15 Bushnell's and a few sets of walkie talkies to get us started. It's not encrypted communication and high grade laser rangefinder night vision binoculars, but it's stuff a literal child would have access to.
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Apr 14, 2017 17:52
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chitoryu12 posted:Are we fighting the Chinese military here or the Chinese-backed or Tibetan rebels? PLAAF
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Apr 14, 2017 17:53
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chitoryu12 posted:Are we fighting the Chinese military here or the Chinese-backed or Tibetan rebels? I don't think the Chinese military is going to allow anyone that isn't themselves to run a long-range radar station, so I'd say it's Chinese troopers.
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Apr 14, 2017 17:53
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Phi230 posted:PLAAF In that case, the Chinese are probably carrying QBZ-95 and QBZ-03 assault rifles in 5.8mm or Type 81s or even old Type 56 Kalashnikovs in 7.62x39mm. If we want to steal their poo poo, ammo incompatibility is a logistics thing to keep in mind.
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Apr 14, 2017 17:56
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We could always steal their poo poo just to have on hand at base as backup weapons. They'll sit in a corner somewhere, it's not like we'd be lugging a tank around behind us. A few spares could come in handy.
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Apr 14, 2017 18:02
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Or we steal and resell it because we aren't being paid for this op.
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Apr 14, 2017 18:04
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Apr 14, 2017 18:05
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EDIT: Switching my vote to Bacarruda's plan OPERATION CIRCUIT BREAKER
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Apr 14, 2017 18:11
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Try Not To Die works for me.
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OPERATION CIRCUIT BREAKER Situation: Chinese Radar Facility protecting Lhasa Air Base. Enemy forces are one Officer, three Guards, three Technicians. Officer and techs armed with pistols. Guards with assault rifles. Expect rear-area, low-quality troops. Mission: Kill or incapacitate all personnel Grab any intel (documents, radar equipment, codebooks, etc.) and usable weapons and gear. Destroy all radar and comms equipment. Execution: Organize yourself as follows: Team A: Cover Element RED Gunner: Popete (M60) Assistant Gunner: Actuary (M16A2) Element ORANGE TL: Dwayne "The Dwayne" Dwayne (M16A2) Potato (M16A2) Team B: Assault Element BLUE SL: Tesla Cola (M16A2 + x2 M67) Snake Doctor (M16A2 + x2 M67) Spanky (M16A2 + x2 M67) Dread (M16A2 + x2 M67 + x1 M19A1 White Phosphorus) Element GREEN TL: Grimace Howlington III (M16A2 + x2 M67) Steve (M16A2 + x2 M67) Count (M16A2 + x2 M67) Simpson Mcfish (M16A2 + x2 M67 + x1 M19A1 White Phosphorus) Team A will establish overwatch NW of the compound. Do not fire until you are in position. Then engage targets at will. Make sure you have positive ID on targets and do not hit friendlies. Team B will breach the compound in the following phases: Phase Alpha: Element BLUE take up kneeling positions at base entrance. Train weapons on buildings Phase Bravo: Element GREEN runs into compound and sets on wall. Once GREEN is in position, BLUE runs to join them. When both are set, stack BLUE outside the west room and GREEN outside the east room. Toss one frag into each room - let it go off, then breach the rooms simultaneously. Clear rooms, set Willie Pete grenades as demo. Phase Charlie: Both teams stack on the hallway on the corner Phase Delta: BLUE tosses a frag into the bathroom -- let it go off, the breach and clear. GREEN covers the hallway. Phase Echo: Both Elements stack at the southern end of the hallway. Phase Froxtrot: Both Elements round the corner. BLUE stack on the eastern room. GREEN stack on the western room. Frag, bang, breach, clear. Set demo on the generators. Phase Golf: Both Elements Regroup in hallway. Phase Hotel: GREEN clear room at the western end of the hall BLUE joins them when clear. Once building is clear -- both teams move in wedge formation (GREEN on right, BLUE on left) along the dark blue line. Link up with Element ORANGE, then move to Element RED's position, then exfil as a squad. GREEN and BLUE in their wedge, RED in line abreast covering the rear. Admin: Each man has a basic field dressing. If a man is hit, take down the threat, then have his buddy bandage him and get him stabilized. If he is mobile, have him stay with his element. If he is immobile, leave him there and we will grab him when we exfil. Command and Control: BLUE element leader is the mission leader. If he is killed, GREEN element leader takes over. Questions?
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Apr 14, 2017 18:29
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Voting for Circuit Breaker and definitely not just because it lets me be part of the assault team.
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Apr 14, 2017 18:34
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I like both plans, but CIRCUIT BREAKER speaks to me.
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Crazycryodude posted:Voting for Circuit Breaker and definitely not just because it lets me be part of the assault team. Yeah circuit breaker looks good and I also really wanna shoot an M60.
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Apr 14, 2017 18:36
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Voting for Circuit Breaker because it means a good chance that I won't be shot!
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Apr 14, 2017 18:42
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Voting Circuit Breaker.
