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sparkmaster
Apr 1, 2010
Zack. Good intelligence is going to help us more than a pair of Rafeles who may or may not show up, and who may or may not blow up the things we want blown up.

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Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Zack Really wanna be a bro and help out rohan, but id rather not have her go loose cannon and blow up aid convoy because she thought it was a chinese AA battery.

TheGreatEvilKing
Mar 28, 2016





Rohan

:bandwagon:

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
Zack

Bacarruda
Mar 30, 2011

Mutiny!?! More like "reinterpreted orders"
As much as I'd love to have Rohan, we need Zack -- we're going to need all the intel and clandestine/covert warfare support we can get.

Two Rafales and a pissed-off Wing Commander are nice things to have, but we can't count on having them when we need them

Cthulhu Dreams
Dec 11, 2010

If I pretend to be Cthulhu no one will know I'm a baseball robot.

Bacarruda posted:

As much as I'd love to have Rohan, we need Zack -- we're going to need all the intel and clandestine/covert warfare support we can get.

Two Rafales and a pissed-off Wing Commander are nice things to have, but we can't count on having them when we need them

She'd have to base with us, so we should have some interaction. Also, we can bet that the Chinese are going to start backing the dictator because resources AND they hate us, and she probably hates the Chinese so win/win.

I agree Zack is better, and whats more thematic that having the CIA interfering in a proxy war in the developing world, but I'd still love to hire Rohan.

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011

Pitching is the art of instilling fear.
Rohan

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Zack

Psawhn
Jan 15, 2011
I'm feeling a Zack attack. We're in it for the long haul, so intelligence is good. With satellite recon and whatever else the CIA's got, that'll help us out. Bogan's ground intel and humint is a close second.

Rohan's an Ace Combat protagonist, so we should give her a home as soon as we've got an Ace Combat plot rather than a grueling African civil war.

Psawhn fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Apr 20, 2017

wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013
Torn, but want to let us play out going through Rohan.

Stago Lego
Sep 3, 2011
Now is the hour! For Wing Commander Rohan!

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
She won't stay with us forever, but hire Rohan now and on some distant day, on some future contract, the Rohirrim will fly to our aid.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


90s Cringe Rock posted:

She won't stay with us forever, but hire Rohan now and on some distant day, on some future contract, the Rohirrim will fly to our aid.

I think you mean Rohangolan.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
Caught up - Rohan is the best choice.

Recurring characters all the way!

GenHavoc
Jul 19, 2006

Vive L'Empreur!
Vive La Surcouf!

Grey Hunter posted:

Caught up - Rohan is the best choice.

Recurring characters all the way!

I was going to vote for the drunk (well one of them anyway), but I can't oppose the imperial croctopus overlord. Rohan.

Incy
May 30, 2006
for other Out
Zack. Rohan's story is done.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Looking at the map, it looks like the free State only has the one Lithium mine on their border, so it seem like one of their opening moves will be to try and move in on that. Seems like most of the Dictator's forces will be aligned against us as a result.


Since we know where we're based, we should get an idea of where our counterparts might be located - both our opponents and the Count's own forces. I'm guessing the Count will base his guys at Menongue, to cover his other flank from the air, with any support/training at Ngjiva in the rear. The Dictator's hired gun will likely be at that relatively central location, since that will allow them to cover either front as the situation permits.

The fact that most of these airports are civilian means that attacks on the ground are going to be very risky - while the Free State or Dictator will probably not be too squeamish about collateral damage, I imagine the Count will not be pleased - and it would undermine his local support. On the plus side, I suspect the other mercenary outfits are so coldblooded to risk that sort of thing - it'd be bad to business. So unless we really piss them off, we should probably expect any attacks on our base to come from the Dictator's own birds.

Our axis of attack is going to be moving up the coast on the mines and the capital, so we should plan for the uptick in threat that will result accordingly.

GenHavoc posted:

I was going to vote for the drunk (well one of them anyway), but I can't oppose the imperial croctopus overlord. Rohan.

Yeah, ifwhen we get our own bote, there's only one crocodile/octopus hybrid we can trust to command it.

Anta
Mar 5, 2007

What a nice day for a gassing
Rohan

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Rohan, for ruin and a red dawn!

Plane me as Sebmojangles.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

Yvonmukluk posted:

Yeah, ifwhen we get our own bote, there's only one crocodile/octopus hybrid we can trust to command it.

I also nominate myself as first bote commander!

To Davy Jone's locker!
Wait.....