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Bacarruda posted:OPERATION CIRCUIT BREAKER Heh, it amuses me that our plans are so different in part because I think the door is to the south, and you think it's to the east.  Anyway, this is probably a better plan than mine, but I want more detail on the infiltration too the compound entrance. Are they really just going to advance across open ground towards the facility? I really think they should advance south from the trees, at least. That said, my vote is ironically going to be for CIRCUIT BREAKER. LatwPIAT fucked around with this message at 21:01 on May 14, 2017 |
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Apr 14, 2017 18:50
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No guys vote Try Not To Die. I'm Snake Doctor and we literally just hired Snake, I don't want to assault and get shot already. 
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Crazycryodude posted:Voting for Circuit Breaker and definitely not just because it lets me be part of the assault team. Ill try not to get all of us killed.
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The discussion about avoiding friendly fire reminded me to add the rules for IDing targets to the Hired Goons Character Manager. We're... not that great at it. LatwPIAT fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Apr 14, 2017 |
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Apr 14, 2017 19:20
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If less that 5 goons die in this missions vs C tier guard I'll call it a success. Also entrusting me with an m60 on the ridge totally won't result in friendly fire.
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Operation Circuit Breaker
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Popete posted:If less that 5 goons die in this missions vs C tier guard I'll call it a success. Yeah, I think our strike teams are going to end up with shotgun blasts to the chest as soon as we walk through the door. At least as Green Team Leader, I won't be point man (I assume).
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Apr 14, 2017 19:43
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Circuit Breaker is a good ops name, so it gets my vote.
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Apr 14, 2017 20:10
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Can we toss a non-WP smoke into the building to flush them out?
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Zaodai posted:Yeah, I think our strike teams are going to end up with shotgun blasts to the chest as soon as we walk through the door. At least as Green Team Leader, I won't be point man (I assume). We are fragging every door we breach and since grenades in this are insane we should be good.
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I think if I heard explosions from literally every rooms in the building these guys were going through, and I didn't have grenades of my own, I'd probably just surrender and hope to get prisoner exchanged (or left behind after they destroyed the radar equipment). At least in a rear echelon post like this where I'm just a desk jockey and I have a pistol and like 1-2 mags of ammo. Plus the guys inside have no way of knowing how poorly equipped we are.
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On the other hand, if they're tossing grenades everywhere before going in, they're probably not looking to take prisoners or leave survivors. I'd hide behind my desk and wait for them, because what else could I do?
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Eh, room clearing with grenades is a "no hard feelings"-thing. It doesn't say we won't give quarter, it says we're competent and really interested in not dying.
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LatwPIAT posted:Eh, room clearing with grenades is a "no hard feelings"-thing. It doesn't say we won't give quarter, it says we're competent and really interested in not dying. This. If guys were breaking into my military outpost in a combat zone, and they were room clearing with grenades, I wouldn't assume that they were murderous blodothirsty savages that take no prisoners. I'd assume they valued their safety above all and would be far more ameiable to surrender talks than most because it would keep them from having to room clear in the first place. That said, if we do parley, we force them to walk outside where the overwatch team can see them, we do not take their surrenders face to face or walk into a room where they "totally surrender guys, we swear."
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Zaodai posted:That said, if we do parley, we force them to walk outside where the overwatch team can see them, we do not take their surrenders face to face or walk into a room where they "totally surrender guys, we swear." "Toss out your weapons, then come out one by one with your hands in the air!" before we tie their hands behind their backs and blindfold them (with torn-up uniforms) is pretty standard procedure for this kind of thing, but it does raise one question... ...do any of us speak Chinese?
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LatwPIAT posted:"Toss out your weapons, then come out one by one with your hands in the air!" before we tie their hands behind their backs and blindfold them (with torn-up uniforms) is pretty standard procedure for this kind of thing, but it does raise one question... Also, is there sufficient cell signal for someone to pull up Google Translate on their phone just in case?
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Apr 14, 2017 20:48
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Im hoping they gave us like a surplus small pamphlet that has some few simple commands on it.
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LatwPIAT posted:"Toss out your weapons, then come out one by one with your hands in the air!" before we tie their hands behind their backs and blindfold them (with torn-up uniforms) is pretty standard procedure for this kind of thing, but it does raise one question... We have a Commander that does! If we had a loud speaker, we could periodically (every few rooms) shout for them to throw away their weapons and walk outside with their hands up in Chinese. We could look that up online before we left so we'd have it. We could just stop and shout it as it is now. Couldn't hurt? Man, I'd feel better if we had even some dime store radios so we could communicate with our overwatch team. Watching is so useless when you can't tell anybody.
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Also if we're bringing the M60, our gunner needs to use this as their reference for training. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGAwrmOapb4
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Actually, we can do this super-old timey until we find a Radio Shack. Can we set up pre-defined signals between the overwatch team and the strike teams? You know, shoot-> pause -> shoot shoot would mean they've surrendered or something? Wouldn't convey a TON of information, but at least we could get signals for pre-defined events.
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Voting is closed. Circuit Breaker it is. Will run the mission when I get home so feel free to plan and stuff because there's still some time
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