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Zack

Condoleezza Nice!
Jan 4, 2010

Lite som Robin Hood
fast inte
Beguiler, if you get me shot down in Angola, I will strap an IED to your bunk bed.

Love from your gunner.


Also we need Zack.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Grey Hunter posted:

I also nominate myself as first bote commander!

To Davy Jone's locker!
Wait.....

Clearly Croctopus should be the official Goonbote Patch/Emblem.

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


Grey Hunter posted:

I also nominate myself as first bote commander!

To Davy Jone's locker!
Wait.....

This mans a professional. He'll make a great naval officer ifwhen we get a boat.

Rohan Chat

She'll base out of Lubango but will operate totally independent of us. Which means on mission day she'll fly one of a half dozen random missions. One might be AAW Patrol, while another might go and bomb a hospital.



Speaking of bombing inappropriate things. Our first wave of planes has landed at Lubango. The rest should arrive in about 12 hours. Once we've decided upon our operative it'll be mission time. Just to our north some Astros MLRS systems have been pushing hard against our ground troops. To give us a welcome they opened with an extra-large bombardment. Our boys on the ground are hurting. Bad. Further to the east the Angolan forces are moving in some updated T-55's. We're still waiting to hear who, and where, the Sultans First and Mitsubishi-Shengasae are. I have a hunch we'll discover once we're in the air. Aid convoys are moving about the countryside and could use some air cover.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Yooper posted:

This mans a professional. He'll make a great naval officer ifwhen we get a boat.

Rohan Chat

She'll base out of Lubango but will operate totally independent of us. Which means on mission day she'll fly one of a half dozen random missions. One might be AAW Patrol, while another might go and bomb a hospital.



Speaking of bombing inappropriate things. Our first wave of planes has landed at Lubango. The rest should arrive in about 12 hours. Once we've decided upon our operative it'll be mission time. Just to our north some Astros MLRS systems have been pushing hard against our ground troops. To give us a welcome they opened with an extra-large bombardment. Our boys on the ground are hurting. Bad. Further to the east the Angolan forces are moving in some updated T-55's. We're still waiting to hear who, and where, the Sultans First and Mitsubishi-Shengasae are. I have a hunch we'll discover once we're in the air. Aid convoys are moving about the countryside and could use some air cover.



Would it possible for us to run simultaneous ops if the situation permits it? Like how we did escorts and ground attack in Seafood Buffet & max Profits/Around the World? Seems like multitasking would be a good idea...as long as we don't get stretched too thin. Which is another point for Rohan, really - even if her missions are random, she'll be keeping up the pressure on the enemy (just as long she doesn't run off and start committing war crimes. :ohdear:)

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


Yvonmukluk posted:

Would it possible for us to run simultaneous ops if the situation permits it? Like how we did escorts and ground attack in Seafood Buffet & max Profits/Around the World? Seems like multitasking would be a good idea...as long as we don't get stretched too thin. Which is another point for Rohan, really - even if her missions are random, she'll be keeping up the pressure on the enemy (just as long she doesn't run off and start committing war crimes. :ohdear:)

Absolutely.

Right until the point I claw my eyes out from juggling timetables.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Footage has been found of the MLRS attack nearby, uploaded to YouTube by one of the government soldiers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bfU9zs4Qyk

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
Well, Tapco is already cozy in his Su-25, if there's a suicidal mission attaking MLRSs or T-55s to be had...

BY THE WAY! Does the game simulate artillery?

Quinntan
Sep 11, 2013
The MLRS strike sounds like a job for the Tornado boys. Send them in with their MW-1s and they'd massacre that mlrs battery.

Triple A
Jul 14, 2010

Your sword, sahib.

Quinntan posted:

The MLRS strike sounds like a job for the Tornado boys. Send them in with their MW-1s and they'd massacre that mlrs battery.

MW-1s are a bit too expensive and imprecise for this job. Give them some Rockeyes instead.

Geocities Homepage King
Nov 26, 2007

I have good news, and I have bad news.
Which do you want to hear first...?

Yooper posted:

This mans a professional. He'll make a great naval officer ifwhen we get a boat.

Rohan Chat

She'll base out of Lubango but will operate totally independent of us. Which means on mission day she'll fly one of a half dozen random missions. One might be AAW Patrol, while another might go and bomb a hospital.

If one of her missions turns out to be a crazy bombing of a civilian target or whatever would that be tied back to the Hired Goons?

Quinntan
Sep 11, 2013

Triple A posted:

MW-1s are a bit too expensive and imprecise for this job. Give them some Rockeyes instead.

They don't carry rockeyes, they carry the BL755 instead. I'm thinking not just of the launchers themselves but also all of the support vehicles too. The MW-1 has a ludicrous number of submunitions onboard, it's about 2500 or so. It's nuts.

On the other hand, the Tornado can carry four BL755s...

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Geocities Homepage King posted:

If one of her missions turns out to be a crazy bombing of a civilian target or whatever would that be tied back to the Hired Goons?

She'd literally be based out of the same airbase we are, so that might be a problem. Of course, if we make sure she's hired on as an independent subcontractor and not an employee we should in theory be able to wash her hands of her should the worst happen, just arrest her when she lands and hand her over to the appropriate policy. The fact she's flying her own jets (which are distinct from ours) means we should be able to protect ourselves from liability if the worst happens.

But frankly I think it's more likely she'll blow up military targets we maybe don't want her to and inflate our threat level as a result than commit literal warcrimes.

Maybe we should invest in a therapist to help her work through her issues in a healthy manner?

Condoleezza Nice!
Jan 4, 2010

Lite som Robin Hood
fast inte
You want to drop CLUSTER BOMBS in Angola. Yeah that's a real good way to appear as good people to the international community.

Yooper! Surely the good Count won't accept us turning his people into hamburger and dispensing basically land mines in a country that not too long ago already was littered with mines and unexploded ordnance! RIGHT?!?!?!

Quinntan
Sep 11, 2013

Condoleezza Nice! posted:

You want to drop CLUSTER BOMBS in Angola. Yeah that's a real good way to appear as good people to the international community.

Yooper! Surely the good Count won't accept us turning his people into hamburger and dispensing basically land mines in a country that not too long ago already was littered with mines and unexploded ordnance! RIGHT?!?!?!

We're providing future employment opportunities as bomb disposal officers.

Triple A
Jul 14, 2010

Your sword, sahib.

Condoleezza Nice! posted:

You want to drop CLUSTER BOMBS in Angola. Yeah that's a real good way to appear as good people to the international community.

Yooper! Surely the good Count won't accept us turning his people into hamburger and dispensing basically land mines in a country that not too long ago already was littered with mines and unexploded ordnance! RIGHT?!?!?!

Would you rather have those tanks and artillery turn his people into hamburger instead?

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

Condoleezza Nice! posted:

You want to drop CLUSTER BOMBS in Angola. Yeah that's a real good way to appear as good people to the international community.

Yooper! Surely the good Count won't accept us turning his people into hamburger and dispensing basically land mines in a country that not too long ago already was littered with mines and unexploded ordnance! RIGHT?!?!?!

Yeah maybe go easy on the cluster bombs with this one guys.

Mission proposal:

I think our first job is to secure the immediate area.

Part 1: CAS and elimination of enemy armor/artillery assets near Lubango.
-Frogfeet, Hawk 209, and maybe SK-60 or some phantoms attack enemy ground assets with 2 Meteor Gripens providing CAP. Could alternatively cheap out and use some Phantoms as AA cover.

Part 2: RADAR elimination (white arrows)
-2x Tornadoes and 2x Meteor Gripen on escort go after each radar array and wipe out the closest two with anti-radiation missiles. Could use our jammer here as well.



Reserve
-2 Gripen and 2-4 phantoms with AA loadouts on ready 5/15 and the S100 orbits our airbase providing sensor coverage.

Saros fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Apr 20, 2017

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Yeah a MLRS seems like the kind of thing our SK60s can put a dent in and I kinda love those derpy things now.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Saros posted:

Yeah maybe go easy on the cluster bombs with this one guys.

Mission proposal:

I think our first job is to secure the immediate area.

Part 1: CAS and elimination of enemy armor/artillery assets near Lubango.
-Frogfeet, Hawk 209, and maybe SK-60 or some phantoms attack enemy ground assets with 2 Meteor Gripens providing CAP.

Part 2: RADAR elimination (white arrows)
-2x Tornadoes and 2x Meteor Gripen on escort go after each radar array and wipe out the closest two with anti-radiation missiles. Could use our jammer here as well.

Reserve
-2 Gripen and 2-4 phantoms with AA loadouts on ready 5/15 and the S100 orbits our airbase providing sensor coverage.

This sounds like a good idea, but let's also see what the Count has to say. He's probably got a wider overview of the situation to give us.

I figure we hold off on using cluster munitions except in case of emergency. A lot of the Count's international support apparently comes from humanitarian grounds, so using those sorts of weapons should be a last resort.

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Loel
Jun 4, 2012

"For the Emperor."

There was a terrible noise.
There was a terrible silence.



Is capturing the MLRS an option?

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